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March 28, 2017, 12:10 AM IST Economic Times in ET Commentary | Economy, India, World | ET

By Kai Xue

The China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) is the game-changing package of Chinese capital and engineering worth $54 billion in investment and lending. But the ultimate aim is to bring together China, India and Pakistan as part of a Eurasian market forged by Chinese President Xi Jinping’s ‘One Belt, One Road’ policy.

Indians hear nefarious military overtones in this initiative’s inaptly chosen name. Already, uneasy about any joint endeavour by Pakistan and China, the name gives the exclusive impression of a communication line to bridge the Indian Ocean and China from Baluchistan’s Gwadar port up through the Karakorum highway into Xinjiang, the mini-continent-sized northwest province of China.

Perceiving the CPEC to be a threat and objecting to projects in Indianclaimed areas, India has stayed away from ‘Belt and Road’. In his 2016 Independence Day speech, Prime Minister Narendra Modi voiced support for movements in Baluchistan, Pakistan-administered Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan, end-points of the headline CPEC route that would be disrupted by insurgency. Modi has pushed ahead with the Chabahar port refurbishment and railway construction in Iran, a proposal that is called an ‘answer’ to the CPEC.

In conceiving support for another infrastructure project like Chabahar to be a competitor, Delhi’s strategic thinking narrowly construes the CPEC, exaggerates the standing gained from geopolitical trophies, and lacks appreciation for the tangibles and breadth of an initiative that holds the power to transform Pakistan.



Let India not be a kabab me haddi

Multiple Spinoffs

Far more than a transit route, $27 billion worth of CPEC resources are, in fact, allocated to undertake 18 power projects. The other half of the total $54 billion goes far beyond support for the Gwadar port complex and will include the engineering of four national trunk highways, overhaul or construction of three mainline railways, the start of a metro system in Lahore and a cross-country pipeline.

The ultimate vision dwarfs the inordinate attention on just the port and road. The end goal is stable electricity and logistics for an export-manufacturing economy in Pakistan.

Unbeknown to strategists in Delhi, the CPEC’s real competitor is ‘Make in India’. The long-term economic calculation for India and Pakistan is the same. Due to the doubling of blue-collar wages every seven years in China, factories will either move to other Asian countries or stay in China in highly automated factories.

For India, Pakistan and other Asian countries aiming for middle income status, capturing relocated manufacturing is pivotal. In textiles alone, China has a giant lead, shipping $274 billion in exports annually compared to $40 billion by India, the second-largest exporter. If ‘Make in India’ takes the lion’s share of textile exports, that alone creates more direct jobs than the 3.7 million current jobs in the Indian IT and BPO industries.

However, despite continued revenue growth for IT companies, delivery centres and factories alike are adopting rapid automation, a phenomenon that will, in the next five years, shrink the already small BPO and IT workforce in India by 500,000 jobs. India has 1 million people reaching working age every month and needs to see through ‘Make in India’, just as the CPEC is critical to Pakistan’s stable future.

The CPEC is on track with the ongoing construction of early harvest projects, largely made up of 12 fast-tracked electricity-related projects slated for completion in 2018. The naysayers of the CPEC were wrong in their pessimism about the compatibility of Pakistan for a Chinese plan. The pace of Chinese infrastructure development and profitability for Chinese state-owned companies can be transplanted to another host country when backed by receptive policy and generous Chinabacked financing.

On the other hand, India isn’t making as much progress as it has sought. While the NDA government has paved more kilometres of roads per day than its predecessor and reached coal production targets made from the outset, inadequacies are clear in the momentum of this government’s infrastructure ambitions.

Due to fiscal exhaustion, a shortlived railway construction boom will likely peter out and frequent power cuts will persist even with a power production surplus unless inefficient transmission is overhauled. ‘Make in India’ can’t go far with Modi’s infrastructure predicament. But Pakistani manufacturing growth will be powered by Chinese logistical performance.




The True Competition

The Delhi strategic community doesn’t see the true competition, the basis for a blunder in turning away from an opportunity. The actual daunting challenge for India is in the CPEC’s commercial success enabling Pakistan to pull ahead of India as a successor in labour-intensive export manufacturing.

It’s doubly off base to see Indian security threatened and consider sabotage through proxy conflict. The CPEC fosters restraint and discourages provocation by Pakistan due to the gain in national ego from greater achievement than its rival and having then something to lose in the material benefits of a climbing standard of living. But there’s something India is already losing in its posture to ‘Belt and Road’. If proportionately scaled, India is missing out on $400-500 billion in financing and investment with rail and electricity likely benefiting most. Perhaps, the inaptly named CPEC should have been called ‘Make in Pakistan’. That would make clear the opportunity and challenge from China for ‘Make in India’.

The writer is a corporate lawyer in Beijing

DISCLAIMER : Views expressed above are the author's own.

http://blogs.economictimes.indiatim...part-of-xi-jinpings-one-belt-one-road-policy/

Really interesting article @Chinese-Dragon @LA se Karachi @Kiss_of_the_Dragon @mrrehan @Sinopakfriend
 
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The CPEC is on track with the ongoing construction of early harvest projects, largely made up of 12 fast-tracked electricity-related projects slated for completion in 2018. The naysayers of the CPEC were wrong in their pessimism about the compatibility of Pakistan for a Chinese plan. The pace of Chinese infrastructure development and profitability for Chinese state-owned companies can be transplanted to another host country when backed by receptive policy and generous Chinabacked financing.

On the other hand, India isn’t making as much progress as it has sought. While the NDA government has paved more kilometres of roads per day than its predecessor and reached coal production targets made from the outset, inadequacies are clear in the momentum of this government’s infrastructure ambitions.

Due to fiscal exhaustion, a shortlived railway construction boom will likely peter out and frequent power cuts will persist even with a power production surplus unless inefficient transmission is overhauled. ‘Make in India’ can’t go far with Modi’s infrastructure predicament. But Pakistani manufacturing growth will be powered by Chinese logistical performance.

Laughable claims.
 
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The ultimate vision dwarfs the inordinate attention on just the port and road. The end goal is stable electricity and logistics for an export-manufacturing economy in Pakistan.


:tup::tup::tup: This.

The main goal of CPEC is not roads and bridges and a transportation corridor (though that is a major component of it). But rather, it is resolving Pakistan's long-term energy crisis and setting up an export-manufacturing economy like China's.

We don't have to be quite as successful as the Chinese. If Pakistan can come even close to resolving its energy crisis and emulating China's success in manufacturing (albeit on much lesser scale), CPEC will be a huge success.
 
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Laughable claims.

:lol:

:tup::tup::tup: This.

The main goal of CPEC is not roads and bridges and a transportation corridor (though that is a major component of it). But rather, it is resolving Pakistan's long-term energy crisis and setting up an export-manufacturing economy like China's.

We don't have to be quite as successful as the Chinese. If Pakistan can come even close to resolving its energy crisis and emulating China's success in manufacturing (albeit on much lesser scale), CPEC will be a huge success.

In Sha Allah (God willing) :tup:
 
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China wants access to Indian markets. 46 billion dollars investment make much sense if India is involved in cpec for Chinese
 
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The CPEC is on track with the ongoing construction of early harvest projects, largely made up of 12 fast-tracked electricity-related projects slated for completion in 2018. The naysayers of the CPEC were wrong in their pessimism about the compatibility of Pakistan for a Chinese plan. The pace of Chinese infrastructure development and profitability for Chinese state-owned companies can be transplanted to another host country when backed by receptive policy and generous Chinabacked financing.

On the other hand, India isn’t making as much progress as it has sought. While the NDA government has paved more kilometres of roads per day than its predecessor and reached coal production targets made from the outset, inadequacies are clear in the momentum of this government’s infrastructure ambitions.

Due to fiscal exhaustion, a shortlived railway construction boom will likely peter out and frequent power cuts will persist even with a power production surplus unless inefficient transmission is overhauled. ‘Make in India’ can’t go far with Modi’s infrastructure predicament. But Pakistani manufacturing growth will be powered by Chinese logistical performance.


Let's not forget that the Chinese are talking about a loan in the first place.

Talking about early harvest power projects, it should be noted India adds two times the installed capacity planned for the entire CPEC project, every year. That is at a much lower cost than $2 billion per GW, with the entire plant- steam generators, turbogenerators, auxiliaries all built in India. Why should we go for Chinese finance, neglecting our industry ?

We have our own Industrial corridors underway, the biggest being Delhi - Mumbai Industrial Corridor (DMIC) with an estimated investment of $100 billion (no powerplants included :lol:) with 8 greenfield industrial regions/ cities in phase 1

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Also, India is already constructing two ‘Dedicated Freight Corridors’ to connect the to our ports be ready by 2019- these are true ‘heavy-haul railways’, unlike Pak railways upgrade project. These also form the backbone of our ‘Industrial Corridor’ projects.


We do not require a Chinese corridor project (or even an Indian corridor) to build a metro rail system in our cities, as we already have it in 7 of our cities & are building them in 8 more cities- without much hype.

The actual daunting challenge for India is in the CPEC’s commercial success enabling Pakistan to pull ahead of India as a successor in labour-intensive export manufacturing.

Given the present status of Pakistani industry, I don't see that happening any soon.
 
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Nah,we cannt handle the game changing,mind changing,economy changing and what not changing.
let us deside where our roads go and chinese can come and make in India like chinese companies are doing now.
 
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Let's not forget that the Chinese are talking about a loan in the first place.

Talking about early harvest power projects, it should be noted India adds two times the installed capacity planned for the entire CPEC project, every year. That is at a much lower cost than $2 billion per GW, with the entire plant- steam generators, turbogenerators, auxiliaries all built in India. Why should we go for Chinese finance, neglecting our industry ?

We have our own Industrial corridors underway, the biggest being Delhi - Mumbai Industrial Corridor (DMIC) with an estimated investment of $100 billion (no powerplants included :lol:) with 8 greenfield industrial regions/ cities in phase 1

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Also, India is already constructing two ‘Dedicated Freight Corridors’ to connect the to our ports be ready by 2019- these are true ‘heavy-haul railways’, unlike Pak railways upgrade project. These also form the backbone of our ‘Industrial Corridor’ projects.


We do not require a Chinese corridor project (or even an Indian corridor) to build a metro rail system in our cities, as we already have it in 7 of our cities & are building them in 8 more cities- without much hype.



Given the present status of Pakistani industry, I don't see that happening any soon.

All players in this region have different point of view.

For China that grew on construction boom from 1979 until now and, with home markets saturated, they are looking at OBOR as way to further extend their growth from constructions in other countries. CPEC is highly risky with uncertain returns. Getting India involved will help reduce that uncertainty and access to Indian markets makes it returns assured from its investments and with much faster rate.

Pakistan knows that China is exploiting its situation with high interest rates and securing itself of Pakistani market. 15 years of violence has reduced Pakistan economy to doldrums. Any investment that gets it economy going is welcome. That is what Pakistan is doing in spite of knowing that China is exploiting its situation.

For India, CPEC is going though the territory its claims, hence a big no. Moreover, for Indians, CPEC is not attractive because it can access Indian Ocean. And there are lots of projects in India that are much larger then the sum invested in CPEC.
 
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Pakistan knows that China is exploiting its situation with high interest rates and securing itself of Pakistani market.


The falsehoods never stop with you, do they? The narrative you spout is just too hard to shake, isn't it? How many times are you going to repeat this lie over and over again?

Do a little research. Most of the interest rates being provided by China are below market rate loans. Get it through your thick skull.

15 years of violence has reduced Pakistan economy to doldrums.


More falsehoods. The Pakistani economy is not in "doldrums". It is growing at a healthy rate, and accelerates a little bit each year.

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That is what Pakistan is doing in spite of knowing that China is exploiting its situation.


No, it is Pakistan that stands the most to gain from CPEC, not China. Pakistan needs a massive investment in its energy infrastructure to resolve its current crisis. It has been estimated to be costing Pakistan 2-2.5% in economic growth every year.
 
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Well we are happy with our projects... no thanks.. We have plenty projects in hand.. not dependent on single country loans, investment... Power demand growing rapidly, so are the power projects...

road connectivity:

The target of construction of National Highways is 15,000 km, of which 6,604 km have been completed till Feb in the current financial year 2016-17.

http://pib.nic.in/newsite/PrintRelease.aspx?relid=159038

metro: even small towns like Vijayawada, vizag and new capital Amaravati slated for metro.. These projects under progress and all these 3 projects in one state..

Vijayawada metro- 1.14 billion $( phase 1)
Vizag metro- 2billion $ +

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by dec 2016 we have 314106.33314106.33MW installed capacity..
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by feb-2017, it is 315426.32mw..

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