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You are absolutely right about the attitude of players. Never for a minute they looked like professionals out in the field. Still I think India will bounce back from it, but it looks like hope is simply fading away by the minute for Pakistan. :angry:

India should not bounce back, People should loose interest in cricket, and other sports should pick up. I actually liked the way irish and bangladesh played, as if they were going to die if they dont win. Did you notice the way India and Pakistan fielded; it was as if they were playinf Beach Cricket.

Aussie's in this way are very professional, but they are so far up their ***, they cant see how fucking arrogant they are.
 
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Ireland deserved to win.
I've never seen such a pathetic display by my team, I'm glad we got dumped! :mad:
 
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Guys dont get disheartened. I dont blame this team if they have lost. This is the best they could do and we should support them.

We must keep the facts in mind before criticising our team.

Let me list a few.

Austalia lost their No. 1 position in world ranking by replacement of only one player from their regular squad (andrew symond) and our team had major setbacks. Our key players Shoaib, Asif, Razak and Afridi were not playing.

I blame Shoaib and Asif for their irresponsible behaviour. And i ask critics of Inzi and Bob woolmer to shut up. If Shoaib and Asif took drugs it was not because of Inzi or woolmer.

Our team had major injury issues

Last but not the least (whethter anyone agrees or not) i blame Lt. Gen. R Tauqeer Zia for whatever crisis our team faces.

Given these circumstances they did their best.
 
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'Pain and shock' over Pakistan's ouster from World Cup

ISLAMABAD: March 18, 2007: The Pakistan cricket team's dismal performance and ouster from the World Cup at the hands of Ireland has shocked the nation and drawn criticism at home.

Ireland clinched a sensational three-wicket victory over Pakistan to send the former champions crashing out of the World Cup at Sabina Park, Jamaica, on Saturday.

Pakistan Cricket Board chief Nasim Ashraf will likely be the first head to roll when he faces a senate standing committee next week.

"We will ask for his (Ashraf's) resignation in the meeting which is due to take place before March 28," Senator Mohammad Enver Baig, a member of the senate standing committee on culture, sports, youth affairs and tourism told AFP.

"You lost miserably to a country like Ireland. There is nothing to compensate and the chairman must resign and go back to the United States," Baig said.

"The way the team has lost is the most disgraceful performance since the World Cup started. The entire nation is shocked."

Baig said Ashraf had no experience to head the Board and his "one man show" type of management had resulted in the "shameful defeat."

"He is a crony of (President) Pervez Musharraf and the way he (Musharraf) is running the country, the cricket board is also being run in same manner. It is a one-man rule everywhere," Baig said.

Former cricketing great, paceman Sarfraz Nawaz, said the shock was "unbearable" for him.

"I am speaking with deep pain and this shock is becoming unbearable for me," Nawaz said.

"The captain, coach and the entire team should be held accountable," he said.

Nawaz demanded that those responsible for defeat must be "fired".

He said that during the match with Ireland "it seemed that the umpires also wanted that Pakistan should win, but the body language of the team reflected that they wanted to lose."

The Irish victory handed Pakistan their second straight defeat in the competition, following their 54-run loss to hosts West Indies last Tuesday.

The win also provisionally puts Ireland in the lead of Group D, with three points -- one more than West Indies and two ahead of Zimbabwe (both have a match in hand) -- leaving Pakistan at the bottom of the table with no points.

Brecorder.com
 
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any way,s lets try to get over it. bad day agreed but this is what ALLAH had willed & it happened so let,s not lose hope. All praise is for ALLAH in all circumstances. amin
 
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:tdown: :tdown: I AM SAD AND MAD I AM STILL TO RECOVER FROM IT:angry:

I cant recover from this so easily, people r making fun, i have many bangladeshi friends and i also know alot of irrish people too. Its not easy to confront any of em right now. You wont believe, how iam hiding myself.:disagree:
 
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These morons should get paid on their performances. rather than on monthly salary, a total waste of money...........for the last 4 yrzz or so.
 
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Imran calls for new leadership​

Former Pakistan captain Imran Khan has called for a complete overhaul of the national team in the wake of the shock World Cup defeat to Ireland on Saturday that sent them crashing out of the tournament.

"It is time to have new leadership for the Pakistan team, one who can adopt a more aggressive and positive approach," Imran told Reuters on Sunday.

Imran who led Pakistan to the 1992 World Cup title said Pakistan's failed campaign was the result of short-sightedness displayed by the captain, coach and chief selectors in preparing for the World Cup.

The former all-rounder said it was also time to have a new coach who was more innovative and who could properly utilise the immense talent emerging in Pakistan.

The Pakistani nation woke up on Sunday unable to believe that their team, touted as one of the title contenders, was out of the World Cup.

It is the first time that Pakistan has gone out of the World Cup after just two games.

Former players described the defeat to Ireland as a black day for Pakistan cricket and shameful.

POSITIVE CHANGE

Imran who played 88 tests and 175 one-day internationals said the crisis was an opportunity to bring about a positive change.

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has functioned on an ad-hoc basis since 1999 with the country's president directly appointing the chairman of the board.

"This system must change. What qualification does the president have to make such important cricket appointments. We need to run the board constitutionally and professionally," Imran added.

Former captain, Rashid Latif said current skipper Inzamam-ul-Haq and coach Bob Woolmer must resign and meaningful changes be made to the team.

Other former players, including Intikhab Alam, who was the coach of the 1992 World Cup squad, blamed uninspiring captaincy, poor coaching and selections for Pakistan's defeat.

"It is a black day for Pakistan cricket. The team and board management are responsible. We need to start from scratch," Alam said.

Former batsman and coach, Haroon Rasheed said he was surprised at the lack of professionalism and spine displayed by the team against Ireland.

Imran said the constant chopping and changing in the team, the failure to find a reliable opening pair and not to play leg-spinner Danish Kaneria against Ireland contributed to Pakistan's worst ever performance.

The most amazing selection was of Imran Nazir, who had been out of international cricket for six years and was suddenly pushed in for the World Cup, he said.

"It was a big blunder not to play Kaneria as everyone knows weak teams find it most difficult to play leg-spin," Imran said.
http://www.supercricket.co.za/default.asp?id=208731&des=article&scat=supercricket/worldcup2007
 
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Former Pakistan captain Imran Khan has called for a complete overhaul of the national team in the wake of the shock World Cup defeat to Ireland on Saturday that sent them crashing out of the tournament.

"It is time to have new leadership for the Pakistan team, one who can adopt a more aggressive and positive approach," Imran told Reuters on Sunday.

TOTALLY AGREED!
 
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AsSalam oAlaikum.

I have to agree totally with Imran. we have serious issues with the present BCCP setup which is answerable to no one and clearly has no clues about runing the shop. We ought to hold elections and choose a proper cabinet and president who should be made answerable to the public. Equal representation should be given to all the divisions ( not provinces) and a selection committee should be chosen on merit by this council. Players salaries should be based to some extent on their performances, with performing players getting more than the nonperforming ones, as well as have a winning bonus and a loosing deduction

We need to restructure the regional cricket, and hold national championships based on a league system, for an A+B side for 18 and over(only), under 16s. and under12s. Education should be a must for selection at least at the under 12 and 16 as should drug testing and education.18 regional academies should be set up where the players should be taught and deficiencies corrected earlier on.

The pitches should be variable and at least some should be green tops( if not all). A National training and testing Indoor arena should be set up, where we should adapt the most innovative approaches with Pitches in troughs, ability to simulate light, weather, wind and moisture conditions and computerised bowling machines which can simulate the action of any bowler. This will give us the ability to know our adversaries in their environment before we face them.

If after all that we dont win any competition we should forget about cricket and play something else like Ludo.

WaSalam
Araz
 
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A dark day in Pakistan’s cricket history

By Kamran Abbasi

KINGSTON (Jamaica), March 18: Pakistan crashed out of the 2007 World Cup with a humiliating performance against the leprechauns of Ireland. Saturday the 17th of March will be remembered as one of the darkest days in the history of Pakistan cricket. It certainly made this Pakistan’s worst World Cup. The proud history created by cricketing heroes like Imran Khan, Javed Miandad, Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis has been dragged through the mud of Montego Bay.

The cricketing tragedy was dimmed by the human tragedy of the shocking death of Bob Woolmer. Pakistan’s coach was fundamentally a decent man, who wanted to achieve great success with Pakistan, a team he viewed as brimful of talent. But his inability to stop Pakistan’s rapid decline over the last year meant he would not have continued beyond this tournament. Even Woolmer’s expertise in coaching failed to find a solution to Pakistan’s problems of opening, batting on seaming tracks, and fielding.

Now Inzamam-ul-Haq is under immense pressure to resign. The World Cup made a hero out of Inzamam the boy. It has brought humiliation to Inzamam the captain. There seems little logic to allowing him to continue as captain in either form of the game, an earth-shattering end to the ambitions of a man who wanted to emulate Imran Khan.

The responsibility for this national disaster does not stop with Inzamam but goes right to the top, taking in the chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board and its patron.

The deepening gloom of a Jamaican evening and helpful umpiring were not enough to get Pakistan off the hook against an Irish team that showed more spirit than Pakistan have been able to produce all tournament. On St Patrick’s Day, a national holiday in Ireland, Pakistan followed up their gift to the host nation with another donation to their opponents.

Pakistan’s bowlers struggled manfully to retrieve another hopeless situation but lacked the killer touch to finish off a team of amateurs. Their cause was not helped by the absence of Danish Kaneria, picked as a match-winner but left out of a do-or-die encounter against batsmen unfamiliar with legspin.

But the crisis had been created by another inept display from Pakistan’s criticised openers and celebrated middle order. Heightening confusion and lack of a clear strategy have engulfed Pakistan cricket over the last six months, incidentally since the elevation of Dr Nasim Ashraf to board chairman. While top teams like Australia and South Africa have known their ideal one-day combination for many months and only fine-tuned them over recent weeks, Pakistan’s selection has been haphazard and often devoid of logic. The strategy of the team management has been usurped by the interference of the PCB.

The injury fiasco and doping saga have shown the PCB in the worst possible light and drawn attention to the lack of unified vision among senior members of the cricket board, selectors and team management. Off the field, Pakistan cricket has displayed incompetence. On the field, Pakistan cricket has displayed a lack of guts and a lethargy that was thought impossible among international sportsmen.

Clearly, Inzamam failed to inspire his charges. Inzamam’s low-key style of captaincy sits uncomfortably with the Pakistani psyche, and his constant passing on of responsibility to the will of Allah has become an embarrassment. What more can be said of a captain who chose to bat at number 5 against an associate member of the ICC when his team required him to lead from the front?

The worst aspect has been that Pakistan have made the same mistakes over and over again. The problem of finding an opening partnership to replace Saeed Anwar and Aamir Sohail remains just that several years after their retirement. Pakistan’s master batsmen seem unable to cope with conditions that offer the slightest swing and seam. At times of pressure, the batsmen crumble, failing to take responsibility. The team’s fielding resembles a bunch of geriatrics out for an evening stroll. Even the famous intervention of Jonty Rhodes failed to have an effect, with Inzamam commenting that Rhodes taught the team all the wrong things and left. Those same “incorrect” methods look to be working a treat for South Africa, a team full of energy and commitment to self-improvement.

The one outstanding achievement of the Inzamam-Woolmer era is that Pakistan’s cricket is much more consistent than it ever was. No longer the periods of brilliance punctuated by a flash of recklessness. Consistent failure has become a norm.

Pakistan cricket requires a root and branch reform that sees a new captain, coach, selection committee, chairman of the board and his colleagues, and a new patron. Merit must replace nepotism and favouritism, a proper constitution must replace ad-hocism. These demands are not new. They have been recommended since the slide began in the mid-1990s but they have not been heeded. Now Pakistan finds itself at the bottom of international cricket’s pecking order.

The politicisation of cricket in Pakistan is a major handicap to its development, and the president’s personal selection of his pals to the post of the chairman and the media manager of the cricket team have emphasised how flawed the system is. Both the chairman and the media manager have become a laughing stock at home and abroad, and don’t reflect well on the president’s ability to choose his lieutenants wisely.

The era of Inzamam has been a contradiction to the Pakistani mindset, a defensive and passive outlook that has sucked the passion out of the team’s cricket. Pakistan cricket must return to the values that made it great: aggression, passion and fearlessness. And it must start now.

With India on the brink of elimination as well, the giants of Asian cricket are finally about to pay for their arrogance and decadence with four years of wound licking.

http://www.dawn.com/2007/03/19/top15.htm
 
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The one thing you guys don't want to do is throw out the baby with the bathwater. All you need is a strong coach who has the power to properly manage the team, a management team that works for the coach, and leave the players alone. They're the best you've got, just give them the administrative support they need.
 
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