Ecuador loses another Dhruv helo to crash

[Echo_419]

More than a dozen have crashed domestically and more would have crashed but the Dhruv fleet thankfully remains grounded most of the time.

Ecuador which operates several bigger helicopters and jets seems to have no problem with them

The Dhruv is a disaster

Please provide source for your baseless claims
@gslv mk3

 

[Assault Rifle]

@Etilla yes Emergency landing as pilots tried to land and failed to carry out proper rotor coordination

Also of the 180+ Dhruvs in Indian military and paramilitary Service there have been only 5 writeoffs (2 IAF, 2 Army 1 BSF) and last year maintenance command of IAF send commendations to HAL as Dhruv had better serviceability than Mi-17s in FY 2013-14.

 

[Blue_Eyes]

your points are valid about MIGs, but they don't apply to a low tech helicopter

lol, you guys need just a small excuse to propagate against us, don't you?
Why don't you accept that, HAL imports dhruv, is not digestible
the investigation is going on, how can you say that Dhruv has a problem, without any proof?

 

[Turingsage]

You can understand why HAL is so keen for dassault to take the fall for the shoddy crap that HAL produces.

 

[Etilla]

@Etilla yes Emergency landing as pilots tried to land and failed to carry out proper rotor coordination

Also of the 180+ Dhruvs in Indian military and paramilitary Service there have been only 5 writeoffs (2 IAF, 2 Army 1 BSF) and last year maintenance command of IAF send commendations to HAL as Dhruv had better serviceability than Mi-17s in FY 2013-14.

any source for your baseless claims?

Here is the video of the defective dhruv crashed

Dont blame pilots when fault lies with manufacturer

 

[TopCat]

Gareth Jennings, London and Oliver Shorvon, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly

27 January 2015

As the only export customer of the type, Ecuador has now lost four of its seven Dhruv helicopters to accidents. India, which manufactures and also operates the helicopter (pictured), has grounded the Dhruv on several occasions over safety concerns. Source: HAL

The Ecuadorian Air Force (Fuerza Aérea Ecuatoriana: FAE) lost a Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) Dhruv utility helicopter to a training accident in late January, the second to be lost this month and the fourth since deliveries began in 2009.

The accident, which is reported to have occurred on 27 January (the Ministry of Defence has yet to confirm it), happened near the town of Tena in the remote interior of the country.

According to the reports, there were no casualties among the four personnel on board.

Ecuador signed the agreement with HAL in 2008 for seven Dhruv helicopters at a cost of USD45 million. These were to be delivered in kit form and assembled in Ecuador, but this plan was later abandoned with the aircraft instead being manufactured in India.

In FAE service the Dhruv is operated by 2211 Combat Squadron, 22 Combat Wing (221 Combat Group), based at Simón Bolivar Airbase.

COMMENT
With this accident, the FAE has lost more than half of its Dhruv fleet in less than five years of operations. The first aircraft was lost on 28 October 2009, the second on 22 February 2014, the third on 13 January 2015, and the most recent reportedly on 27 January 2015. While at least one of these incidents has been attributed to pilot error, a loss rate of close to 60% is significant.

Dhruv crashes have not just been confined to Ecuador, the type's only export customer. India has also suffered multiple losses since introducing the type into service with its armed forces in 2002. Indeed, India has grounded its entire fleet on several occasions following crashes.

Whatever the findings of this latest accident turn out to be, the Dhruv cannot afford many more of these unfortunate incidents if future export sales are not to be adversely affected.

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Ecuador loses another Dhruv helo to crash - IHS Jane's 360

Ugly....

 

[Etilla]

Only 5 of those accidents were turned out to be fatal plus you are forgetting the fact that the Armed Forces operates more than 200 Dhruvs and only 5 of them crashed in the last 14 years(3 others crash landed and were later repaired by HAL) and mind it they are used extensively and not grounded most of the time as mentioned by you.So how come the E.A.F. lost 60% of their Dhriv fleet in a matter of 8 years!Although 3 of the crashes are still under investigation personally i think that either their pilot training or their maintenance is not upto the mark and hence the crashes.

Ecuador has grounded all the Dhruvs and is carrying out a full investigation

Ugly....

Designed by Germany

 

[xyxmt]

lol, you guys need just a small excuse to propagate against us, don't you?
Why don't you accept that, HAL imports dhruv, is not digestible
the investigation is going on, how can you say that Dhruv has a problem, without any proof?

we are not doing anything, we didn't not expose this news, 5 out of 7 had accidents. What do you want us to do applaud that at least 2 did not have any accidents?

Designed by Germany

damn, I was under the impression all Indian defense products were indigenous

 

[Etilla]

we are not doing anything, we didn't not expose this news, 5 out of 7 had accidents. What do you want us to do applaud that at least 2 did not have any accidents?



damn, I was under the impression all Indian defense products were indigenous

Nothing of that sort

Brahmos designed by Russia

Tejas designed by BAE and Dassault

Kolkata Class designed by Russia

Arihant class designed by Russia

 

[TopCat]

Ecuador has grounded all the Dhruvs and is carrying out a full investigation
Designed by Germany

Ugly german design sold to dumb Indians?

 

[Etilla]

Ugly german design sold to dumb Indians?

I don't know why you have to use vulgar terms please keep the thread clean

They are several nicknames to call you such as a beedee.

 

[Judge]

I don't know why you have to use vulgar terms please keep the thread clean

They are several nicknames to call you such as a beedee.

He is a jamaati. Thats what they are taught since birth - vulgar language. Pay no heed.

 

[Blue_Eyes]

we are not doing anything, we didn't not expose this news, 5 out of 7 had accidents. What do you want us to do applaud that at least 2 did not have any accidents?

does it say that dhruv has problems , anywhere in the news??

 

[Etilla]

does it say that dhruv has problems , anywhere in the news??

Cinco Dhruv auditados no contaban con sistemas técnicos - Política - Noticias | El Universo

 

[Assault Rifle]

@Etilla
source is Commodore Sanjeev Israr who is defence attache in Chile Embassy and coordinates with Ecuador AF.

Anyways the photo you posted is of the Jan 27 incident I was talking of the Jan 13 incident which was a emergency landing in a dam due to pilot error.

While the latest incidents are inder investigations EAF said the previous two crashes were due to human error.

La Hora Móvil
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Hal has delivered total of 181 Dhruvs to Indian military and paramilitary as of Jan 20 and there have five writeoffs the three crash landings have been repaired.

BUT most Importantly HAL Dhruvs record is much better than your Pak military’s record with Mushak, 9 mushaks have crashed since april 2010 and 8 were complete writeoffs.

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