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BEIJING: The US and China discussed trade and business concerns Thursday -- with currencies and property rights among the thorny issues on the agenda -- as the world's two biggest economies held wide-ranging annual talks.

"China and the United States represent the greatest economic alliance trading partnership in the history of humankind and it is only going to grow," US Secretary of State John Kerry told a meeting of bosses from top Chinese and American companies.

From small beginnings of about $2.5 billion in 1979 when formal diplomatic relations were established, annual trade between the two economic giants has now grown to a gargantuan $520 billion.

Direct foreign investment between the two has also ballooned, and last year for the first time the amount of investment flowing from China surpassed that from the United States.

"We want to do better," the top US diplomat said.

But there have been a series of US-China trade disputes, while the United States has long insisted that the Chinese yuan, or renminbi, is artificially undervalued.

While the US has not branded China a currency manipulator, which could entail sanctions, it has complained that the weak yuan gives China an unfair trade advantage.

Kerry also highlighted strains over protecting intellectual property as well as concerns over sharing information technology.

"We need to make sure we're protecting intellectual property rights, make sure we're creating transparency in the regulatory process, make sure we are raising the bar for everybody in terms of the standards by which we do business," Kerry said.

The CEOs of such companies as General Electric, Boeing, Fedex, Goldman Sachs and Silicon Valley Bank gathered for the working breakfast with counterparts from large Chinese firms including China State Construction Engineering Corporation, the Wanxiang Group, Dalian Wanda Group and the Shuanghui Group.

"Business is a backbone of the China-US economic relationship," said State Councillor Yang Jiechi, speaking at the meeting on the sidelines of a two-day annual Strategic and Economic Dialogue summit.

"Trade and investment between our business leaders, big businesses, not only brings goods and jobs to us but also mutual understanding and friendship among our peoples."

The top US trade envoy said earlier this week that the US wants China to break a logjam over a proposed World Trade Organization information technology pact.

China should show "real leadership" by helping to advance negotiations on expanding the WTO's Information Technology Agreement (ITA), US Trade Representative Michael Froman said.

Froman, who attended Thursday's breakfast pow-wow, would not comment on a Financial Times report that the standoff was over China's drive to exclude about 60 new product categories, including medical devices and next-generation silicon chips from the ITA.

But he suggested that if China showed more willingness to negotiate the ITA deal, it could help smooth the way to reach common ground on other troublesome issues.

US administration officials and lawmakers have repeatedly lambasted Beijing for failing to play by global rules, and the breakfast event was billed as a way for major companies from both nations to air difficulties and grievances they have encountered.

"It is important that these firms are able to participate in healthy competition -- on a level playing field -- that will produce benefits for both of our nations and the global economy," US Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew said.

Earlier this month the World Trade Organization called on China to make its trade policies more transparent amid a "striking" lack of clarity on its rules.

China, which recently become the largest trader in the 160-member group, has failed to live up to key transparency commitments it made when it joined the organisation in 2001, WTO members said.
 
But there have been a series of US-China trade disputes, while the United States has long insisted that the Chinese yuan, or renminbi, is artificially undervalued.

That's one of the reasons why they insist on using GDP (PPP) for China, because they believe that the Yuan is undervalued and thus our nominal GDP is vastly understated. :woot:

Anyway, I hope for business to continue showing healthy and stable growth.

In a globalized world, hoping for other countries to crash is not going to work. In order for us to continue our economic boom, we have to hope that others in the world will also take good care of their economy too. Otherwise it could end up hurting us as well, even a 1% difference in growth rates is a big deal for the Chinese people on the ground.
 
China always try to use "our great nation" "our giant" ...
Good luck to exaggerate your leverage, pretend to be equal to other greatness, giants ...

Actually, there's no famous China brands, China international corp, ... the famous thing is toxic Made-in-china items
 
China always try to use "our great nation" "our giant" ...
Good luck to exaggerate your leverage, pretend to be equal to other greatness, giants ...

Actually, there's no famous China brands, China international corp, ... the famous thing is toxic Made-in-china items

"China and the United States represent the greatest economic alliance trading partnership in the history of humankind and it is only going to grow," US Secretary of State John Kerry told a meeting of bosses from top Chinese and American companies.

When did Kerry become a Chinese?
 
China always try to use "our great nation" "our giant" ...
Good luck to exaggerate your leverage, pretend to be equal to other greatness, giants ...

Actually, there's no famous China brands, China international corp, ... the famous thing is toxic Made-in-china items

What, like this? :P

BBC News - Lenovo ousts HP as world's top PC maker

Companies like Lenovo and Haier are the number 1 in the world in their respective industries.

Or this?

The World’s Biggest Public Companies List - Forbes

The three largest companies in the world are all Chinese.

And we have only just started. The West has already had hundreds of years to build up their brands, we are only just starting. I can only imagine your heartburn when we really get down to work. :azn:
 
What, like this? :P

BBC News - Lenovo ousts HP as world's top PC maker

Companies like Lenovo and Haier are the number 1 in the world in their respective industries.

Or this?

The World’s Biggest Public Companies List - Forbes

The three largest companies in the world are all Chinese.

And we have only just started. The West has already had hundreds of years to build up their brands, we are only just starting. I can only imagine your heartburn when we really get down to work. :azn:

good luck ... as my previous posting ... calling yourself great, cannot make it's real.

When we hear that USA call themselves as great nation?
 
"China and the United States represent the greatest economic alliance trading partnership in the history of humankind and it is only going to grow," US Secretary of State John Kerry told a meeting of bosses from top Chinese and American companies.

When did Kerry become a Chinese?

bosses from top companies means anything ?
"great eco alliance" means no company

diplomat language of US better than what Mr. Yang Jiechi used to be criticized.
Even Vietnam really a poor country, but Mr. Kerry never used the word "poor" to us ...
But we know we are not great, but poor ... ( learn Xunzi )
 
Don't try to cover your low level comprehension and try to deviate my question.

American people John Kerry said that, Chinese didn't said that.

You are a large piece of shit.

You spent too much of "shit". that cause your language hazardous.
Find what Xi said, ( World big enough for two great nation".. and don't masturxxx with vision of diplomat language.

Chinese President Xi Jinping formally opened the annual talks Wednesday, saying quote, "The vast Pacific Ocean has ample space to accommodate our two great nations."
Look at the real facts.

I can no doubt call Japan as a great nation. Let find why ... Same to USA ...
 
My brother, could you please edit the last part of your post, as you may get an infraction from the mods. :)

Done! Haha, thanks for reminding me.

You spent too much of "shit". that cause your language hazardous.
Find what Xi said, ( World big enough for two great nation".. and don't masturxxx with vision of diplomat language.
Look at the real facts.

I can no doubt call Japan as a great nation. Let find why ... Same to USA ...

VN is the least nation that deserves respect. I can feel your "great" jealousy, this is VN people's mind. I don't mind calling JP and US great nations, and they deserve people's respect. When people make compliment to China, it proves our commitment to the world economy and peace, we deserve it. Now, VN people feel jealous about this, you did nothing help to the world, you keep invading China, this kind nation is the least to be respected, mark my word. You US daddy is giving you up, kid, US betrayed you, that's why you feel nervous. :omghaha:
 
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Done! Haha, thanks for reminding me.



VN is the least nation that deserves respect. I can feel your "great" jealousy, this is VN people's mind. I don't mind calling JP and US great nations, and they deserve people's respect. When people make compliment to China, it proves our commitment to the world economy and peace, we deserve it. Now, VN people feel jealous about this, you did nothing help to the world, you keep invading China, this kind nation is the least to be respected, mark my word. You US daddy is giving you up, kid, US betrayed you, that's why you feel nervous. :omghaha:

We are sympathetic with regular Chinese, North Korean people
 
good luck ... as my previous posting ... calling yourself great, cannot make it's real.

When we hear that USA call themselves as great nation?



If the president says they are the only ones to lead the world because no one else will. Doesn't that tell you how "great" they are?
Stick to the topic at hand and stop trolling, as nothing that you have said so far adds any value to this topic.

Last but not least, China is far greater than Vietnam, and that is enough for us. We need not say more.
 
We are sympathetic with regular Chinese, North Korean people

I feel sorry for short, narrow minded VN people.

I leave my words here, if North Korean opens and reforms, they are far more rich and prosprous than you LAZY guys, I am calling it now. A Viet, dare to look down upon Koreans?! Is this a joke? Piss and look at yourselves in the piss mirror, who the hell you are.


If the president says they are the only ones to lead the world because no one else will. Doesn't that tell you how "great" they are?
Stick to the topic at hand and stop trolling, as nothing that you have said so far adds any value to this topic.

Last but not least, China is far greater than Vietnam, and that is enough for us. We need not say more.

We don't need to compare ourselves with them.
 
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