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Decade of India dominance is changing... My Analysis

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I have a serious question brother.

Lots of people suddenly mouthing this positive narrative of things lookng up. @MastanKhan saab se I heard it first.

Do you guys think with Pakistan turning the corner, your society will become less radical and terror will lose oxygen and eventually die?

Serious question.

Note I've said nothing about us becoming friends. We can handle you as enemies. Always have, always will.


I think Malik Ishaq of Lej was a prime example of what room there is for his types in the new pakistan, The National Action Plan is kicking *** and looks like its only going to get worse for them .Reforms of extremist seminaries in the future are also needed. Security and a good Economy will transform society further. Problems between India and Pak revolve around Kashmir dispute, India had a tremendous opportunity to resolve it in Musharraf era but.....
 
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I think Malik Ishaq of Lej was a prime example of what room there is for his types in the new pakistan, The National Action

Plan is kicking *** and looks like its only going to get worse for them .Reforms of extremist seminaries in the future are also

needed. Security and a good Economy will transform society. Problems between India and Pak revolve around Kashmir

dispute, India had a tremendous opportunity to resolve it in Musharraf era but.....

That too is good to hear brother. A less radical Pakistan is better for us. It also means less radical Indian Muslims eventually.

About Kashmir, as I said, we can handle your overt enmity. That's not going to change. Not over the dead bodies of 1.25 billion Indians.
 
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Dude how is it going to contain our influence in CAR ??? We've our own land and sea routes that connects CAR.

Dude by having more influence there than the Indians in collusion with the chinese ofcourse. The CAR republics to the North have very easy access to Pak via China and by extension the Arabian Sea, once work on the Karakorum Highway is complete(almost there). Stability in Afghanistan will provide the biggest dividend.
 
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Dude by having more influence there than the Indians in collusion with the chinese ofcourse. The CAR republics to the North have very easy access to Pak via China and by extension the Arabian Sea, once work on the Karakorum Highway is complete(almost there). Stability in Afghanistan will provide the biggest dividend.

Dude so you're saying pakistan conneccting to the existing Chinese routes is going to bring more influence for pakistan???

There's another fact bro.. its Trade value.. whom do you think is going to import more goods from CAR?? Pakistan or India??? same the reason why our foriegn policy is smooth.. take for an example how we have better ties with both Iran and Israel.

And our Route too has access to the Arabian sea, the real winner is ofcourse CAR but its not going to balance any influence Bro

Plz tell through which route your directly connected with CAR...

Via Afghanistan and iran near future
 
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1- Pakistan is fast tracking development of CPEC, over half of Western route is already done.
2- Gawadar is going to connect with CPEC, this is going to be a game changer
3- TTP & BLA are on the decline, another bad news for India. A terrorism free Pakistan is not an ideal thing for India as we all know
4- Economy is slowly improving, foreign reserves are increasing.
5- Pakistan's gonna start a more active foreign policy over india's involvement in Baluchistan
6- Cricket is returning in Pakistan eventually


Good times ahead for Pakistan.. :D
 
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Guys please be better in response instead of thrahing my opinion...

My views about current scanrio change in region and specially Pakistan... We Pakistani should appreciate India and RAW for what they did better in their interest from around 2004 to 2014...

Indian govt somehow made Pakistan move back from half century old stand on Kashmir has jugular vein of Pakistan and made it stop funding and turning on Mujhaidin accross Kashmir thus giving Kashmir movement a big shock from which they have not recovered since then.... 2nd India took opportunity of us invasion of Afghanistan and made its presence in Pakistan backyard for which Pakistan was never prepared.... They funded from Afghanistan to Terrorist movements like BLA and TTP....which they deny but only stupid will not seize opportunity which India got in Afghanistan... Even Pakistan will do same if given same opportunity....

But since chakka Pervaiz Kayani has gone and General Raheel has taken cahrge of new COAS time is changing Pakistan not only win support of new Afghan govt but also started deceive Opertions against terrorism in Pakistan in all front from Karachi to Waziristan.... Pakistan is wining support of international community recent example is when India forward resolution of sanction on Pakistan which was scrapped in UN and also in FATF in which Pakistan is not a member.... Talks between Afghan govt and Taliban in which Pakistan is in center stage is giving india pain which they have expressed India is worried about its activities in Afghanistan which getting Limited day by day....

CPEC is another matter which India not liked and expressed its strong Criticism in Modi tour to china but China didn't give any response on it to India but expressed to Pakistani side that it will continue with CPEC....

So in end I can easily say that good times have come in Paksiatn which is giving india pain...

Would you believe me if i say it was actually the US who funded terrorism in Pakistan :D
 
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But since chakka Pervaiz Kayani has gone and General Raheel has taken cahrge of new COAS time is changing Pakistan not only win support of new Afghan govt but also started deceive Opertions against terrorism in Pakistan in all front from Karachi to Waziristan.... Pakistan is wining support of international community recent example is when India forward resolution of sanction on Pakistan which was scrapped in UN and also in FATF in which Pakistan is not a member.

So in end I can easily say that good times have come in Paksiatn which is giving india pain..
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You have the right logic but wrong details. Indian dominance HAS already changed. I've written about it in many places. The fact that the US, the Russians, the Chinese and soon the French and the Brits, all are dealing with Pakistan as a country without attachments to India, speaks volume.

India protested every deal, whether it was the US giving Pakistan advanced Cobras, or the Russians giving attack heli's or RD-93 engines (and now talks of SU-35), or the Chinese investing billions into the trade route, or the Italians and Germans sharing advanced tech of their UAV's. But India's protests, complaints and all, fell on def ears.

BUT, Gen. Raheel or the Pakistani military aren't responsible for such a change. They have done good on showing a serious commitment and resolve to root out the violent terrorist fractions from within Pakistan. But they are not what's changed the international image of Pakistan. That is hard, diplomatic work done by your civilian government. If they didn't establish priority based relationships with so many countries and started to do business with them, Pakistan would still be a Pakistan of the 2000's.

The foreign diplomatic strategy for Pakistan has worked well, in almost 3 years of civilian rule, Pakistan went from having JUST the US as the main partner in everything to, building multiple strategic partnerships. None of these are at the level of the US yet. But these are bearing fruit in their respective relationships. The billions of investment through the Chinese, the Russians selling weapons to Pakistan (this one by itself is HUGE), Pakistan denying support to the Saudi-Yemen conflict (another huge one), seriously speedy cooperation with Turkey, advanced weapon purchases from the US, are ALL seriously significant events. Pakistan's leadership has changed the way Pakistan used to be looked at. Now when countries say Pakistan, outside if the traditional image, they also see a country battling extremism and being successful at it, a fast growing economy with significant investment opportunities for everyone and a country with one of the largest young, talented male labor pool that can help many Western and Eastern countries in providing Technology, Management, Research, Medical, Accountancy and other services!!
 
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I personally feel India gave you guys 10 years of zero hostilities and the breathing space you need to take care of your terror torn land and societies (I stress the plural here).

Very few if any enemies would have allowed you the same, with a foot on your neck.
beg to disagree dear but I appreciate your personal sentiment.

India, like any worthy enemy seized the opportunity of further turmoil within Pakistan regardless which party was ruling India.
so whatever group showed promise was directly or indirectly funded and supported be it the TTP (unthinkable for pure Indian souls I know) or BLA or Sindhu Daish or groups in Karachi. and then time and again mobilising troops on our eastern borders (this is excluding the hostilities along the LoC and working boundary) while Americans were asking us to take away our forces from there and employ them against Taliban in tribal areas .
so, while your officials acknowledged the efforts of Pakistanis in decreasing the cross border infiltration into Kashmir, we got no such relief and instead got the Bollywood threats of imitating America by conducting strikes on Pakistan throughout the 10 years or using proxies against us.

personally I know you Indians are peace loving, tourist welcoming, western women friendly and yoga practising angels but
we see no change in your forces where apart from 2 division in the north entire infantry and armor divisions are deployed against Pakistan. and we draw strength from that just like we draw strength from the jingoistic bragging of Modi-fied India .. the more brazen and more animated India's "who is who" becomes the more it unites us and reminds us to stay on guard against you so thank you for uniting us , our liberals out of their innocence did manage to sell a peace loving and benevolent India to us but that bubble has been burst many times by Indian war cries

thanks
 
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beg to disagree dear but I appreciate your personal sentiment.

India, like any worthy enemy seized the opportunity of further turmoil within Pakistan regardless which party was ruling India.
so whatever group showed promise was directly or indirectly funded and supported be it the TTP (unthinkable for pure Indian souls I know) or BLA or Sindhu Daish or groups in Karachi. and then time and again mobilising troops on our eastern borders (this is excluding the hostilities along the LoC and working boundary) while Americans were asking us to take away our forces from there and employ them against Taliban in tribal areas .
so, while your officials acknowledged the efforts of Pakistanis in decreasing the cross border infiltration into Kashmir, we got no such relief and instead got the Bollywood threats of imitating America by conducting strikes on Pakistan throughout the 10 years or using proxies against us.

personally I know you Indians are peace loving, tourist welcoming, western women friendly and yoga practising angels but
we see no change in your forces where apart from 2 division in the north entire infantry and armor divisions are deployed against Pakistan. and we draw strength from that just like we draw strength from the jingoistic bragging of Modi-fied India .. the more brazen and more animated India's "who is who" becomes the more it unites us and reminds us to stay on guard against you so thank you for uniting us , our liberals out of their innocence did manage to sell a peace loving and benevolent India to us but that bubble has been burst many times by Indian war cries

thanks

Feeling is mutual.. let me assure you that !!
 
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Guys please be better in response instead of thrahing my opinion...

My views about current scanrio change in region and specially Pakistan... We Pakistani should appreciate India and RAW for what they did better in their interest from around 2004 to 2014...

Indian govt somehow made Pakistan move back from half century old stand on Kashmir has jugular vein of Pakistan and made it stop funding and turning on Mujhaidin accross Kashmir thus giving Kashmir movement a big shock from which they have not recovered since then.... 2nd India took opportunity of us invasion of Afghanistan and made its presence in Pakistan backyard for which Pakistan was never prepared.... They funded from Afghanistan to Terrorist movements like BLA and TTP....which they deny but only stupid will not seize opportunity which India got in Afghanistan... Even Pakistan will do same if given same opportunity....

But since chakka Pervaiz Kayani has gone and General Raheel has taken cahrge of new COAS time is changing Pakistan not only win support of new Afghan govt but also started deceive Opertions against terrorism in Pakistan in all front from Karachi to Waziristan.... Pakistan is wining support of international community recent example is when India forward resolution of sanction on Pakistan which was scrapped in UN and also in FATF in which Pakistan is not a member.... Talks between Afghan govt and Taliban in which Pakistan is in center stage is giving india pain which they have expressed India is worried about its activities in Afghanistan which getting Limited day by day....

CPEC is another matter which India not liked and expressed its strong Criticism in Modi tour to china but China didn't give any response on it to India but expressed to Pakistani side that it will continue with CPEC....

So in end I can easily say that good times have come in Paksiatn which is giving india pain...

Absolute BS we gave you peace n your eastern border so that you can take care of your western border
 
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That is hard, diplomatic work done by your civilian government. If they didn't establish priority based relationships with so many countries and started to do business with them, Pakistan would still be a Pakistan of the 2000's.
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This is something I agree with. I also hold the belief that regardless of dismal performance, PML-N has had a positive effect on our foreign relations by appointing the right guys for the role here.
 
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Better response then first one.... So you think India never supported TTP and BLA??? Tell me your feeling...

Pakistan have been safeguarded by ManMohan Singh govt in the past. I am not telling Indian agents arent in Afghanistan, but not to the level and operation as imagined by Pakistan.

If maybe BJP or some aggressive leader was at helm, I might have believed ur talk.

The title should be..

The decade of our enemy's state sponsored terrorism coming to an end..!!!

And yet, sadly no proof to showcase. Only bragging rights in domestic media :lol:
 
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