Did the FO just announce Pakistan as a state sponsor of terrorism?

[janon]

Your article is three and half years old and like I said the organisation has no clout whatsoever.

The content of that article has not changed in those three years. The fellow is still free.

Again, please clarify what HUD is.

The first article of this thread is speaking about HuM and LeT. Of those, LeT is ostensibly banned by Pak, but HuM is not.

Indians can eat a dick.

We can, but we don't. Thanks for suggesting your culinary preferences though.
@Horus

 

[Cyberian]

Wow, a nation that has just democratically, under no force or coercion elected a Hindu Extremist Narendra Modi as their Prime Ministeri, has the audicity to point fingers at another nation.

Indians, apni auqat yaad rakho.

 

[janon]

Wow, a nation that has just democratically, under no force or coercion elected a Hindu Extremist Narendra Modi as their Prime Ministeri, has the audicity to point fingers at another nation.

Indians, apni auqat yaad rakho.

The article is from Pakistan. Open your eyes.

And BTW NM is not a hindu extremist. For you, just being hindu is extremism. But even when muslims use RPGs and rifles and kill people, you have to keep trying to figure out if they are the good ones or bad ones. Amusing.

 

[Cyberian]

The article is from Pakistan. Open your eyes.

And BTW NM is not a hindu extremist. For you, just being hindu is extremism. But even when muslims use RPGs and rifles and kill people, you have to keep trying to figure out if they are the good ones or bad ones. Amusing.

The source doesn't sound Pakistani to me.

 

[Areesh]

The article is from Pakistan. Open your eyes.

It is a random blog from Pakistan. Not some authoritative news source.

And BTW NM is not a hindu extremist

Yeah right.

 

[janon]

The source doesn't sound Pakistani to me.

It is a random blog from Pakistan. Not some authoritative news source.

What about this one, is this Pakistani enough?

'US terror sanctions list not binding on Pakistan' - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Same news, printed on the front page of dawn. Any more chicaneries to remain in denial?

 

[Areesh]

What about this one, is this Pakistani enough?

'US terror sanctions list not binding on Pakistan' - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Same news, printed on the front page of dawn. Any more chicaneries to remain in denial?

never denied the FO statement. I am just commenting on the blog post that this thread is created on. Dawn
doesn't have title like "Did the FO just announce Pakistan as a state sponsor of terrorism?" It is a blog post by some random blogger.

Accusing others of denial while thinking Modi is not an hindu extremist. Trademark hypocrisy of Indians on PDF and on internet. .

 

[halupridol]

@Irfan Baloch
n sir,u were claiming ,gud talib is dead talib.

 

[janon]

never denied the FO statement. I am just commenting on the blog post that this thread is created on. Dawn
doesn't have title like "Did the FO just announce Pakistan as a state sponsor of terrorism?" It is a blog post by some random blogger.

Accusing others of denial while thinking Modi is not an hindu extremist. Trademark hypocrisy of Indians on PDF and on internet. .

Well, he isn't. Do you see him mass murdering non hindus? (And no, he did not do so in Gujarat either - hindus and muslims killed each other.) Do you see him advocating jihad against non hindus? Do you see him taking swords and rifles to kill another sect, like so many of your countrymen do?

What does it take to be branded a hindu extremist, and what does it take to be branded an islamic extremist? Why are your standards for judging so different for the two?

The so called "hindu extremist" addressing Indian muslims in New York:

The "hindu extremist"'s comments about muslims:
Indian Muslims will live, die for India, says PM Narendra Modi | The Indian Express

Now let's look at some islamic extremists:

Kindergarten commandos:

I can post thousands of such images, and these are just from the land of the pure. Not considering all the islamic extremists to your west, in the birthplaces of islam.

Now tell me, do you see the difference between the so called "hindu extremist" and muslim extremists? Just being a devout hindu is being extremist for you. But even slaughterers are given the benefit of doubt by Pakistanis, and classified as "good islamists" and "bad islamists". Do you see "hindu extremists" going to kill infidels across the globe? Do yousee hindu lashkars training to kill non hindus in Europe or middle east? Do you see muslim extremists forming lashkars and mujahideens and jihading others? Do you see Modi or any "hindu" extremist trying to convert countries to hinduism by force? So tell me again, why do you not judge your own ilk by the same standards you judge others by? Who is living in comical denial?

@Irfan Baloch
n sir,u were claiming ,gud talib is dead talib.

But these are not tailbs, you see. These are pious islamic mujahids who only want to kill kafirs in India. And that is halal, and is encouraged and supported, as @Horus admitted earlier.

 

[halupridol]

@janon
one more reason for us to postpone talks
anywy its not 90's anymore,,lots have changed.
i am pretty confident taht we can beat them at there own game now.

@Syed.Ali.Haider
comments ?
ain't too sure about that renaissance of urs happening anytime soon in Pakistan.

 

[janon]

@janon
one more reason for us to postpone talks
anywy its not 90's anymore,,lots have changed.
i am pretty confident taht we can beat them at there own game.

That's right, it's not the 90s anymore. Any jihadi trying to enter India will die on the LoC, or within Kashmir in a few days. The average lifespan of Pakistani jihadis is too low once they come to India, to make a difference.

Why do you think Pakistanis often whine about the large number of security forces in Kashmir? (700,000 is what they tout, 65,000 is the real strength of the RR.) They know that with such a formidable and motivated CI grid in Kashmir, and with our excellent border management, their jihadis cannot cause terror in Kashmir anymore. That is why you hear so much bellyaching about the presence of security forces in the land they are trying to steal. Anyway, we know that their entire army and armour and artillery and aviation will not dare to take Kashmir from us. Let them keep sending these lashkar-e-this and lashkar-e-that or this-ul-mujahideen or that-ul-mujahideen every now and then. We know what to do.

 

[JonAsad]

There is a procedure at the United Nations to declare any person or organisation
a terrorist;

The first part of the statement is alright-
And the second part

however, the US’ decision to declare three Pakistani-based organisations
[as terror groups] does not apply to Pakistan

becomes relevant because we feel those procedures were not followed- so we will not accept the banning -

And maybe the FO failed to use proper english to make a statement- Blame Nawaz Shareef for assigning illitrate people at FO-

 

[karan.1970]

@janon

Thats a self serving argument. None of the Kashmiri organizations have fought against Pakistan. Our 'mess' has everything to do with Afghanistan wars than with Indian held Kashmir.

Histroy has proven that military occupations don't bring stability and peace. Until,Kashmir sees peace India would remain unstable, cynical and at a knife's edge. We can use pettey criminals to crash your stock markets and to hold world's second largest Army looking at each other's faces.

Our support for Kashmir cause shall continue till it sees its logical end.

And this mentality is what has led Pakistan to where it finds itself today. Sure, the ISI sponsored terrorists groups operating in Kashmir do not attack Pakistan. But the social fabric that has been damaged in Pakistan due to encouraging Islamic extremism to allow for creating such terror groups, first to fight in Afghanistan and then in India, has also resulted in the side effects of creating groups like TTP and LeJ that are creating mayhem across your country.

About history, well, Pakistan has been occupying Balochistan for decades. Hasn't it. ?

And about being unstable, if you call India as unstable, then by that definition Pakistan has already exploded. But I think you over estimate yourself

The first part of the statement is alright-
And the second part

becomes relevant because we feel those procedures were not followed- so we will not accept the banning -

And maybe the FO failed to use proper english to make a statement- Blame Nawaz Shareef for assigning illitrate people at FO-

2 of them are already declared as terrorist groups by UNSC years ago

 

[halupridol]

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[asq]

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Criticising US policy is a routine part of a Foreign Office Spokesperson’s job. Even when US and Pakistan are in agreement, as withdrones, it is important to keep up a facade of standing up to the unpopular global hegemon. Today, however, Foreign Office Spokesperson Tasnim Aslam either misspoke in a blunder of epic proportions, or announced to the world that Pakistan is a state sponsor of terrorism.

Earlier this week, the United States government announcedeconomic sanctions targeting funders of two jihadi militant groups: Lashkar-e-Taiba and Harkatul Mujahideen. Today, the Foreign Office responded by essentially announcing thatPakistan will not enforce the sanctions.

There is a procedure at the United Nations to declare any person or organisation
a terrorist; however, the US’ decision to declare three Pakistani-based organisations
[as terror groups] does not apply to Pakistan,”Foreign Office spokesperson
Tasneem Aslam told reporters at the weekly media briefing in Islamabad.​

This is a frighteningly bizarre statement for a number of reasons. To begin with,Lashkar-e-Taiba was termed a terrorist group by the UN in 2010.Harkatul Mujahideen was termed a terrorist group by the UNin 2011. Does the Foreign Office not know this? Why are they talking about this procedure when it has already been applied?

Most disturbingly, though, is the message that such a statement communicates both to terrorist groups and to the rest of the civilised world. In effect, the Foreign Office has just announced that Pakistan reserves the right to provide terrorist groups with economic sanctuary and to protect their funding.

This can only result in two possible outcomes, both of them devastatingly bad for Pakistan. One, terrorist groups will flock to Pakistan. Two, Pakistan will become increasingly isolated not only from the US but from critical countries like China and Russia that are already suffering from jihadi terrorist attacks and will see the government as siding with their enemies.

We may think that we can succeed while thumbing our nose at the US, but the Foreign Office’s statement today goes far beyond the usual pandering to anti-American elements. Whether intended or not, it will be heard as the government choosing to side with terrorists. And that is not something we can live with.

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That the reason Imran has been fighting to get rid of nincompoops who have no clue about anything except to collect money and deposit it in foriegn banks