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Forget IMF, Pakistan Should Default

By MOSHARRAF ZAIDI
Tuesday, 28 October 2008.


ISLAMABAD, Pakistan—Pakistan is not going to default, because nobody will let it. That's too bad. Don't let the "economists" scare you. Default sounds like a dark, scary, doomsday scenario. Sovereign default sounds worse, like God's curse itself.


It is not.


"Sovereign" is the fancy term for country, used by the same loan sharks that milk pensioners to fatten their year-end bonuses (and who brought you Wall Street Meltdown 2008). Sovereign default is simply a country not making its loan repayments on time. It has happened to plenty of countries. They are all still around.

Ex-bankers and former IMF employees will never advise Pakistan to default because to do so would be counter-intuitive. It would be like expecting the PPP to undertake land reforms, or the Jamaat-e-Islami to be consistent about anything.


Advising Pakistan to default would represent an existential crisis worse than sovereign default. People would be forced to revisit the premise of their entire careers. We can't have that. So instead, we have experts from all around the world wringing their hands, loosening their ties and extolling the virtues of the "bitter pill" of yet another IMF program. The purpose? To avoid the "dreaded" default, at all costs.

Why is default such a "scary" thing, and why do countries go to extraordinary lengths to avoid default?



Countries try to avoid default for four reasons:

First, countries try to avoid default to save the country's reputation as a borrower in good standing—which means that they want to continue to borrow at rates that are favorable to them.

Second, countries try to avoid default to save their ability to participate in international trade freely—which means they fear having sanctions imposed on them for being poor managers of their affairs.

Third, countries try to avoid default to protect domestic banking and financial system—which means in essence that they want to protect the rich, because there aren't many poor folks with bank accounts.

And finally, the fourth reason countries try to avoid default is to save the government of the day from the disgrace of having defaulted.

Eduardo Borensztein and Ugo Panizza published an IMF working paper earlier this month that exposes one of the worst kept secrets in international development. They conclude that among all four of these reasons to avoid default, the most compelling, based on the evidence, is politics. They conclude that "The political consequences of a debt crisis seem to be particularly dire for incumbent governments and finance ministers".

In short, governments choose not to default because it is the politically expedient thing to do. The actual economic costs of defaulting, Borenzstein and Panizza conclude, are simply not that high. Moreover, another paper earlier this year (by yet another IMF economist, Ali Alichi), suggests that the only real reason that countries repay the sovereign debt that they owe is to continue to be able to borrow money.

In short, Pakistan is trying to avoid defaulting so that the PPP government can stay in power, and so that while it stays in power, it can continue to borrow money. The real question here is: where is all the money going and why does Pakistan need to keep borrowing it?

Most of the money is going to debt-servicing and to defense. The traditional response to unsustainable expenditure in Pakistan is to call for a cut in defense spending, while continuing to find a way to pay off Pakistan's loans. No one ever actually explains what they mean by cutting defense spending, which is why the conversation begins with a request to cut the defense budget, wanders into the patriotism of those demanding the cut, and ends with a straight-faced refusal.


No one expects Pakistan to compromise its national security, but it is not unreasonable to explore more efficient ways of securing the nation and the national interest. Far from a national conversation about spending priorities however, no one has gone so far as to even suggest a more traditional and hawkish view, for example, that the war on terror being waged by Pakistan's soldiers needs all the financing it can get, and that Pakistan's debtors will have to wait. An even more refreshing case to make would be to suggest that both debt servicing and national security are major drags on current and future generations, and that they represent much lower priorities than building infrastructure, fixing the police and delivering real education. What would a Pakistani government that was committed to those priorities look like?

For starters it would:

Stop hiring poorly qualified political workers to stack the deck for future election campaigns. Forget hiring another ten thousand jiyalas as teachers, to ruin another generation of children. Let's face it, Pakistan cannot grow teachers on trees, it doesn't have any teachers. It has to go out and hire the best Indonesian, Turkish, and Korean teachers. It has to bring them to Pakistan and put them to work. Pay them real salaries.

Hire the Emiratis that have designed Sheikh Mohammad's infrastructure revolution to do the same thing to Karachi.

Then go out and hire every willing CBM, FAST, GIKI, and IBA graduate out there, and make cops and municipal administrators out of them. Take ten of those supercops, give them Blackberrys, night-vision goggles, Humvees and some ammo and put them outside every school. Forget the entourages. Protect the schools.

Take the municipal administrators and tell them to get running water to those schools. If there's no well, and no groundwater, teach them how to negotiate deals, so they can buy truckloads of mineral water for the students, and their mothers. Get those kids and their families some clean water.

Make sure there are nurses and doctors at each school. Pay every Aga Khan University Medical School graduate twice what they would make as residents at Mount Sinai or Beth Israel.

Teach the kids their native languages, drop the grammatically dreadful and aesthetically murderous fake American accents and bring back the Pakistani accent to film, television, radio and to dinner parties.

That's the kind of expenditure that would explain indebting future generations of Pakistanis. It would explain deepening the pool of debt that Pakistan is drowning in. It would explain the helplessness currently being feigned by economic and political policy makers. In short, if Pakistan was borrowing money to pay for this kind of a social program, it would be hard to argue against it.

Instead, Pakistan is borrowing money to throw it into the same black hole that the money has been going into for at least a generation now. What has Pakistan got to show for almost forty years of sustained debt growth? Illiterate fanatics who can't pronounce the name of God are taking over Swat because the courts don't work. Drug lords and criminals posing as religious vigilantes are taking over NWFP because the cops don't work, can't work, and aren't allowed to work. The water in the taps all over the country is toxic. The teachers at the school can barely read. The ones that can spend more time in Lahore, Peshawar, Quetta and Karachi, at the civil secretariat looking for a transfer, than teaching their students whatever little they know. The students are at home watching Sanju Baba kill bad guys, and Jon Abraham seduce bad girls. The mullahs are making speeches they don't understand, to crowds that aren't listening, until they bring on the hate. Then everybody listens. The uncles and aunties think cheap Broadway rip-offs with racy costumes constitute a culture renaissance. Little girls in rural Pakistan meanwhile are being traded by remorseless jirgas, in the name of honor. The culture vultures hate Arabic, love Punjabi, and are addicted to broken English. The hawks want beef, the doves want ******. And bankers want to loan Pakistan more money to finance the whole rot all over again.

It's time for Pakistan to start spending its money on people servicing, instead of debt servicing. Bigger and more successful countries have done this before including Indonesia, Russia, and Argentina. Pakistan loves to ape other countries. Now is its chance. Time to default.
 
This guy seems to be selling stones showing off as gems. If only default was so painless.

First, countries try to avoid default to save the country's reputation as a borrower in good standing—which means that they want to continue to borrow at rates that are favorable to them.
not only the interests at which the govt borrows increase but also the rate at which normal companies which routinely take loans from outside will also have their rates increase. If normal commercial interest rates are around 10-20 ( WB gives them around 3-5, that is why every developing state runs after them), expect these after default to be around 30-50.

Second, countries try to avoid default to save their ability to participate in international trade freely—which means they fear having sanctions imposed on them for being poor managers of their affairs.

Only sanctions!! selling snake oil??
What about oil which you buy from gulf, needed even for defence?? Who will pay for the import of cell phones, industries spare parts? Without a big heavy industry, how will Pakistan have machinery, these imports will not accept Pak Rs. They will want it to be in dollars. If before these people allowed the companies to have time of say one month after the delivery of goods, now they will want it today and will only give item one month later.
Third, countries try to avoid default to protect domestic banking and financial system—which means in essence that they want to protect the rich, because there aren't many poor folks with bank accounts.
Oh!! really so if these people have no bank accounts they dont get affected. heard of inflation?? and 90% of banks would be broke, because who can pay 5000%interest rate- so govt would say you can get only x Rs of your own deposit from the banks.

The author gave the example of argentina. Does he even know the inflation of 5000% which was reached there, in short if poor people are getting affected with inflation of 20%, i.e. paying 25-30 instead of 20 for 1 kg of wheat, imagine paying 1000 for that. Yaa, poor folks dont have bank accounts but both of them use the same Pak Rs.

Argentine economic crisis (1999?2002) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And finally, the fourth reason countries try to avoid default is to save the government of the day from the disgrace of having defaulted.

I thought standing up to IMF was infact s*xy instead of bowing down and digging yourselves out of dirt.

If anyone is advising default, he should imagine pak GDP at 50% value at what is today after 3 years.

Oh and then the social unrest it causes, can Pakistan handle that? Imagine food riots where even middle class of today are involved.
 
There are some interesting ideas about how to manage the economy seen on this forum that challenge the established wisdom.

Innovative if nothing else. Let see if they are put into practice by people who qactually need to take decisions and not just open their mouths.
 
This guy seems to be selling stones showing off as gems. If only default was so painless.


not only the interests at which the govt borrows increase but also the rate at which normal companies which routinely take loans from outside will also have their rates increase. If normal commercial interest rates are around 10-20 ( WB gives them around 3-5, that is why every developing state runs after them), expect these after default to be around 30-50.



Only sanctions!! selling snake oil??
What about oil which you buy from gulf, needed even for defence?? Who will pay for the import of cell phones, industries spare parts? Without a big heavy industry, how will Pakistan have machinery, these imports will not accept Pak Rs. They will want it to be in dollars. If before these people allowed the companies to have time of say one month after the delivery of goods, now they will want it today and will only give item one month later.

Oh!! really so if these people have no bank accounts they dont get affected. heard of inflation?? and 90% of banks would be broke, because who can pay 5000%interest rate- so govt would say you can get only x Rs of your own deposit from the banks.

The author gave the example of argentina. Does he even know the inflation of 5000% which was reached there, in short if poor people are getting affected with inflation of 20%, i.e. paying 25-30 instead of 20 for 1 kg of wheat, imagine paying 1000 for that. Yaa, poor folks dont have bank accounts but both of them use the same Pak Rs.

Argentine economic crisis (1999?2002) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


I thought standing up to IMF was infact s*xy instead of bowing down and digging yourselves out of dirt.

If anyone is advising default, he should imagine pak GDP at 50% value at what is today after 3 years.

Oh and then the social unrest it causes, can Pakistan handle that? Imagine food riots where even middle class of today are involved.



Dude, you are an Indian right? Anyway, commin to your points, you took the writer wrong, he never said default was Painless, he said, a country can survive and we have examples which include indonesia, thailand etc.

All the points you raised, are gona happen even if Pakistan take IMF's loan, what do you think their structural adjustment policies gona do? - Increased food prices, increased interest rates, reduced government spending, no subsidies - all that is happening already in Pakistan. As for fuel, we have an oil rich neighbour Iran, which can prtty much fulfil the needs. On the other hand, the article provides a point, theres no point in borrowing when you have to do it again after sometime, the hole in the economy has to be stopped.
 
Dude, you are an Indian right? Anyway, commin to your points, you took the writer wrong, he never said default was Painless, he said, a country can survive and we have examples which include indonesia, thailand etc.

All the points you raised, are gona happen even if Pakistan take IMF's loan, what do you think their structural adjustment policies gona do? - Increased food prices, increased interest rates, reduced government spending, no subsidies - all that is happening already in Pakistan. As for fuel, we have an oil rich neighbour Iran, which can prtty much fulfil the needs. On the other hand, the article provides a point, theres no point in borrowing when you have to do it again after sometime, the hole in the economy has to be stopped.

What you are saying is relevant.

However the moot point is how long can & will it last ? Wherever it may be, it is only the poor ( read common) man who bears the burden of what his Govt does.

You & I can only pay our taxes regularly & hope that those in charge will also be doing their bit. Mistakes can happen once or`twice but not again & again. What does a common man plan on ? None of the old "pillars" of financial planning remain.

One Govt overspends or does not plan & leaves, ppl like u & me are left holding the baby.
 

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