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Does New York Still Have a Future in Tech?

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Amazon might have been the center of a new tech ecosystem in Queens. Here’s what the city can do next.
By Enrico Moretti
Professor Moretti teaches economics at the University of California, Berkeley.

  • Amazon employs more than 45,000 people in Seattle, and has attracted other big employers to the city.CreditElaine Thompson/Associated Press
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Amazon employs more than 45,000 people in Seattle, and has attracted other big employers to the city.CreditCreditElaine Thompson/Associated Press
Amazon’s decision on Feb. 14 to cancel its plans in New York City was actually the second time that New York missed its chance to host Amazon headquarters. The first time was in 1994, and what happened then informs what might happen next.

It was the beginning of the internet era, and a 30-year-old Jeff Bezos was living in Manhattan, working for the investment bank D.E. Shaw on Wall Street. He had big plans for his new company, an online book retailer, but he wasn’t sure where to locate it. One thing was clear: New York City’s high-tech ecosystem — the engineers and programmers, the venture capitalists, the intellectual property lawyers, the vendors and service providers that specialized in this specific part of the industry — was too small and undeveloped for an internet start-up to thrive.

At that time, people who knew how to create commercial websites were still rare, and he found them in Seattle. Some of the best software engineers and programmers were concentrated there, along with venture capitalists who understood early the potential of the internet. The benefits for Seattle were even greater. Amazon now has more than 45,000 employees there.

But the impact of Amazon on the regional economy stretches far beyond the direct employment effect. Its presence helped create a new internet cluster in the region, which served as a magnet for innovative companies such as Tableau and Remitly, and other Silicon Valley giants such as Google, Apple, Facebook and Oracle, which have all opened large offices in Seattle.

This has enormous implications for the economic map of America. Expenditures on research and development and patenting activity are more geographically concentrated today than they were 30 years ago. This trend magnifies the differences between winners and losers among American communities.

Which brings us back to New York’s loss. Its regional economy, once dependent on finance, is finally beginning to diversify. But New York’s high-tech cluster is still small relative to its West Coast peers. In the past three years, tech jobs in San Francisco and San Jose have grown 13 percent and 12 percent, respectively — twice the rate for New York, which grew by only 6 percent.

The long-run cost of Amazon’s retreat will include not just thousands of good jobs but more critically, the forgone agglomeration benefits — the innovative employers that will not locate in New York.

This is a big loss. The tech sector has proved to be the most dynamic engine of earnings growth for American cities, significantly better than the financial sector. Over the past five years, average earnings in high tech in the 10 largest innovation clusters have grown by 18 percent, twice as fast as average earnings in financial services. It’s not that the high-tech sector will disappear from New York, of course, but in the coming years and decades its growth will undoubtedly suffer.

Since existing economic studies of agglomeration effects in American cities are typically based on many companies, not just Amazon, and many cities, not just New York, it is difficult to offer predictions of the exact magnitude of the effect. But based on a majority of the existing economic literature, it appears safe to say that the impact on the New York labor market will be noticeable.

What should New York do next? Because the region already has a large base of potential high-tech employees and an ability to attract more, subsidies are not necessarily the best strategy. It may be more effective in the long run to provide spaces for research and development, such as the Cornell Tech campus on Roosevelt Island, which was designed to attract graduate students with a strong interest in working for tech companies or starting their own. Fostering their creativity — and avoiding the bitter political infighting that scares away potential newcomers to the city — should be a top priority.

Enrico Moretti, a professor of economics at the University of California, Berkeley, is the author of “The New Geography of Jobs.”
 
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Just when I got in the mail campaigning for Amazon HQ in Queens the project is canned
 
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Not with twits like AOC you dont.

Just the other day I heard Cuomo bitching about the federal tax rebate ending (and new yorkers having to actually fork out seperately for their federal tax on top of the ridiculous high state tax). The high state tax is there for a reason morons, you keep voting degenecrat!
 
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Ha! Couldn't happen to a nicer State. Damn Yankees!! While my Virginia has its fair share of idiot Democrat politicians, it still has the remnants of conservative governance, such as right-to-work labor rules and healthy levels of public debt. Virginia is in position to become the leading tech center on the East Coast, ahead of Boston.
 
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Ha! Couldn't happen to a nicer State. Damn Yankees!! While my Virginia has its fair share of idiot Democrat politicians, it still has the remnants of conservative governance, such as right-to-work labor rules and healthy levels of public debt. Virginia is in position to become the leading tech center on the East Coast, ahead of Boston.

with the federal government around it is not going to happen in Virginia
why risk a cushy job with the feds and work on a startup ?
 
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with the federal government around it is not going to happen in Virginia
why risk a cushy job with the feds and work on a startup ?

It has already happened to some extent. AOL and several other internet startups began in NoVa in the 1990's. But I was referring to Amazon's HQ2 being located in Crystal City, VA, which will now be even more important since the ending of the NY Amazon adventure. Jobs with the Feds are one thing, but Fed contractors are another. There are many high tech contractors who supply the technical brains to the DoD, Homeland Security, NASA and other agencies from operations in the Virginia suburbs of DC. These contractors, in turn, spawn start-up minded people. Especially in the area of cyber-security the DC area has a lot of tech activity. And northern Virginia bases are preferred over Maryland, and DC, itself, because of a much more favorable business climate, friendlier individual tax burdens and better public schools.
 
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It has already happened to some extent. AOL and several other internet startups began in NoVa in the 1990's. But I was referring to Amazon's HQ2 being located in Crystal City, VA, which will now be even more important since the ending of the NY Amazon adventure. Jobs with the Feds are one thing, but Fed contractors are another. There are many high tech contractors who supply the technical brains to the DoD, Homeland Security, NASA and other agencies from operations in the Virginia suburbs of DC. These contractors, in turn, spawn start-up minded people. Especially in the area of cyber-security the DC area has a lot of tech activity. And northern Virginia bases are preferred over Maryland, and DC, itself, because of a much more favorable business climate, friendlier individual tax burdens and better public schools.

AOL did not end well. providing the government with tech services is one way. it has not translated into same type of silicon valley startups. In any case security seems like a nice area
 
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