Dear chinese and the other friends.

[revu]

From 1945, after WWII, France back to Vietnam. And for International, Vietnam still the colonized country until Frank Control. And Paracel and Spraty had been under control of France colonized until 1954.

That also means that Vietnam gov at that time(france) didn't raise any dissent toward china claim(eleven n nine dots), and that lead to acquiescence.

The letter of Phan Van Dong (1958) don't said clealy that he accepted China to managed those Island. It's letter and not have value like agreement or contract. Even It's true, DRV is not the Gov who managed those Island at the moment, it was illegal document.

If he was at that time a government official, his letter had value.

Anyway thanks for your answer.

 

[vpeople]

Please don't post Vietnamese please. Please calm down. We have our tatic (Giờ mình có sẵn mấy post rồi, cứ trang nào mới là post lại cho đến thằng lúc thằng nào trả lời tử tế thì nói tử tế, thằng nào post lung tung đừng trả lời, cứ post bằng chứng lại thôi, đảm bảo bằng chứng luôn ở trang đầu cho mọi người thấy)

Tao nóng mày dữ lắm rồi đó thằng chó. Mày thử đi, VN đào sẵn hố rồi đợi mày

 

[NonLa]

It's obvious for you to defend your country no matter it's right or wrong right ??? I think it's impartial for me to say anything about my country that's why I want a third person to judge the problem regarding South CHina Sea.

Beside China, is there any other country agrees that %80 of South China Sea belongs to China ???? I don't think so. On the other hand, there are countries think that China claims that %80 of South China Sea belongs to CHina is rediculous.

China was making a solution to counter against the provocative act.

You drilled the oil in the disputed territorial waters was definitely a provocative act.

 

[vpeople]

Yes, but the true is your claim but have no exercise at this time. France Indochina who exercised sovereignty at this time can reply or can not. It's not important because the true is he was exercising.

Yes, China can considered the letter as a evidence. But it's week evidence in compare of what Vietnam have.

But do you think your China very smart? and she acted dirty way. China always describe Vietnam is traitor or something like that.
But reality is China who gave one hand supported Viet Nam and other hand hold a knife.
In 1974, China easily turned-face to hand-shack with America, you known at this time America and Vietnam is enemy. In General, if Vietnam and China was brother at this time, China was traitor, but she lied to Chinese that Vietnam is traitor.
Same at today, China is the one who threaten Vietnam in SCS, but she lie to Chinese that Vietnam want a war.

That also means that Vietnam gov at that time(france) didn't raise any dissent toward china claim(eleven n nine dots), and that lead to acquiescence.

If he was at that time a government official, his letter had value.

Anyway thanks for your answer.

 

[NonLa]

Vietnam didn't raise any dissent didn't mean that Vietnam accepted CHina claim(eleven and nine dots) right????

That also means that Vietnam gov at that time(france) didn't raise any dissent toward china claim(eleven n nine dots), and that lead to acquiescence.

 

[duytim]

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[vpeople]

I have one question

what is PLA doing in Kashmir ?

You better don't ask off-topic question here, friend. If you can please delete your post because it will lead the topic to other problem.

 

[revu]

Vietnam didn't raise any dissent didn't mean that Vietnam accepted CHina claim(eleven and nine dots) right????

Yes, but it could also be interpreted that Vietnam agreed, don't you think.
U know that this problem can easily be solved through negotiation and discussion. So you should tell your government to stop any activity in the disputed area and back to the table to start the discussion to solve this dispute. Not by showing muscles.

 

[vpeople]

Yes, but it could also be interpreted that Vietnam agreed, don't you think.
U know that this problem can easily be solved through negotiation and discussion. So you should tell your government to stop any activity in the disputed area and back to the table to start the discussion to solve this dispute. Not by showing muscles.

Who act weird?

Paracel and Spratly belong to Vietnam. It's unchanged true.

But at this moment, follow DOC we don't do any action near Paracel and Spartly because we try dialogue.

Assumption that China can claim Paracel and Spratly, she can't claim total 200 miles from those Island. Because EEZ of Paracel and Spratly is cross-section with Vietnam EEZ. Normally, It's get center line from Island to Land to separate EEZ.

And now Vietnam only harvest our oil at point in our EEZ from our land (beach) to the center line. It's totally own. Please see the map.
How far from the position that China threat our ship to Paracel and Spratly? how far to Vietnam land and China land?
Everything is clear but brainwasher Chinese in the forum still try to say lie.
They said lie that Vietname threaten China. They said lie that Vietnam want war. They said lie that Vietnam dispute China and more...
And they've been proud to be liar.

 

[DongDaHill]

My English is not that good, but I will make sure that you can understand what I'm talking about.

My Pakistan friends, please do not get involved in, your friendship should not be broken for the conflict between China and Vietnam. And please, the communist government is one thing and China is another. Chinese love China, but not the government or the party.

Americans, we should have been good partners, but we are both more preferable to take the other country as a enemy for some reasons, mainly historically and politically. No one likes the communist party of China, but there is no position for you to make any comment on it.

Ah, it's time for our little friends from the little country, Vietnam. Firstly, please do not forget the history that Vietnam had been a part of China for approximately 1,000 years, after which it was a longer period that Vietnam was China's denpendency. Vietnam was similar to China than any other countries, even than Korean and Japan, both on culture and system before we lost you. So, be in your suitable position, especially in nowadays. Be clear, Vietnam is even weaker than any one single province of China. By what kind of power can you compete with us? You call some pieces of your broken wood which are floating on the sea as NAVY? Do you know why we are stll waiting? An excuse. An excuse with which we can destroy your little poor country AGAIN.

You should learn more about the History of China - Vietnam Wars ! Ur country can will first by ur over number of troops but VNese have never surrender before we kicked ur 4$$ out of VN's territory!

In the over 2000 years, VietNam has to against Foreign Invader in EVERY CENTURY and we always ready to burry any invader as we did in the past !

 

[xdrive]

Please, you're living in Australia (or claiming as such with the flags). The Aussies would speak much better English than what you're showing here!

Yeh davidzf516 isn't Australian. It's pretty obvious.

 

[hoangsa_truongsa_of_VN]

Admin

you have deleted so many our topic

That is the whole our effort, why would you delete it?

You Do not Respect us, please open all the topic is deleted, to let the world know, what's really going

 

[NiceGuy]

Admin

you have deleted so many our topic

That is the whole our effort, why would you delete it?

You Do not Respect us, please open all the topic is deleted, to let the world know, what's really going

Stop spamming in many thread Binhminh02 , you're making a mess here ! complainning won't help if you keep spamming like that !

 

[hoangsa_truongsa_of_VN]

Stop spamming in many thread Binhminh02 , you're making a mess here ! complainning won't help if you keep spamming like that !

ok, thanks my friend

 

[gpit]

Who act weird?

Paracel and Spratly belong to Vietnam. It's unchanged true.

But at this moment, follow DOC we don't do any action near Paracel and Spartly because we try dialogue.

Assumption that China can claim Paracel and Spratly, she can't claim total 200 miles from those Island. Because EEZ of Paracel and Spratly is cross-section with Vietnam EEZ. Normally, It's get center line from Island to Land to separate EEZ.

And now Vietnam only harvest our oil at point in our EEZ from our land (beach) to the center line. It's totally own. Please see the map.
How far from the position that China threat our ship to Paracel and Spratly? how far to Vietnam land and China land?
Everything is clear but brainwasher Chinese in the forum still try to say lie.
They said lie that Vietname threaten China. They said lie that Vietnam want war. They said lie that Vietnam dispute China and more...
And they've been proud to be liar.

Unless your government is dishonesty, Vietnam already recognized sovereignty of China over the islands. Why don't you read your earlier textbook and figure it out whether you are a ingrate or not.

Vietnamese Recognition and Support for China's Sovereignty Over Spratly Islands and Paracel Islands Prior to 1975

* - Prior to 1975, Vietnam had, in explicit terms, recognized China's territorial integrity and sovereignty over the Nansha Islands.

* - Vietnam acknowledged the Nansha Islands as being China's territory in its world maps published in 1960 and 1972 as well as its textbooks published in 1974.

* - Vice Foreign Minister Dung Van Khiem of the Democratic Republic of Viet Nam received Mr. Li Zhimin, charge d'affaires ad interim of the Chinese Embassy in Viet Nam and told him that "according to Vietnamese data, the Xisha and Nansha Islands are historically part of Chinese territory." Mr. Le Doc, Acting Director of the Asian Department of the Vietnamese Foreign Ministry, who was present then, added that "judging from history, these islands were already part of China at the time of the Song Dynasty(960-1279, A.D.)."

* - Nhan Dan of Viet Nam reported in great detail on September 6, 1958 the Chinese Government's Declaration of September 4, 1958 that the breadth of the territorial sea of the People's Republic of China should be 12 nautical miles and that this provision should apply to all territories of the People's Republic of China, including all islands on the South China Sea. On September 14 the same year, Premier Pham Van Dong of the Vietnamese Government solemnly stated in his note to Premier Zhou Enlai that Viet Nam "recognizes and supports the Declaration of the Government of the People's Republic of China on China's territorial sea."

* - It is stated in the lesson The People's Republic of China of a standard Vietnamese school textbook on geography published in 1974 that the islands from the Nansha and Xisha Islands to Hainan Island and Taiwan constitute a great wall for the defense of the mainland of China.

Spratlys - Nansha Islands of China

In 1958, the People's Republic of China issued a declaration defining its territorial waters which encompassed the Spratly and Paracel Islands. North Vietnam's prime minister, Pham Van Dong, sent a diplomatic note to Zhou Enlai, stating that "The Government of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam respects this decision." The diplomatic note was written on September 14 and was publicized on Nhan Dan newspaper(Vietnam) on September 22, 1958.

The content of Pham Van Dong's diplomatic note to Premier Zhou Enlai is as follows:

"Comrade Prime Minister,

We have the honour to bring to your knowledge that the Government of the DRVN recognizes and supports the declaration dated 4th September, 1958 of the Government of the PRO fixing the width of the Chinese territorial waters. The Government of the DRVN respects this decision and will give instructions to its State bodies to respect the 12-mile width of the territorial waters of China in all their relations in the maritime field with the PRC. I address to you, comrade Prime Minister, the assurance of my distinguished consideration".
File:1958 diplomatic note from phamvandong to zhouenlai.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia