Crimea gave China a pause on SCS- My POV

[Wine&Steak]

Are you referring to the what every chinese here brag about ? That they will just wake up one day and dump all federal bills in open market ?

What if we refuse to pay our obligations only to china specifically ? Can anyone do anything ?

Remember the saying -
If you owe the bank $100 that's your problem. If you owe the bank $100 million, that's the bank's problem.
- J. Paul Getty

I don't think USA will do it, but I want USA to one day selectively default only on China & Russia and issue a new currency. US dollar denominated debt held by rest of the world(Saudi/Japan//India/.....) will be re-denominated in the new currency. Let's us see what happens. Debt holders cannot do a damn thing, if they dump, those will just be bought up. Such a move is just a Gun to everyone's head.

 

[Providence]

Remember the saying -
If you owe the bank $100 that's your problem. If you owe the bank $100 million, that's the bank's problem.
- J. Paul Getty

I don't think USA will do it, but I want USA to one day selectively default only on China & Russia and issue a new currency. US dollar denominated debt held by rest of the world(Saudi/Japan//India/.....) will be re-denominated in the new currency. Let's us see what happens. Debt holders cannot do a damn thing, if they dump, those will just be bought up. Such a move is just a Gun to everyone's head.

No. Point was to highlight how ludicrous the former assertion is by making an equally provocative claim to put everything in perspective.

 

[FaujHistorian]

China will not be able to stem the fall of Russia, .

Nah.

Why would they "stem".

They will let Russian fall, and pick up the pieces like everyone else.

Current chinese policy is to placate to Russian on the street while taking full advantage of rockbottom price of Russian energy by paying them in Chinese Currency

Please remember,

When you pay someone with your own currency, the true cost to you is the cost of paper/cloth that the currency is printed on, especially if it is done in a reasonable manner.

 

[gambit]

Are you referring to what every chinese here brag about ? That they will just wake up one day and dump all federal bills in open market ?

What if we refuse to pay our obligations only to china specifically ? Can anyone do anything about it ?

We will also threaten to sanction the countries which tries to makes any block deals with china in this regard.

China is a recent convert to capitalism. It is like moving from Playboy to Hustler. So for these guys here, whose parents probably never knew what is a credit card, they think that the more hardcore pornography they look at, the more they know about women, and have no hesitation preaching to married men. It is like a man-boy who just got his driver's license, ran around the block a few times in daddy's car, and let us be generous and say it is a fine Mercedes, and thinks he can criticize Helio Castroneves on HC's passing techniques.

 

[Providence]

China is a recent convert to capitalism. It is like moving from Playboy to Hustler. So for these guys here, whose parents probably never knew what is a credit card, they think that the more hardcore pornography they look at, the more they know about women, and have no hesitation preaching to married men. It is like a man-boy who just got his driver's license, ran around the block a few times in daddy's car, and let us be generous and say it is a fine Mercedes, and thinks he can criticize Helio Castroneves on HC's passing techniques.

Are u always that brutal ?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

China is a recent convert to capitalism. It is like moving from Playboy to Hustler. So for these guys here, whose parents probably never knew what is a credit card, they think that the more hardcore pornography they look at, the more they know about women, and have no hesitation preaching to married men. It is like a man-boy who just got his driver's license, ran around the block a few times in daddy's car, and let us be generous and say it is a fine Mercedes, and thinks he can criticize Helio Castroneves on HC's passing techniques.

From CNN:

Chinese like capitalism more than Americans - CNN News

 

[EastSea]

We already spanked USS Cowpens in the South China Sea. Right after USA bragged about protecting Philippines from Chinese attack, we invaded Scarborough Shoal. USA could only protest and cry about it. Vietnam was next on our hit list. We spanked them so hard the VCP was almost overthrown. If USN wants to feed fishes in South China Sea, they are welcome to enter the dragon's lair! Our nukes are ready to wipe out every single man, woman and child in America. Only weaklings play economic sanction games. We go straight for the megaton air burst above Manhattan.

wet dream of china.

 

[TheTruth]

And yet the great majority of the debt is owed to.... yourselves. Public debt means nothing, zero, zilch, nada.

Public debt actually includes debt to foreigners. Are you trying to make Americans look like retards?

Then Crimea happened, and although excruciating slow at the beginning, Europe and US came together much stronger, with a great deal of help from our allies in the middle east, to prove that we would not allow Russia to simply annex parts of another country.

China isn't Russia, and the SCS islands are not Crimea. China has the strongest claim to the islands and you "challenging" China's right to its own uninhabited islands with military or economic force will lead to the immediate downfall of all regimes participating. Don't kid yourself.

The subsequent fortitude showed has got the Chinese diplomats and regime thinking twice. Should they imagine a muscle into the South China Sea, oddly based on the notion of some homemade maps and a 9 dashed line theory- it will then have to contend with going up against a strong response from U.S and its allies.

America has no real allies in Asia. South Korea isn't going to do a thing, just like how no one did anything when China retook her territory in '88 and '12. The fact that you hold China to higher standards is well-known to the CPC and the Chinese people, and your complete disregard of the ROC's claim is also noted.

Daniel Russel, US point man for East Asia said “"The net effect is to put more pressure on China to demonstrate that it remains committed to the peaceful resolution of the problems," Russel, the U.S. assistant secretary of state for East Asia, told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Russel is an idiot and a sad fat ****.

You see the Chinese would be cutting their own foot if they risked any such economic calamity as it needs these markets to do well, to keep its economic engines going.

No, it doesn't. They can redirect exports elsewhere or consume them internally, not to mention exports to America are not very profitable. Meanwhile there's no country in the world that can give you what China gives the US.

Added to this the world is watching the outcome of the case that was filed against China by the Philippines at The Hague. Although China at the offset, like a petulant child, declared it would not adhere to the rulings. A favorable ruling would give Philippines the PR victory in its legitimacy over China’s claims. And it would add more legitimacy to the rest of us, on the sidelines.

ITLOS doesn't make rulings about territorial claims. You'd know this if your government ever bothered acceding to UNCLOS.

 

[TheTruth]

What if we refuse to pay our obligations only to china specifically ? Can anyone do anything about it ?

Are you "American-Millenium" ?

What do you think is going to happen to all your assets in Asia if you try to "selectively" default (which, btw, you have been adamant in refusing to allow Argentina among others to do)? It's also not going to stop a MASSIVE private run on USD holdings which will destroy you

China is a recent convert to capitalism. It is like moving from Playboy to Hustler. So for these guys here, whose parents probably never knew what is a credit card, they think that the more hardcore pornography they look at, the more they know about women, and have no hesitation preaching to married men. It is like a man-boy who just got his driver's license, ran around the block a few times in daddy's car, and let us be generous and say it is a fine Mercedes, and thinks he can criticize Helio Castroneves on HC's passing techniques.

Guess we all gotta learn from the Philippines long capitalist success story. Nah, it's more like a 17 year-old banging your wife and all the beautiful women or whatever you never could (best, fastest growth in human history) while your **** slowly stops working, and then you make inane rants about hardcore pornography on the internet.

 

[gambit]

Guess we all gotta learn from the Philippines long capitalist success story. Nah, it's more like a 17 year-old banging your wife and all the beautiful women or whatever you never could (best, fastest growth in human history) while your **** slowly stops working, and then you make inane rants about hardcore pornography on the internet.

And I bet all these women are named 'Jackie'.

 

[TheTruth]

And I bet all these women are named 'Jackie'.

Tell me again, how long has the Philippines played with Capitalism?

Some people are naturally gifted, some ungifted. Your analogy leaves that out.

Remember the saying -
If you owe the bank $100 that's your problem. If you owe the bank $100 million, that's the bank's problem.
- J. Paul Getty

I don't think USA will do it, but I want USA to one day selectively default only on China & Russia and issue a new currency. US dollar denominated debt held by rest of the world(Saudi/Japan//India/.....) will be re-denominated in the new currency. Let's us see what happens. Debt holders cannot do a damn thing, if they dump, those will just be bought up. Such a move is just a Gun to everyone's head.

Typical grade-school Indian thinking, try harder. You should join a think-tank, invited retired_statedept to it and turn India into a superpower.

 

[Superboy]

Russel said the retaliatory sanctions imposed on Russia by the United States, the European Union and others should have a "chilling effect on anyone in China who might contemplate the Crimea annexation as a model."

BS. We are China. We are a super power. We are not intimidated by anyone. Go ahead. Sanction China. We have enough food, enough water, enough weapons to give you Americans a whoop a$$ again just like we did in Korea

Korean War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

China is 9.5 million square kilometers. The US is only 9.3 million square kilometers.

 

[gambit]

Tell me again, how long has the Philippines played with Capitalism?

Some people are naturally gifted, some ungifted. Your analogy leaves that out.

When I said 'So for these guys here...' I mean you and your fellow Chinese on this forum, not the few wealthy Chinese who actually, metaphorically, get to meet all those beautiful women while you guys on this forum needs 'Jackies' from Playboy and Hustler.

You guys -- on this forum -- will never know what it is like to live in a 3000 sq/ft house, and if we are to continue using meeting women as analogy, that is like me getting hot and heavy every day with a lingerie model while you and your fellow Chinese on this forum have to settle for 'Jackies'. Just like how your China have a shortage of women, capitalism and its benefits is short for most. I am no economics major but you guys are even less. That is why you guys continues to masturbate on this forum over stupid threats like how China will dump US bonds and crash the US economy. So watching you guys pump your fists up/down over something so absurd a threat is like watching a bunch of exhibitionists who are clueless on how much of a spectacle they are.

 

[TheTruth]

When I said 'So for these guys here...' I mean you and your fellow Chinese on this forum, not the few wealthy Chinese who actually, metaphorically, get to meet all those beautiful women while you guys on this forum needs 'Jackies' from Playboy and Hustler.

You guys -- on this forum -- will never know what it is like to live in a 3000 sq/ft house, and if we are to continue using meeting women as analogy, that is like me getting hot and heavy every day with a lingerie model while you and your fellow Chinese on this forum have to settle for 'Jackies'. Just like how your China have a shortage of women, capitalism and its benefits is short for most. I am no economics major but you guys are even less. That is why you guys continues to masturbate on this forum over stupid threats like how China will dump US bonds and crash the US economy. So watching you guys pump your fists up/down over something so absurd a threat is like watching a bunch of exhibitionists who are clueless on how much of a spectacle they are.

lol "3000 sq/ft" (you don't divide the square by the feet)

Not that it means anything, but I doubt your countrymen back in the Philippines will know what it's like to live in a 300 sqft house or what it's like to live in a safe place.

Wealth in China is very equitably distributed for a middle income country. Yes, you're clearly not an econ major. You're majoring in Being Filipino, which opens the doors to lapdog, maid, prostitute or failure careers. Get a real job.

 

[gambit]

lol "3000 sq/ft" (you don't divide the square by the feet)

That is SHORTHAND for square feet, you dope. Some real estate agents use a forward slash, some use a period (.). But no matter which abbreviation, when the subject is about real estate, any combination of 'sq' and 'ft' will be recognize as an abbreviation for area, not math. The laugh is on you, kid. But it is understandable since you probably never dealt with anything larger than the closet you are living now.

Not that it means anything, but I doubt your countrymen back in the Philippines will know what it's like to live in a 300 sqft house or what it's like to live in a safe place.

Wealth in China is very equitably distributed for a middle income country. Yes, you're clearly not an econ major. You're majoring in Being Filipino, which opens the doors to lapdog, maid, prostitute or failure careers. Get a real job.

And you are ? But even if you are, it would not mean anything because you probably never had to deal with any numbers larger than the few yuans leftover from last night's dinner in whatever Chinese version of fast food.

You guys -- figuratively speaking -- are nothing but a bunch of jerk-offs in this forum. And I said that kindly. Look at the lot of you. So many 'nuking of America' or 'dump US bonds', as if any of you have any real experience in the areas that created those fantasies.

This is a military oriented forum. From my 10 yrs in the USAF, I have a lot more respect for the PLA than you clowns realize. I realize that while it is obvious that the PLA modernization have American signatures all over, I can understand the mental hardships the PLA officer corps must go through when they know they have no choice but follow American lead if they want to modernize the PLA. As such, those men are NOTHING like you clowns on this forum. There is no 'nuking America' for them. They know that such an act would spell the end of China as the world knows it. They are the complete opposite of you ya-hoos : serious minded, deliberative, educated, pragmatic, reserved, and best of all -- INTELLIGENT. The last item DOES NOT apply to the Chinese contingent on this forum or to your other playground.

That is why I call you guys 'jerk-offs' because that is exactly what you guys do every time any of you talk about 'nuking America'. A nuclear war with the US is the military fantasy centerfold version of Playboy, something that serious minded men would not pay any mind. But not the Chinese members here where not one of you have ever been in the military, not even as a cook. You guys talk about 'nuking America' the way pubescent boys yabber about women after they are done with Miss Jackie Mehoff. A real US Army cook would have more credibility than all of you combined.

Same with that economic fantasy centerfold of 'dumping US bonds' to 'collapse US economy'. So easily said as if any of you have any real experience in high finance and economics to know what the hell you are talking about. The Chinese who actually work for or run businesses that partners with US companies and clients, just like real PLA officers, are NOTHING like you posers on this forum. They know that any damages to the US economy from any cause and China will at least equally suffer, if not more.

So when it comes to military and economics, where none of you ever served in the military or had any real jobs in economics or high finance but talks smack about both military and economics issues, this represents the lot of you...