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[FairAndUnbiased]

I honestly really doubt it.
Yeah, the US and Israel had their share of conflict, but I think Israel is 100% justified, the US is less so in many cases.

I really thank anyone that saved Jews during WW2, However the China of 1939-1945 is nothing like the China of 1948, and nothing like the China of today.

While the US and Israel did kill civilians, mostly in the form of mistakes, China has a much more systemic approach to it, against its own civilians.
It's such a shame though. Chinese people are smart and hard working, if China wasn't focused on maintaining its communist leadership that silences anyone criticizing it and on matters such as Taiwan and intervening into people's personal lives, China could have resolved many of its problems and get many of its enemies off its tail by peace alone and turned into a real ally of the west which it trades with so much, rather than a rival and a potential enemy.

How is it systemic? China kills less own citizens than US kills own citizens. 1000 US citizens are killed by state security forces every year. In China it is huge news if even 1 person is killed by police.

Why is it bad to silence critics? If you had the power to stop criticism wouldn't you use it?

BTW, the answer to that question is yes, you did.

 

[Imran Khan]

You don't get me. China isn't being hated for trying to be better than the west. It's being hated for its policies.
For its lack of freedom. Lack of empathy.

One thing that makes me and literally anyone hate it is that dog eating festival which is just horrible and portrays China in the worst way possible, but that's another story.

The west will always dominate because the west is a better place to live in. People are happier there. It will always be considered better.

All the relevant and ideologically opposite nations near you.
I was talking mostly about India, Japan, South Korea and Taiwan.

You think I'm a kid? lol.

Israel survived wars against overwhelming forces before US support.
It's gonna survive without them.

However the US is here to stay.

a kid can be physically and mentally too . you may be 60 years only physically but 6 years old kid mentally . as you claimed all of neighbors will go to war with china now tell me why nepal / north korea / russia /kyrgistan/mongolia /mayanmar /pakistan/tajikistan will go to war with china ???????

 

[Beny Karachun]

How is it systemic? China kills less own citizens than US kills own citizens. 1000 US citizens are killed by state security forces every year. In China it is huge news if even 1 person is killed by police.

Why is it bad to silence critics? If you had the power to stop criticism wouldn't you use it?

BTW, the answer to that question is yes, you did.

Have you checked Chinese execution statistics?

There's fates worse than death in China

You are way too optimistic about your country, Chinese government is not stupid, we would never put our bet on Israel, In China, since the time I started to have memory, this thought is always widely shared, Muslims can lose a hundred wars against Israel, but it doesn't matter to them, but Israel has to win every single war agaisnt Muslims, if Israel lost one, it'll be all over for the country. so the fate of this nation was already sealed, Chinese leaders are also Chinese people growing up in the influence of this consensus like everyone else in China, they'll never put their bet on Israel.

Then Israel will win every single time. We will fight for it.
You haven't seen real war since the Communist revolution. All you've seen are wars fought mostly by infantry against minor powers supported by far away western nations before they've upgraded their power projection.
Israeli wars are known for their brilliant tactics, strategies and acts of heroism.

We don't call them wars in our standard, you don't really want to bring a real war to you.

 

[Beny Karachun]

You know nothing about China, do you know how funny you sound? I live in both the west and China and I know how the life is in both places, do you? stop talking jokes and make a fool of yourself. You are just repeated those China bashing propaganda by the west which had been debunked hundreds of times already, it's not even worth refuting now.
Again, try to mess with China and see what will happen, you guys better get prepared to kiss goodbye to a place once called Israel.

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China has interest to gain a western population. But god forbid if they write something about Xijingping looking like a cartoon bear.

Israel has God, there can be 10 trillion of you, we will still win.

Anti Chinese propaganda? China literally has a department for propaganda, denying that many things in China are simply insane would be their work.

a kid can be physically and mentally too . you may be 60 years only physically but 6 years old kid mentally . as you claimed all of neighbors will go to war with china now tell me why nepal / north korea / russia /kyrgistan/mongolia /mayanmar /pakistan/tajikistan will go to war with china ???????

Except Russia all are irrelevant. You didn't get my point.

 

[SQ8]

You'll never win against the west if you choose a direct conflict. At best the west would be badly damaged, and Chinese government toppled.

You'll never win politically either. Not with your government.
Not a single western nation will trust you. In case of a war, all of your neighbors would wage war against you.

You know why? Because China seeks to put other countries under their own communist control.
And when people see that people in China are being sent into "re-education camps", have their organs harvested etc. they don't want that to happen to them either.

There's things I can't explain about Israel's military capabilities, just know that Israel has its own ways of balancing between our powers and those of much bigger nations, and I'm not talking about nuclear weapons.

Israel is actually an "ally" of China. Israel trained Chinese soldiers, sold China Python 3 missiles etc.
Israel imports from China are only smaller than the imports from the US, and China is the 4th largest importer of Israeli goods, only after Hong Kong, the UK and the US.
I heard Chinese people think fond of Jews as well. We aren't enemies in terms of our interests, however we cannot ignore that China (not the Chinese people) isn't good at all.

The Chinese don’t seek conflicts they cannot win since the Sino-Vietnam war much as Israel doesn’t do so either. They are similar to Israel in the sense that they would rather wage economic “conflict” to dominate the market and ensure the prosperity of their own people. That being said, even the current China focused cold war isn’t about a conflict of weapons versus a conflict of economics and influence over key resources.

That being said, it doesn’t matter whether China loses or not in an all out conflict as the repercussions of which will severely impact the world and especially western economies. No matter the few and far manufacturing alternatives being propped up in Vietnam and the far east they cannot match in equivalence the streamlined behemoth that is China.
At best there is focus on reducing Chinese influence and has had some successes and failures.

Israelis however should not talk about camps in any context be they reeducation or concentration ones regardless of the complex history behind them as the world’s largest one is called Gaza.

Until this issue is resolved (and ironically could have been decades ago if it was just Israelis and Palestinians involved and not their arab neighbors) the moral standing of Israel despite is generally decent inhabitants cannot be recognized - neither can for the Chinese in this matter due to other issues but the difference is that China has a greater influence(on that context which nation really has moral authority?? Swaziland?)

 

[Dalit]

China has interest to gain a western population. But god forbid if they write something about Xijingping looking like a cartoon bear.

Israel has God, there can be 10 trillion of you, we will still win.

Anti Chinese propaganda? China literally has a department for propaganda, denying that many things in China are simply insane would be their work.

Except Russia all are irrelevant. You didn't get my point.

Look who is here LOL

Israel has God LOL Since when did you start believing in God? Didn't God shun you guys after worshipping the calf?

You couldn't save Netanyahu. Israel is barely an ant. Don't point your fingers at China.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Have you checked Chinese execution statistics?

There's fates worse than death in China

We are silenced from criticizing you here so I just want to say, you are 10000000% right, great and just. Everybody fears and is awed by your amazing perfect divine presence.

 

[Beny Karachun]

The Chinese don’t seek conflicts they cannot win since the Sino-Vietnam war much as Israel doesn’t do so either. They are similar to Israel in the sense that they would rather wage economic “conflict” to dominate the market and ensure the prosperity of their own people. That being said, even the current China focused cold war isn’t about a conflict of weapons versus a conflict of economics and influence over key resources.

That being said, it doesn’t matter whether China loses or not in an all out conflict as the repercussions of which will severely impact the world and especially western economies. No matter the few and far manufacturing alternatives being propped up in Vietnam and the far east they cannot match in equivalence the streamlined behemoth that is China.
At best there is focus on reducing Chinese influence and has had some successes and failures.

Israelis however should not talk about camps in any context be they reeducation or concentration ones regardless of the complex history behind them as the world’s largest one is called Gaza.

Until this issue is resolved (and ironically could have been decades ago if it was just Israelis and Palestinians involved and not their arab neighbors) the moral standing of Israel despite is generally decent inhabitants cannot be recognized - neither can for the Chinese in this matter due to other issues but the difference is that China has a greater influence(on that context which nation really has moral authority?? Swaziland?)

Seems like China wants to change that strategy because for some reason they really want to conquer Taiwan.

Don't compare Israel and China. Gaza was a part of Israel, the Palestinians inside them rioted and wanted autonomy and we gave it to them. What did they do with it? Elected a terrorist group and sent countless of suicide bombers against Israel, launched tens of thousands of rockets at us. The least we can do is close them off and not let them into our territory (which isn't even done solely by Israel, but by Egypt as well, and actually there are thousands of Gazan Palestinians with businesses permits in Israel unfortunately).
We have enough justification to carpet bomb the living s*** out of Gaza yet we don't do it.



Meanwhile China simply begs for a minor justification to bomb the s*** out of Taiwan and conquer , is occupying Tibet, throws Uyghur Muslims into education camps etc.

If Taiwan so much as shot one rocket at China, China would full scale invade it and I doubt it will do the efforts Israel does to prevent civilian casualties.

 

[MultaniGuy]

You make an enemy out of them by bombing their city with passenger jets, what do you think is going to happen? Afghans should blame their leadership and taking Bin Laden $$$

It's like going up to a bear and poking him in the back.

It was never about Osama Bin Laden.

USA claims they killed him in 2011.

It called ulterior agendas by USA.

 

[Menace2Society]

It was never about Osama Bin Laden.

USA claims they killed him in 2011.

It called ulterior agendas by USA.

It's never about the individual, they went there for the group and also punish Afghans for supporting AQ.

It wasn't a US embassy in Kenya, for example

On August 7, 1998, nearly simultaneous bombs blew up in front of the American embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. Two hundred and twenty-four people died in the blasts, including 12 Americans, and more than 4,500 people were wounded.

These attacks were soon directly linked to al Qaeda. To date, more than 20 people have been charged in connection with the bombings. Several of these individuals—including Usama bin Laden—have been killed. Six are serving life sentences in U.S. prison, and a few others are awaiting trial.

They tolerated an attack abroad but Taliban did a Pearl Harbor, and we all know what happened to the Japanese so Afghanistan got off lightly.

 

[MultaniGuy]

It's never about the individual, they went there for the group and also punish Afghans for supporting AQ.

It wasn't a US embassy in Kenya, for example

On August 7, 1998, nearly simultaneous bombs blew up in front of the American embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. Two hundred and twenty-four people died in the blasts, including 12 Americans, and more than 4,500 people were wounded.

These attacks were soon directly linked to al Qaeda. To date, more than 20 people have been charged in connection with the bombings. Several of these individuals—including Usama bin Laden—have been killed. Six are serving life sentences in U.S. prison, and a few others are awaiting trial.

They tolerated an attack abroad but Taliban did a Pearl Harbor, and we all know what happened to the Japanese

9/11 was an inside job.

Afghan Taliban are back in power in Afghanistan.

It's never about the individual, they went there for the group and also punish Afghans for supporting AQ.

It wasn't a US embassy in Kenya, for example

On August 7, 1998, nearly simultaneous bombs blew up in front of the American embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. Two hundred and twenty-four people died in the blasts, including 12 Americans, and more than 4,500 people were wounded.

These attacks were soon directly linked to al Qaeda. To date, more than 20 people have been charged in connection with the bombings. Several of these individuals—including Usama bin Laden—have been killed. Six are serving life sentences in U.S. prison, and a few others are awaiting trial.

They tolerated an attack abroad but Taliban did a Pearl Harbor, and we all know what happened to the Japanese so Afghanistan got off lightly.

You actually believe the American narrative on 9/11.

Everyone in Saudi Arabia behind closed doors believe otherwise.

It's never about the individual, they went there for the group and also punish Afghans for supporting AQ.

It wasn't a US embassy in Kenya, for example

On August 7, 1998, nearly simultaneous bombs blew up in front of the American embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. Two hundred and twenty-four people died in the blasts, including 12 Americans, and more than 4,500 people were wounded.

These attacks were soon directly linked to al Qaeda. To date, more than 20 people have been charged in connection with the bombings. Several of these individuals—including Usama bin Laden—have been killed. Six are serving life sentences in U.S. prison, and a few others are awaiting trial.

They tolerated an attack abroad but Taliban did a Pearl Harbor, and we all know what happened to the Japanese so Afghanistan got off lightly.

Afghan Taliban asked for proof for OBL's involvement.

 

[SaadH]

America used ti be a bastion of democracy. Now each day its turning into a fascist state under the leadership of AIPAC.

That was never the case, US has from it's inception been a hegemonic, racist, settler colonial state that has used extreme violence and genocide to further it's strategic and imperial goals.

 

[Menace2Society]

9/11 was an inside job.

Afghan Taliban are back in power in Afghanistan.

You actually believe the American narrative on 9/11.

Everyone in Saudi Arabia behind closed doors believe otherwise.

Afghan Taliban asked for proof for OBL's involvement.

Sounds like conspiracies, I don't buy it. Also these theories were pushed to Muslims across the world after 9/11 and it has affected perceptions which Musharaf battled hard to reverse in Pakistan. I notice this "clouded judgement" when it comes to the chain of events to absolve themselves and do not understand when you pick a fight, the other guy will usually fight back, very immature. Pakistanis paid a $100 billion dollar price and still their people do not understand right from wrong and being confused about which side to pick.

Bin Laden was a billionaire and he had lots of $$$ to fuel his ultra Arab nationalist movement disguised as a "global Islamic movement" and for him to be seen as the glorious leader. That's why he was in Afghanistan during the soviet invasion, he had $$$ and a big ego. Yes he most likely colluded with CIA but they were supporting the Afghans during the Soviet invasion and they were in contact with everyone on ground. What he did after the war was over and when the americans left is him making independent decisions.

He had ulema on his payroll around the world and ran a printing press of propaganda to brainwash Muslims and "blur the lines"

Remember this in 93?

In February 26, 1993, a bomb exploded in a parking garage of the World Trade Center (WTC) in New York City. This event was the first indication for the Diplomatic Security Service (DSS) that terrorism was evolving from a regional phenomenon outside of the United States to a transnational phenomenon.

DSS was called to assist the New York Police Department and the FBI in the investigation, and helped to identify the Middle Eastern radical responsible for the attack. Although Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda had ties to the bombing, the connections would not become clear until 1996

So they attacked USA twice? If this had been the 50s, they would have nuked Afghanistan.

 

[pakpride00090]

9/11 was an inside job.

Afghan Taliban are back in power in Afghanistan.

You actually believe the American narrative on 9/11.

Everyone in Saudi Arabia behind closed doors believe otherwise.

Afghan Taliban asked for proof for OBL's involvement.

Sacrificing one man > millions dead , infrastructure destroyeed , country gone to shit.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Sacrificing one man > millions dead , infrastructure destroyeed , country gone to shit.

Thats why I say it was never about Osama Bin Laden.

USA has lied.

It was the Afghan Taliban they were after.