Delhi, Mumbai all set to get their missile shields

[karan21]

I think whilst the tech of the BMD may be sound the logic behind it is flawed. As, as remarked by Ronald Reagan on the "star wars" project, it doesn't matter if you shout down 99% of the missiles if only 2-3 get past it is game over and the damage is done. No missile defence system on Earth will ever claim to have a 100% success rate so it is pointless to raise such units in the context of a nuclear threat. Not to mention that Pakistan has (for whatever g-d reason) the fastest growing nuclear stockpile on Earth.



This system is good at protecting from a rougue launch of 2-4 nuclear missles, and that too if they are only targeting Mumbai or Delhi, but for an all out Nuclear war this system and any other is peeing in the wind.

Prevention is better than cure my friend. This system will make Pakistanis think 1000 times before pressing the button. Moreover this will display Indian capability and mastery in this field to the world which in my opinion is more important. India needs to collaborate with others to develop an even more secure system.

 

[neehar]

what could be the range of this shield??anybody care to help me??

 

[arp2041]

I think whilst the tech of the BMD may be sound the logic behind it is flawed. As, as remarked by Ronald Reagan on the "star wars" project, it doesn't matter if you shout down 99% of the missiles if only 2-3 get past it is game over and the damage is done. No missile defence system on Earth will ever claim to have a 100% success rate so it is pointless to raise such units in the context of a nuclear threat. Not to mention that Pakistan has (for whatever g-d reason) the fastest growing nuclear stockpile on Earth.

This system is good at protecting from a rougue launch of 2-4 nuclear missles, and that too if they are only targeting Mumbai or Delhi, but for an all out Nuclear war this system and any other is peeing in the wind.

Mate, trust me, it's more of a Game of Economics than Game of Defence being played out here, Making of a BMD shield by India + Indo-US nuke deal have made Pakistan nervous & now they are expanding there nuke arsenal like no other nation, IMHO, it doesn't matter if a nation has 10 nukes or 1000s, as nuke weapons are more of a psychological weapons than weapon of actual use, but what this has done is that Pakistan is now spending close to $2 billion on it's nuclear arsenal every year (maintaining & making new), now every defence expenditure should have the support of Economy, but Pakistani economy can't support this massive expansion in it's nuclear weaponry, this was the same mistake that the USSR did (18000 nukes at it's peak).

 

[karan21]

Mate, trust me, it's more of a Game of Economics than Game of Defence being played out here, Making of a BMD shield by India + Indo-US nuke deal have made Pakistan nervous & now they are expanding there nuke arsenal like no other nation, IMHO, it doesn't matter if a nation has 10 nukes or 1000s, as nuke weapons are more of a psychological weapons than weapon of actual use, but what this has done is that Pakistan is now spending close to $2 billion on it's nuclear arsenal every year (maintaining & making new), now every defence expenditure should have the support of Economy, but Pakistani economy can't support this massive expansion in it's nuclear weaponry, this was the same mistake that the USSR did (18000 nukes at it's peak).

Lol dude I really don't think this is the case. Although this theory sounds funny.
yes you are right on the part that this is a psychological weapon more than a weapon of use. This shield has only one purpose to provide some security than no security. Indians are not worrying about whether it is 99% accurate or 100% or how much it hurts the Pakistani economy. 2 bill is not enough to bankrupt Pak anyways.

 

[neehar]

Mate, trust me, it's more of a Game of Economics than Game of Defence being played out here, Making of a BMD shield by India + Indo-US nuke deal have made Pakistan nervous & now they are expanding there nuke arsenal like no other nation, IMHO, it doesn't matter if a nation has 10 nukes or 1000s, as nuke weapons are more of a psychological weapons than weapon of actual use, but what this has done is that Pakistan is now spending close to $2 billion on it's nuclear arsenal every year (maintaining & making new), now every defence expenditure should have the support of Economy, but Pakistani economy can't support this massive expansion in it's nuclear weaponry, this was the same mistake that the USSR did (18000 nukes at it's peak).

exactly......

 

[Abingdonboy]

Mate, trust me, it's more of a Game of Economics than Game of Defence being played out here, Making of a BMD shield by India + Indo-US nuke deal have made Pakistan nervous & now they are expanding there nuke arsenal like no other nation, IMHO, it doesn't matter if a nation has 10 nukes or 1000s, as nuke weapons are more of a psychological weapons than weapon of actual use, but what this has done is that Pakistan is now spending close to $2 billion on it's nuclear arsenal every year (maintaining & making new), now every defence expenditure should have the support of Economy, but Pakistani economy can't support this massive expansion in it's nuclear weaponry, this was the same mistake that the USSR did (18000 nukes at it's peak).

I understand what you're saying but does Pakistan making more and more nukes and foregoing prosperity really make India safer? I'd argue not. A prosperous and stable Pakistan is what is preferred by India IMHO.


Not to mention with more nukes there is a growing likelihood of a disaster like rouge elements and the like. This could be catastrophic for India and the world.

 

[neehar]

Lol dude I really don't think this is the case. Although this theory sounds funny.
yes you are right on the part that this is a psychological weapon more than a weapon of use. This shield has only one purpose to provide some security than no security. Indians are not worrying about whether it is 99% accurate or 100% or how much it hurts the Pakistani economy. 2 bill is not enough to bankrupt Pak anyways.

its not just about this project...all the hype about our future wepons and all..saw the other thread about the moderanization of paf???its a well planned strategy

 

[arp2041]

I understand what you're saying but does Pakistan making more and more nukes and foregoing prosperity really make India safer? I'd argue not. A prosperous and stable Pakistan is what is preferred by India IMHO.

Not to mention with more nukes there is a growing likelihood of a disaster like rouge elements and the like. This could be catastrophic for India and the world.

I don't know, but this was what USSR did before 1991 & it resulted in end of Cold war

Lol dude I really don't think this is the case. Although this theory sounds funny.
yes you are right on the part that this is a psychological weapon more than a weapon of use. This shield has only one purpose to provide some security than no security. Indians are not worrying about whether it is 99% accurate or 100% or how much it hurts the Pakistani economy. 2 bill is not enough to bankrupt Pak anyways.

Dude before doing LOL on my post, think again, isn't this how cold war ended??? Not b'coz of war but pure Economics.

 

[neehar]

I understand what you're saying but does Pakistan making more and more nukes and foregoing prosperity really make India safer? I'd argue not. A prosperous and stable Pakistan is what is preferred by India IMHO.


Not to mention with more nukes there is a growing likelihood of a disaster like rouge elements and the like. This could be catastrophic for India and the world.

which is why the relations are getting smoother these years compared to a decade or 2..all these good willing gestures like mfn status to pakistan...bus service btw,pak india...increase of trade etc..but i guess delhi is also following other backup plan..just in case..i dont think even though pak has 300 nukes would make any diff to having a 30 of them

 

[neehar]

no need of these shields as the amount of HIGH SPEED AIR WINDS ARE BLOWN WHEN I POOOO IN FULL MOMMENTUM NO MISSILE CAN HIT ANY PART OF MY COUNTRY.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian...et-their-missile-shields-2.html#ixzz2El67YmlG

im sure they would call u when country needs ur services

 

[karan21]

no need of these shields as the amount of HIGH SPEED AIR WINDS ARE BLOWN WHEN I POOOO IN FULL MOMMENTUM NO MISSILE CAN HIT ANY PART OF MY COUNTRY.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian...et-their-missile-shields-2.html#ixzz2El67YmlG

Offer your services to your motherland Pakistan not to us.

 

[Laughing_soldier]

suman sharma does not know the difference between AAD and iron done. totally different system. iron done cannot intercept long range ballistic missiles like AAD. ID designed to counter artillery shells and rockets.

india can't even manufacture bullets, nevermind anti-missile defense system. China already sell our advanced air and missile defense system to Pakistan but india can't buy because india is our enemy.

shameless falseflag.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Dude before doing LOL on my post, think again, isn't this how cold war ended??? Not b'coz of war but pure Economics.

Sir you are correct but the case of the USSR s very different to the Pakistan of today. The USSR iddn't have a big brother like China today that is effectively propping up the Pakistani economy. The Chinese are going to go a long way to protect its India buffer. Not to mention the Pakistanis get, what, $1-2 BN a year in aid from the US so all told this $2 BN spent on nukes is not bleeding them enough to the extent we will see a collapse like USSR.

 

[Laughing_soldier]

what could be the range of this shield??anybody care to help me??

AAD can go upto 30 km above earth and PDV can go upto 150 altitude that is space.

its not just about this project...all the hype about our future wepons and all..saw the other thread about the moderanization of paf???its a well planned strategy

which hype and what PA is getting that even can threaten IAF and IN? IN will have better air wing than PAF in coming decade.

 

[arp2041]

Sir you are correct but the case of the USSR s very different to the Pakistan of today. The USSR iddn't have a big brother like China today that is effectively propping up the Pakistani economy. The Chinese are going to go a long way to protect its India buffer. Not to mention the Pakistanis get, what, $1-2 BN a year in aid from the US so all told this $2 BN spent on nukes is not bleeding them enough to the extent we will see a collapse like USSR.

Pls don't call me "sir" not atleast u

what i meant was that more economic troubles in Pakistan will force them to make friendly relations with India, as has been seen of late.