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Details of a new proposed deal between the Pakistan Army and Qatar Government

The federal cabinet in its last week meeting presided over by Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani was said to have been given the secret details of a new proposed deal between the Pakistan Army and Qatar Government for deputation of unknown number of soldiers with the Qatar Amiri Guard.This new deal between Qatar and Pakistan — to be inked soon after getting the required nod from the cabinet — would be effective for five years, and may be renewed, as and when both the parties agree. But this agreement can also be terminated on a six-month notice from any of the two parties — Pakistan and Qatar.Under this new deal, the Pakistani soldiers would be required to wear the uniform of Qatar Army as their salaries and other expenditures would be paid by the host government during the period of stay for two years.The details of this agreement were placed before the cabinet in its meeting on Wednesday by Secretary Ministry of Defence Lt Gen (retd) Syed Athar Ali.

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The cabinet was requested to allow the Defence Ministry to start negotiations for the deal to be inked soon between the two countries. The cabinet was informed that the purpose of this agreement was to enhance and strengthen the existing bilateral relationship through defence cooperation between the two countries. DG ISPR Major General Athar said he would be required to consult the concerned branch before making any comment on this development.According to the details placed before the cabinet, the Government of Pakistan will provide specialized officers, technicians and other military personnel to work for Qatar Amiri Guard in various military domains such as equipment, arms maintenance and ammunition.The officers to be sent there would be selected by the GHQ according to the ranks, profession, qualifications and physical fitness required by the Qatar government. The Qatar government would also have the right to conduct a medical examination of deputationists within a month from the date of arrival in Qatar.

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The soldiers would be deputed there for a period of two years and may be extended by one year at the request of Qatar government and with the approval of GHQ. The deputations would be subject to the rules, and orders applicable in the Amiri Guard with regards to the rank hierarchy, military orders and discipline. The deputationists shall carry out the orders and instructions issued by the commander of the Amiri Guard or his deputy or their immediate commanders in accordance with the provisions of this agreement.The Qatar government will pay salaries to the deputationist as per the salary scale of the Amiri Guard and the deputationists’ salary will start with the basic salary of their ranks and from the date of deputation. These salaries and allowances would not be subject to any kind of taxes applicable in the Qatar, and Pakistani soldiers would have the right to transfer their complete salary to their country.

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The deputationist would also be provided with furnished accommodation, with free water and electricity in accordance with the regulation as applicable to the Amiri Guard. The families of the officers would also be allowed to stay with the deputed officer with similar facilities. But the officers would be allowed to bring their families only after staying three months in the Guard.Qatar government would have the right to terminate the services of deputationist if the later commits any action that violates the laws and regulations applicable in the state of Qatar and accordingly necessitate termination of his deputation. This will be done after conducting an investigation attended by head of Pakistani military mission of defence adviser of Pakistan at Doha. Qatar would also have the right to terminate the contract of any deputationist even before expiry of the deputation period.

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Nice! Thumbs up to PA for their hard earned status as best of the best!

:pakistan:

Its time people recognized that :pakistan:
 
Righteous


Recognizing Pakistani soldiers by renting them to Arabys? These are supposed to comprise the Amiri guard, imagine that, their rulers need protection of foreigners - and this is a honor???
 
Righteous


Recognizing Pakistani soldiers by renting them to Arabys? These are supposed to comprise the Amiri guard, imagine that, their rulers need protection of foreigners - and this is a honor???

Guys, read it carefully, there is no protection guard, these deputations would be for specialized fields. I don't see any mentioning of fighting formations, they are talking about support formations.

And it can be an honor for us in a way, that they think us capable enough to serve in their armed forces & defend their land, because arabs are basically very proud of their race, and don't consider other muslims as real muslims or equal to them.

So in one way a proud honor that we would be saving their assseessss.
 
Righteous


Recognizing Pakistani soldiers by renting them to Arabys? These are supposed to comprise the Amiri guard, imagine that, their rulers need protection of foreigners - and this is a honor???


I TOTALLY AGREE.......WITH THE RIGHTS THAT QATAR IS GOING TO ENJOY........I HOPE NO INSULTS ARE METTED OUT AS A RESULT OF EGO CLASHES (IF ANY ) THAT MAY OCCUR BETWEEN THE QATAR AND PAKISTAN SOLDIERS......SINCE THEY ARE PAYING YOUR PEOPLE TOO!!!!

IF THEY ARE ACTUALLY HONOURING YOU GUYS THEY SHOULD ALLOW YOU TO WORK ON YOUR OWN RATHER THAN ASKING YOU BE A PART OF THE GUARDS.....IT TOTALLY LOOKS LIKE RENTING ......

NO OFFENCE.........JUST MY VIEW ....
 
taimikhan

new proposed deal between the Pakistan Army and Qatar Government for deputation of unknown number of soldiers with the Qatar Amiri Guard

That's from the piece you presented - have we misunderstood?
 
Righteous


Recognizing Pakistani soldiers by renting them to Arabys? These are supposed to comprise the Amiri guard, imagine that, their rulers need protection of foreigners - and this is a honor???

We are not going to play as their Cannon Fodder Bro! Nor is it insulting! at all! read history and you'll find many many example of foreign special legions being used as the private elite guards of a country's king/ leader / ruler.

Here are some examples:

Five Hundred Years of Loyalty: The Gallantry of the Pope’s Swiss Guard — Catholicism.org - Saint Benedict Center, The Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary

Lafayette Escadrille - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

French Foreign Legion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mamluk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Brigade of Gurkhas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Janissary - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Eagle Squadrons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

33rd Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS Charlemagne (1st French) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In Short its not a shame, its the recognition of the fact that your trained elite troops are of a level as to be recognized as one of the best and being allowed to protect the life of the highest level of our brother country's amir :pakistan::pakistan:
 
A rogues gallery for men sworn to service of Pakistan? Well, of course people will have any number of opinions about this but I think we should avoid this kind of thing - on one hand we complain that Gulf Arbys fund the talib, exercise the most vile of ethnocentricism against us and on the other hand we imagine it a honor to serve in their "Amiri guard" - it's a honor we ought to do with out.
 
^ Valid point! but historically they have always supported us in time of war and peace and have stood with us when no one did! and form history form the links I just posted it is also obvious such devotion increases bonds between friends so that after a time the two grow more closer. In the end these men are serving their own motherland :pakistan: by serving our brothers!

I hope you understand my view :cheers:

:pakistan:
 
taimikhan



That's from the piece you presented - have we misunderstood?

"According to the details placed before the cabinet, the Government of Pakistan will provide specialized officers, technicians and other military personnel to work for Qatar Amiri Guard in various military domains such as equipment, arms maintenance and ammunition. " This is what u missed.

If u have the knowledge of working of deputation staff & PA, these are sent not in thousands just few dozen or in hundreds. Deputations are basically done in specialized fields, where the host nation may be lacking expertise, plus Qatar has just approx 11,800 member armed forces. Army, navy & AF included.

And if u remember, our soldiers are already on deportations in other arab armed forces. Most of them are in Air Force, reason u know well.

So there is nothing huge in it, its not a big deal, looking at the Qatar armed forces, these deputations would be just in a dozens number figure range or at the most a couple of hundreds.

Qatar is a member of GCC, who have already some kind of defence pact to protect each other.
 
WOW , now ordinary pakistani soldier can buy land cruiser:yahoo:

Pakistani generals are famous now our soldier also become rich:woot:
 
Muse..Nothing wrong with it.Pakistanis are not going to fight a war for them..Secondly even US fought Gulf War for Saudi so why should we be worried?India also provides second largest UN forces.
 
It is indeed an honor and a testament to the training, professionalism and ability of the Pak Army.

These people are basically like the US Secret Service or the Pope's Swiss Guard.

Also, this is no different than when retired military personnel serve as security consultants or civilian contractors (Blackwater) etc. It's just that the Pak Army has given them permission to take on these assignments before they retire.

Qataris have money and they want the best that money can buy.:pakistan:

The best proof is all the Indian sour grapes...
 
It is indeed an honor and a testament to the training, professionalism and ability of the Pak Army.

These people are basically like the US Secret Service or the Pope's Swiss Guard.

Also, this is no different than when retired military personnel serve as security consultants or civilian contractors (Blackwater) etc. It's just that the Pak Army has given them permission to take on these assignments before they retire.

Qataris have money and they want the best that money can buy.:pakistan:

The best proof is all the Indian sour grapes...

Where is question of Indian sour grapes ? If pakistani soilders want to become mercenaries of qatar govt. who is to stop them.
Then where are the ethics of a stong disciplined army.

There is no comparision between working under the UN banner and qatar govt?

If only those pakistani soilders are going for instrauction of qatar soilders then it is a different matter and then it is quite good, but not the situation of having toserve qatar govt. and getting paid by them.
 
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