Death of Farsi language in Pakistan

[Maira La]

Either Farsi or Arabic should've been the way forward (ideally both as it would've enabled us to build bridges with both the Arab and Iran-Afghan world). Imagine the kind of weight our diplomats and leaders would've had if they could directly speak to these rulers in KSA, Jordan, Iran, Afghanistan, etc in the mother tongue (you don't build personal ties through interpreters).

That's crazy, especially Arabic as it's such a far away language.

You could have created a new language, combining Urdu and Farsi, with many words borrowed from Pashto, Punjabi, a new language unique to Pakistan which could let you culturally drift away from Ganges-sphere. You lost the opportunity sadly.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Too late for that now lol, especially in the information age.
But if a language were to be chosen in hindsight, it would've been better to use Punjabi but add Pashto/Sindhi/Baloch/Dardic/Hindi words.

I get where you're coming from, but avoiding regional-centricity (e.g., centering on Punjab or otherwise) was a necessity. The national language had to be different for everyone so that the pain of deprioritizing their local language was felt across the board. The choice was between Urdu, Farsi and Arabic.

That's crazy, especially Arabic as it's such a far away language.

You could have created a new language, combining Urdu and Farsi, with many words borrowed from Pashto, Punjabi, a new language unique to Pakistan which could let you culturally drift away from Ganges-sphere. You lost the opportunity sadly.

Arabic was doable as every Muslim in South Asia will have learned the script (by reading Qur'an). Granted, it would take 1-2 generations to fully transition over. I know folks will bring up the "Bakistani" thing, but to be honest, no one was stopping us from adding alphabets to the secular Arabic script. It just would've become the Pakistani Arabic or Indus Arabic script.

PS: can you imagine this guy speaking Farsi? rofl. we missed out guys, we missed out.

 

[Itachi]

What does modern day Pakistan has to do with fire worshipper's language?

It's also the language of much of history's well known Muslims who pushed the boundaries of science, astronomy, mathematics and more...

 

[Chacha_Facebooka]

Persian influence in Urdu is huge and even the national anthem of Pakistan is in Persian. in fact, even Pakistan, the name, is Persian in origin. It should be made the second language in Pakistan, after Urdu.

The point of a language is a communication. Mother tongue is useful because you can talk to people in your own province. Urdu is useful because you can talk to people in other provinces plus India. English is useful because you can talk to the world(better learned when needed). Barely anyone speaks Persian in Pakistan, therefore it has no utility.
IMO, all languages except mother tongue + urdu need to go from primary education.

 

[fitpOsitive]

We are that herd of sheep who has no idea where it is heading to. And anyone can lead us anywhere. This happens when injustice is prevalent in a society, and people are more focused on gathering, rather than becoming someone better.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

What does modern day Pakistan has to do with fire worshipper's language?

Your comment here exemplifies idiocy, I guess Urdu is a Hindu language.

As to what Farsi has to do with Pakistan; Farsi was the lingua franca of modern-day Pakistan for over 600 years, while Urdu has been the lingua franca of modern-day Pakistan beginning in the 1920's-1930's when the British enforced it. Even our most revered Urdu poets such as Allama Iqbal composed poetry mostly in Farsi.

 

[jupiter2007]

In 50 years, it'll be the "Death of Urdu in Pakistan". As either Chinese or/& English fully replace Urdu unless something's done. Before that, the regional languages like Punjabi, Sindhi etc will go extinct...


New research says that even adults can pick up new languages, albeit not as fast as kids. But it's still doable.

Establishment has killed Urdu and pushed Punjabi in the mainstream media. IK must protect Urdu in his universal education program.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Establishment has killed Urdu and pushed Punjabi in the mainstream media. IK must protect Urdu in his universal education program.

It's the opposite.

 

[jupiter2007]

It's the opposite.

it’s pushed so hard that even Pakhtuns are force to speak Punjabi, other day I saw an Arab speaking Punjabi.

 

[flameboard]

Multilingualism will only improve opportunities for Pakistan. Many influential Europeans speak multiple languages to people from neighbouring countries.

if Farsi would be an easily accessible language it would may open opportunities for citizens in Iran, and Central Asia.

I remember reading that Farsi was purposefully pushed out from South Asia by the British for colonial interests.

I saw a Lahore tourism YouTube video where the guide was showing off that his family had retained Farsi speaking ability from pre-colonial times. I think he also said there were others like that in Lahore

 

[crankthatskunk]

I can understand Persian 100%.
I can speak, if push comes to shove.

 

[Itachi]

Establishment has killed Urdu and pushed Punjabi in the mainstream media. IK must protect Urdu in his universal education program.

Both Urdu and Punjabi are being killed...

There's so much English being used in movies and dramas, it's concerning. Not only should Urdu be revived but also the regional languages.

Regional languages will help a lot in the Intelligence community also. Japan wasn't able to decipher US code because it was transmitted in some Native American language (of which there are a couple dozen).

 

[jupiter2007]

Both Urdu and Punjabi are being killed...

There's so much English being used in movies and dramas, it's concerning. Not only should Urdu be revived but also the regional languages.

Regional languages will help a lot in the Intelligence community also. Japan wasn't able to decipher US code because it was transmitted in some Native American language (of which there are a couple dozen).

We have regional radio stations and TV channels. Raginal languages should be promoted on regional level, not on main stream media. Regardless of what % of people in Pakistan speak Urdu, Pakistan’s National language is Urdu so it should be promoted In mainstream media.

 

[ARMalik]

Persian influence in Urdu is huge and even the national anthem of Pakistan is in Persian.. in fact, even Pakistan, the name, is Persian in origin. It should be made the second language in Pakistan, after Urdu.

Actually Urdu is spoken in Iranian Baluchistan as well. So Why don't you fellows make Urdu compulsory as a second language for your kids?? Or such lectures are for other countries only?

 

[Maira La]

Actually Urdu is spoken in Iranian Baluchistan as well. So Why don't you fellows make Urdu compulsory as a second language for your kids?? Or such lectures are for other countries only?

Makes no sense for Iran, they have no history with Urdu. Even Pakistan does not have much history with Urdu. It's a language developed by North Indian Muslim poets and writers over centuries in and around Delhi. A beautiful language nevertheless.