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Court acquits Christian on death row for blasphemy

I've already mentioned the reason why the Law is easily abused:


People are thrown in jail because the corrupt police officials do not want to check the regulation. An apology from the supposed* offender is sufficient to prevent any jail term at all. In almost all cases the accused is actually the victim of evil individuals.

Secondly, even if this Law was removed, then those people would find another law to abuse. People end up in jail just because their wadera accused them of theft (without proving anything) and the victim loses years in jail during the prosecution and then further continues to serve time after the conviction. Should we also repeal laws that punish theft or muders or anything else ??


*I used the word supposed because there is no conviction from courts yet and there is usually no proof of any wrongdoing.

You are saying that it is a just law that is abused by some people. I am saying that the law itself is unjust, immoral and ethically bankrupt. There is no "proper use" of a blasphemy law, as opposed to its misuse. That is why it is different from laws against theft or murder or rape, and that is why the comparison is flawed.

We need laws against murder or theft, because there are real, flesh and blood victims for such crimes. A victimless crime is not a criime at all. If somebody insults a god, it is upto god to punish him or her. Although, thinking even further, as I remarked earlier, why an all powerful and all knowing god would want to punish somebody for a verbal insut is also beyind me. I'm sure that a god worth his name (or a human being worth that name) will simply ignore silly insults.

The point is that blasphemy should not be a crime at all. Remember, many things that one religion teaches will be blasphemous to another religion. If you say "there is no god but allah", that could be considered as blasphemy to a polytheist. Should polytheists start arresting people who say "la illaha..."? No, of course not.

The old testament is very clear that blasphemers shall be stoned to death. Denying the holy ghost is an "eternal sin" and such a person "shall surely be put to death", according to the bible. That makes pretty much all non christians liable to be stoned to death. Would you want christian countries to follow that letter in law and spirit?

Now you may say that since pakistan is an islamic country, only blasphemy against islam or allah should be a crime. But even then, if you want to be really morally honest, and maintain intellectual integrity, you have to admit that it shoud not be a crime. It doesnt make sense for a god to want to punish people for such a harmless thing. It makes even less sense for that god to leave that punishment to humans, instead of doing it himself - simply send a thunderbolt onto him from the sky.

The real reasons for blasphemy laws is different. It is because mockery and satire and ridicule are powerful tools to change people's thoughts and make them question their beliefs. People who propogate a religion know that allowing others to mock them will make their job very difficult. When mockery is allowed, many people will start questioning what their religion taught them, and thinking is anathema to most religions. Losing religious reverance would also mean losing political power and influence. So lawmakers will do anything to prevent people from mocking the religion they are using to stay in power. That is the real reason for blasphemy laws.

So it's not a good law being abused by a few. It is an immoral and unjust law that has no proper use in the first place. Laws are made to protect people, not to protect gods. A god shouldn't need legal protection.
 
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You are saying that it is a just law that is abused by some people. I am saying that the law itself is unjust, immoral and ethically bankrupt. There is no "proper use" of a blasphemy law, as opposed to its misuse. That is why it is different from laws against theft or murder or rape, and that is why the comparison is flawed.

We need laws against murder or theft, because there are real, flesh and blood victims for such crimes. A victimless crime is not a criime at all. If somebody insults a god, it is upto god to punish him or her. Although, thinking even further, as I remarked earlier, why an all powerful and all knowing god would want to punish somebody for a verbal insut is also beyind me. I'm sure that a god worth his name (or a human being worth that name) will simply ignore silly insults.

The point is that blasphemy should not be a crime at all. Remember, many things that one religion teaches will be blasphemous to another religion. If you say "there is no god but allah", that could be considered as blasphemy to a polytheist. Should polytheists start arresting people who say "la illaha..."? No, of course not.

The old testament is very clear that blasphemers shall be stoned to death. Denying the holy ghost is an "eternal sin" and such a person "shall surely be put to death", according to the bible. That makes pretty much all non christians liable to be stoned to death. Would you want christian countries to follow that letter in law and spirit?

Now you may say that since pakistan is an islamic country, only blasphemy against islam or allah should be a crime. But even then, if you want to be really morally honest, and maintain intellectual integrity, you have to admit that it shoud not be a crime. It doesnt make sense for a god to want to punish people for such a harmless thing. It makes even less sense for that god to leave that punishment to humans, instead of doing it himself - simply send a thunderbolt onto him from the sky.

The real reasons for blasphemy laws is different. It is because mockery and satire and ridicule are powerful tools to change people's thoughts and make them question their beliefs. People who propogate a religion know that allowing others to mock them will make their job very difficult. When mockery is allowed, many people will start questioning what their religion taught them, and thinking is anathema to most religions. Losing religious reverance would also mean losing political power and influence. So lawmakers will do anything to prevent people from mocking the religion they are using to stay in power. That is the real reason for blasphemy laws.

So it's not a good law being abused by a few. It is an immoral and unjust law that has no proper use in the first place. Laws are made to protect people, not to protect gods. A god shouldn't need legal protection.


An incident comes to mind:

"The story related about this incident, mentions a neighbor of the Prophet (PBUH) that tried her best to irritate him by throwing garbage in his way every day. One day, when he (PBUH) walked out of his home there was no garbage. This made the Prophet (PBUH) inquire about the old woman and he came to know that she was sick. The Prophet (PBUH) went to visit her and offer any assistance she might need. The old woman was extremely humbled and at the same time ashamed of her actions in light of the concern that the Prophet (PBUH) showed her." \

Referred from here


So I ,myself, am unaware of where the Blasphemy Law comes from when the Prophet (PBUH) himself did not adhere to this concept. Forgiveness and mercy were his choice of weapons.

But if you look at Pakistan's case, you need to understand that repealing this Law is not as easy as it sounds. Removing it is simply unfeasible and would cause mayhem and chaos. Every brainless sheep would come out following their self-proclaimed saviour of Islam and wreak havoc and destruction on the country's infrastructure to "protest" against this act. As if they need any excuses to do it today, imagine their delight in getting the biggest excuse of them all. A nation-wide killing spree against the Ahmadis, Hindus and Christians would be the end result of such a move; a religious and ethnic cleansing.

If you say that the Law is unfair then that is your choice and I can not make you see otherwise. But I can not be expected to advocate something that would make Pakistan's situation even more precarious than it is today and put other communities and countless lives at risk. I know we should have thought of this before the Law was placed into effect, but what's done is done. Today, we can only find feasible and doable solutions that prevents such madness from taking over Pakistan.


PS: People expect Pakistan to do this and that, but I have yet to see people taking up anti-Muslims activities in the same way that they've taken up the Blasaphemy Law issue.
 
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No one can give him back all those years he spent behind bars for the crime he did not commit, what need to be done now is to compensate the poor guy with financial support & the one accused him should be punished.
 
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Indeed nothing can compensate for the misery and mental torture that individual went through during that time. No one can give him back the lost 6 years, but if a higher court has now found him "not-guilty" state is responsible to not only financially compensate him but also to try the people who wrongfully accused him and also disqualify the magistrate/judge of the lower court
who sentenced him. Sentencing someone a death penalty is not a joke.

There is nothing wrong with the Blasphemy law, Pakistan is an Islamic state and its parliament is free to draft and pass any law to protect our cultural and religious values in accordance with the wishes of general populace, however laws are made to protect people not to subject innocent people to be sentenced to death without proof and reason, and any law which lacks in control measures to safeguard against misuse in not a good law.

I am not fully cognizant of this law, but if it has any such clauses to prevent misuse with a false/wrongful intent then the culprits should also be tried under the same law.

As far as I know, in Islam wrong accusation of a person calls for the same punishment to the accuser, which the accused would have got if proven guilty.


Zarvan, you give his six years back.
 
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Man, if I could only get my hands on the person who came up with this stupid law. I'll MURDER him!
 
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I tend to largely agree. The blasphemy law has been misused continually and has been used as a weapon to frame innocent Christians and Hindus on false charges of blasphemy. We have to understand that there is a huge black elephant in the room which we are continually ignoring.

The people of Pakistan are not against minorities but the laws of Pakistan are indeed against minorities and these Zia era laws are a major menace for Pakistan. This law stands in the way of ensuring equal rights for all citizens. Both India and Pakistan are far from the best place to be a minority. Both countries need to work together to ensure protection of minorities locally.

@Zarvan there is something known as empathy. Men have spent entire years in jail because of the blasphemy law on false charges of blasphemy and have suffered unbearable torture. Workers in factories have burned Hindu workers because of this law and gotten away, people have cursed Christians and abused their faith and gotten away. The law is unfair and biased towards minorities
Mr for you information most who are convicted under this law are Muslims law of Zia time are not menace law of secular cartoons are destroying Pakistan and sir who ever will commit blasphemy will be taken out and if their will be no law than people will do it on their own because death to blasphemy is clear cut order in Quran and sunnah
 
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Mr for you information most who are convicted under this law are Muslims law of Zia time are not menace law of secular cartoons are destroying Pakistan and sir who ever will commit blasphemy will be taken out and if their will be no law than people will do it on their own because death to blasphemy is clear cut order in Quran and sunnah

Why are you not quoting the EXACT laws in Koran and Sunnah about Blasphemy?
Not once have you been able to say the exact laws. Nor can you explain the exact "scientific methods" prescribed by Koran and Sunnah to determine Blasphemy.
So is what you are saying just humbug/bakwaas?
 
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Why are you not quoting the EXACT laws in Koran and Sunnah about Blasphemy?
Not once have you been able to say the exact laws. Nor can you explain the exact "scientific methods" prescribed by Koran and Sunnah to determine Blasphemy.
So is what you are saying just humbug/bakwaas?
keep your mouth shut and read my previous posts and I have also quoted several times laws and why death for those who commit blasphemy
 
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keep your mouth shut and read my previous posts and I have also quoted several times laws and why death for those who commit blasphemy

You keep saying that but we never see any proof.

Im sure seeing you are so keen to kill people and so keen to prove your point you must be easily quote line and verse from the Quran where it says people drawing naughty cartoons must be taken out and killed.

No BS about how you already proved it your the one calling for murder you shold prove why the death of another is called for by Allah.

Not some quote about how the guy who lived next dor to the woman who fed the Prophets cat once heard some one say some thing.

Form the Quran where does it explicitly say you are judge jury and exicutioner of man kind. When did Allah pass up that role and pass it on to Zarvan?
 
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keep your mouth shut and read my previous posts and I have also quoted several times laws and why death for those who commit blasphemy

i guess most people don't get religion...i know next to nothing about islam....but here are my two cents :

You can take life as race...and this race is a really big one.There is no finish line..no matter how long you run..the only way to finish is death.Some people just want to jog,they want to observe other people run,they want to soak the environment next to them,for them there is no first prize or second..they just want to enjoy the race...these guys are my favourite...Atheist and liberals.Now some people want to win....they think that if i run this whole race according to the rules...doesn't matter which rules..every person in the race has his own rulebook...and in none are the rules clear..they are hazy but they all promise a reward at the end...now these people run the race in their own terms...they run hard..when they do see someone break a rule..they inform the refree or discuss with an equally hard running man and just move on..these are our conservative but yet tolerant society.Now comes the last group...these guys are real killers...they have literally memorized the rulebook..the rulebook was hazy...but they interpreted their own rules and had them memorized.When they see runner breaking a rule...they don't go on with their run..they say this guy has commited a foul (maybe all he was doing was following his own rulebook but it doesn't matter )..and he has to be punished because the rulebook says in a hazy manner that any guy breaking a rule will get punished...but it doesn't say when or where or how...so these guys get into vigilante mode...they surround the guy..they beat him into pulp..they hang him for breaking the rule...all the while the refree(god) watches on...Now this guy know the rules...this guy has written them...he watches the vigilantes sadly and with anger...he cant intervene untill the race finishes...how can he explain these ignorant fools that he has written each and every rulebook for each and every racer...he is perplexed when the so called vigillantes call out his name when carrying out the horrible deed....he wonders to himself that did they not read that one rule he inserted in every rulebook that Dont hurt the other racer.The race goes on..the vigilantes keep looking for rulebreakers...they have stopped running now...all they are doing now is looking...
 
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Punishment for Blasphemy in the Light of Religious Scriptures



Pakistan is the land of hot issues it would not be a false statement at all. Whether it is the religious, political, economic or social issues; Pakistan is the place you will find on top of all. Lately, the issue of blasphemy has arisen when a session court (lower court) sentence Asiya Bibi (who was Christian by faith) to death after finding her guilty her of sacrilegious comments.

The debate of repealing this law has come out of blue this time after 2-3 decades of legislation regarding. There are several opinions regarding this blasphemy act 295 (c) of the constitution of Islamic Republic of Pakistan. There are oodles of angles to this law, whether it be religious, democratic, political or human right.

We have gathered some evidences from the Quran, Hadith, Sunnah and history (compiled by historians) for the exact punishment for blasphemy. This will also answer the most asked question “What Muhammad (S.A.W) would have done?” “How he would have responded?” and many supplementary questions like “What Quran says?”, “Is there any evidence in Hadith?” and “What other religions say about blasphemy?”

Let’s start from a Quranic verse:

The above verse of Surah e Ahzab (Chapter 33:6) shows the right of a Allah’s Apostle Muhammad (S.A.W) on Muslims. It is clear from the word of GOD that Muhammad (S.A.W) has more right over our lives and closest of relations.

The following Reference of Holy Quran Chapter 4 V 65 was revealed when a man was beheaded by the Hazrat Umar (R.A) due to non compliance of judgment given by Holy prophet Mohammad (S.A.W).

Context of Revelation (Chapter 4, V 65):

Al-Hafiz Abu Ishaq Ibrahim bin `Abdur-Rahman bin Ibrahim bin Duhaym recorded that Damrah narrated that two men took their dispute to the Prophet , and he gave a judgment to the benefit of whoever among them had the right. The person who lost the dispute said, “I do not agree.” The other person asked him, “What do you want then” He said, “Let us go to Abu Bakr As-Siddiq.” They went to Abu Bakr and the person who won the dispute said, “We went to the Prophet with our dispute and he issued a decision in my favor.” Abu Bakr said, “Then the decision is that which theMessenger of Allah issued.” The person who lost the dispute still rejected the decision and said, “Let us go to `Umar bin Al-Khattab.” When they went to `Umar, the person who won the dispute said, “We took our dispute to the Prophet and he decided in my favor, but this man refused to submit to the decision.” `Umar bin Al-Khattab asked the second man and he concurred. `Umar went to his house and emerged from it holding aloft his sword. He struck the head of the man who rejected the Prophet’s decision with the sword and killed him.

Consequently, Allah revealed, the aforementioned verse.[Context taken from Tafseer Ibn-e-Kathir]

Let’s get to another verse where Allah (SWT) announces the punishment for enemies (of ALLAH and His Apostle) and who so ever attributes disgrace to Allah and His Apostle Mohammad (S.A.W).

May we present another verse from the Quran where Allah immediately answers to the sacrilegious comment made by the blood relative (uncle) of Allah’s Apostle Mohammad (S.A.W).

Context of Revelation

Abu Lahab (Father of Flame) was the nickname of ‘Abd Al-’Uzza, the Holy Prophet’s uncle and his inveterate enemy and persecutor. He was so called either because his complexion and hair were ruddy or also because he had a fiery temper. The Surah recalls an incident during the early preaching of the Holy Prophet (S.A.W). On being commanded by Allah (S.W.T) to call together his relatives and to deliver to them the Divine Message, the Holy Prophet, one day, stood on mount Safa and called the different Meccan (Makkah’s) tribes by name, the tribes of Luwayy, Murrah, Kilab and Qusayy and his near relatives, and told them that he is God’s Messenger, and that if they did not accept his Message and did not give up their evil ways, Divine punishment would overtake them. The Holy Prophet had hardly his speech, when Abu Lahab stood up and said, ‘Ruin seize thee, is it for this that thou hast called us together’ (Bukhari).

Another precedent from the Holy Quran where Allah (SWT) directly replied to Waleed bin Mughaira, who called Mohammad (S.A.W) Majnoon (Insane) by uncovering the hidden truth regarding his illegitimate birth upon him.

Now let’s move to the evidences from Hadiths.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 372:

Narrated Al-Bara:
Allah’s Apostle sent ‘Abdullah bin ‘Atik and ‘Abdullah bin ‘Utba with a group of men to Abu Rafi (to kill him). They proceeded till they approached his castle, whereupon Abdullah bin Atik said to them, “Wait (here), and in the meantime I will go and see.” ‘Abdullah said later on, “I played a trick in order to enter the castle. By chance, they lost a donkey of theirs and came out carrying a flaming light to search for it. I was afraid that they would recognize me, so I covered my head and legs and pretended to answer the call to nature. The gatekeeper called, ‘Whoever wants to come in, should come in before I close the gate.’ So I went in and hid myself in a stall of a donkey near the gate of the castle. They took their supper with Abu Rafi and had a chat till late at night. Then they went back to their homes. When the voices vanished and I no longer detected any movement, I came out. I had seen where the gate-keeper had kept the key of the castle in a hole in the wall. I took it and unlocked the gate of the castle, saying to myself, ‘If these people should notice me, I will run away easily.’ Then I locked all the doors of their houses from outside while they were inside, and ascended to Abu Rafi by a staircase. I saw the house in complete darkness with its light off, and I could not know where the man was. So I called, ‘O Abu Rafi!’ He replied, ‘Who is it?’ I proceeded towards the voice and hit him. He cried loudly but my blow was futile. Then I came to him, pretending to help him, saying with a different tone of my voice, ‘ What is wrong with you, O Abu Rafi?’ He said, ‘Are you not surprised? Woe on your mother! A man has come to me and hit me with a sword!’ So again I aimed at him and hit him, but the blow proved futile again, and on that Abu Rafi cried loudly and his wife got up. I came again and changed my voice as if I were a helper, and found Abu Rafi lying straight on his back, so I drove the sword into his belly and bent on it till I heard the sound of a bone break. Then I came out, filled with astonishment and went to the staircase to descend, but I fell down from it and got my leg dislocated. I bandaged it and went to my companions limping. I said (to them), ‘Go and tell Allah’s Apostle of this good news, but I will not leave (this place) till I hear the news of his (i.e. Abu Rafi’s) death.’ When dawn broke, an announcer of death got over the wall and announced, ‘I convey to you the news of Abu Rafi’s death.’ I got up and proceeded without feeling any pain till I caught up with my companions before they reached the Prophet to whom I conveyed the good news.”

At the conquest of Makkah:

Holy prophet Mohammad (S.A.W) announced general amnesty to all except those who were guilty of blasphemous acts and sacrilegious statements, Ibn e Khatal was one of the convict (Tareekh-e-Tabari Page 104 / History written by Al Tabari) This is evident from the following Hadith.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 582:

Narrated Anas bin Malik:

On the day of the Conquest, the Prophet entered Mecca, wearing a helmet on his head. When he took it off, a man came and said, “Ibn e Khatal is clinging to the curtain of the Ka’ba.” The Prophet said, “Kill him.”

Sahih Bukahri Volume 5, Book 59, Number 369:

Narrated Jabir bin ‘Abdullah:

Allah’s Apostle said, “Who is willing to kill Ka’b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?” Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, “O Allah’s Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?” The Prophet said, “Yes,” Muhammad bin Maslama said, “Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). “The Prophet said, “You may say it.” Then Muhammad bin Maslama went to Kab and said, “That man (i.e. Muhammad demands Sadaqa (i.e. Zakat) from us, and he has troubled us, and I have come to borrow something from you.” On that, Kab said, “By Allah, you will get tired of him!” Muhammad bin Maslama said, “Now as we have followed him, we do not want to leave him unless and until we see how his end is going to be. Now we want you to lend us a camel load or two of food.”

(Some difference between narrators about a camel load or two.) Kab said, “Yes, (I will lend you), but you should mortgage something to me.” Muhammad bin Mas-lama and his companion said, “What do you want?” Ka’b replied, “Mortgage your women to me.” They said, “How can we mortgage our women to you and you are the most handsome of the ‘Arabs?” Ka’b said, “Then mortgage your sons to me.” They said, “How can we mortgage our sons to you? Later they would be abused by the people’s saying that so-and-so has been mortgaged for a camel load of food. That would cause us great disgrace, but we will mortgage our arms to you. “Muhammad bin Maslama and his companion promised Kab that Muhammad would return to him. He came to Kab at night along with Kab’s foster brother, Abu Na’ila. Kab invited them to come into his fort, and then he went down to them. His wife asked him, “Where are you going at this time?” Kab replied, “None but Muhammad bin Maslama and my (foster) brother Abu Na’ila have come.”

His wife said, “I hear a voice as if dropping blood is from him, Ka’b said. “They are none but my brother Muhammad bin Maslama and my foster brother Abu Naila. A generous man should respond to a call at night even if invited to be killed.” Muhammad bin Maslama went with two men. (Some narrators mention the men as ‘Abu bin Jabr. Al Harith bin Aus and Abbad bin Bishr). So Muhammad bin Maslama went in together with two men, and sail to them, “When Ka’b comes, I will touch his hair and smell it, and when you see that I have got hold of his head, strip him. I will let you smell his head.” Kab bin Al-Ashraf came down to them wrapped in his clothes, and diffusing perfume. Muhammad bin Maslama said. “have never smelt a better scent than this. Ka’b replied. “I have got the best Arab women who know how to use the high class of perfume.” Muhammad bin Maslama requested Ka’b “Will you allow me to smell your head?” Ka’b said, “Yes.” Muhammad smelt it and made his companions smell it as well. Then he requested Ka’b again, “Will you let me (smell your head)?” Ka’b said, “Yes.” When Muhammad got a strong hold of him, he said (to his companions), “Get at him!” So they killed him and went to the Prophet and informed him. (Abu Rafi) was killed after Ka’b bin Al-Ashraf.”

Punishment in Bible for blasphemy:

The punishment for blasphemy in most of the major religions is death. It is stated in the Old Testament of the Bible, which is the authority for both the Jews and the Christians:

And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: [Book of Leviticus 24:16]

A reference from Hindu Scripture:

“If a man born of a lower class intentionally bothers a priest, the king should punish him physically with various forms of corporal and capital punishment that make men shudder.” [Manusmriti 9:248]

Conclusion:

It is evident from the above references that the punishment for the act of blasphemy in any religion or any form is very severe. Hence, people who are waging a campaign against the article 295 (c) of the constitution to repeal the said law, is not aligned with Islamic, Christianity and Hinduism religious law.

The current law is compliant with the ethical and moral values of society Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

In a nutshell, this law should stay in place to prevent blasphemous acts. But by no means,anyone should be allowed to use this law for personal vendetta or misuse it. Procedural changes should be made with the consent of Ulema to prevent the misuse of the underlying law.

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Punishment for Blasphemy in the Light of Religious Scriptures | I'm No Superman!

Secondly, I am hearing much from the liberals about the blasphemy law and that it is a man made law which has no basis in Islam. This is disappointing and clearly demonstrates a poor understanding of something which they claim to know much about.

I have therefore, for the purposes of education only, listed below some evidences below on this sensitive issue. This is not exhaustive but shows that the blasphemy law is not as clear as the liberals make it out to be.

IN NO WAY AM I SAYING THAT WHAT MALIK QADRI DID IS RIGHT. THIS IS ULTIMATELY FOR THE LEGAL SYSTEM TO DEAL WITH. IT SHOULD BE THE COURT WHICH HANDS DOWN THE PUNISHMENT AND NOT THE CITIZEN'S OF THE STATE.

THE POSITION ON BLASPHEMY

The scholars are unanimously agreed that a Muslim who insults the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) becomes a kaafir and an apostate who is to be executed. This consensus was narrated by more than one of the scholars, such as Imaam Ishaaq ibn Raahawayh, Ibn al-Mundhir, al-Qaadi ‘Iyaad, al-Khattaabi and others. Al-Saarim al-Maslool, 2/13-16

This ruling is indicated by the Qur’aan and Sunnah.

In the Qur’aan it says (interpretation of the meaning):

“The hypocrites fear lest a Soorah (chapter of the Qur’aan) should be revealed about them, showing them what is in their hearts. Say: ‘(Go ahead and) mock! But certainly Allaah will bring to light all that you fear.’

If you ask them (about this), they declare: ‘We were only talking idly and joking.’ Say: ‘Was it at Allaah, and His Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and His Messenger that you were mocking?’

Make no excuse; you disbelieved after you had believed”

[al-Tawbah 9:64-66]

This verse clearly states that mocking Allaah, His verses and His Messenger constitutes kufr, so that applies even more so to insulting. The verse also indicates that whoever belittles the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is also a kaafir, whether he was serious or joking.

With regard to the Sunnah, Abu Dawood (4362) narrated from ‘Ali that a Jewish woman used to insult the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and say bad things about him, so a man strangled her until she died, and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) ruled that no blood money was due in this case.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said in al-Saarim al-Maslool (1/162): This hadeeth is jayyid, and there is a corroborating report in the hadeeth of Ibn ‘Abbaas which we will quote below.

This hadeeth clearly indicates that it was permissible to kill that woman because she used to insult the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

Abu Dawood (4361) narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas that a blind man had a freed concubine (umm walad) who used to insult the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and say bad things about him. He told her not to do that but she did not stop, and he rebuked her but she did not heed him. One night, when she started to say bad things about the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and insult him, he took a short sword or dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it and killed her. The following morning that was mentioned to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). He called the people together and said, “I adjure by Allah the man who has done this action and I adjure him by my right over him that he should stand up.” The blind man stood up and said, “O Messenger of Allaah, I am the one who did it; she used to insult you and say bad things about you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not give up her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was kind to me. Last night she began to insult you and say bad things about you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her.” Thereupon the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Bear witness, there is no blood money due for her.”

(Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood, 3655)

It seems that this woman was a kaafir, not a Muslim, for a Muslim could never do such an evil action. If she was a Muslim she would have become an apostate by this action, in which case it would not have been permissible for her master to keep her; in that case it would not have been good enough if he were to keep her and simply rebuke her.

Al-Nasaa’i narrated (4071) that Abu Barzah al-Aslami said: A man spoke harshly to Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq and I said, ‘Shall I kill him?’ He rebuked me and said, ‘That is not for anyone after the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) .’” (Saheeh al-Nasaa’i, 3795)

It may be noted from this that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had the right to kill whoever insulted him and spoke harshly to him, and that included both Muslims and kaafirs.

The second issue is: if a person who insulted the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) repents, should his repentance be accepted or not?

The scholars are agreed that if such a person repents sincerely and regrets what he has done, this repentance will benefit him on the Day of Resurrection and Allaah will forgive him.

But they differed as to whether his repentance should be accepted in this world and whether that means he is no longer subject to the sentence of execution.

Maalik and Ahmad were of the view that it should not be accepted, and that he should be killed even if he has repented.

They quoted as evidence the Sunnah and proper understanding of the ahaadeeth:

In the Sunnah, Abu Dawood (2683) narrated that Sa’d ibn Abi Waqqaas said: “On the Day of the Conquest of Makkah, the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) granted safety to the people except for four men and two women, and he named them, and Ibn Abi Sarh… As for Ibn Abi Sarh, he hid with ‘Uthmaan ibn ‘Affaan, and when the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) called the people to give their allegiance to him, he brought him to stand before the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). He said, “O Prophet of Allaah, accept the allegiance of ‘Abd-Allaah.” He raised his head and looked at him three times, refusing him, then he accepted his allegiance after the third time. Then he turned to his companions and said: “Was there not among you any smart man who could have got up and killed this person when he saw me refusing to give him my hand and accept his allegiance?” They said, “We do not know what is in your heart, O Messenger of Allaah. Why did you not gesture to us with your eyes?” He said, “It is not befitting for a Prophet to betray a person with a gesture of his eyes.”

(Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood, 2334)

This clearly indicates that in a case such as this apostate who had insulted the Prophet (S), it is not obligatory to accept his repentance, rather it is permissible to kill him even if he comes repentant.

‘Abd-Allaah ibn Sa’d was one of those who used to write down the Revelation, then he apostatized and claimed that he used to add whatever he wanted to the Revelation. This was a lie and a fabrication against the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and it was a kind of insult. Then he became Muslim again and was a good Muslim, may Allaah be pleased with him. Al-Saarim 115.

With regard to proper understanding of the ahaadeeth:

They said that insulting the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) has to do with two rights, the right of Allaah and the right of a human being. With regard to the right of Allaah, this is obvious, because it is casting aspersions upon His Message, His Book and His Religion. As for the right of a human being, this is also obvious, because it is like trying to slander the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) by this insult. In a case which involves both the rights of Allaah and the rights of a human being, the rights of the human beings are not dropped when the person repents, as in the case of the punishment for banditry, because if the bandit has killed someone, that means that he must be executed and crucified. But if he repents before he is caught, then the right of Allaah over him, that he should be executed and crucified, no longer applies, but the rights of other humans with regard to qisaas (retaliatory punishment) still stand. The same applies in this case. If the one who insulted the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) repents, then the rights of Allaah no longer apply, but there remains the right of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), which still stand despite his repentance.

If it is said, “Can we not forgive him, because during his lifetime the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forgave many of those who had insulted him and he did not execute them?” The answer is:

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) sometimes chose to forgive those who had insulted him, and sometimes he ordered that they should be executed, if that served a greater purpose. But now his forgiveness is impossible because he is dead, so the execution of the one who insults him remains the right of Allaah, His Messenger and the believers, and the one who deserves to be executed cannot be let off, so the punishment must be carried out.

Al-Saarim al-Maslool, 2/438

Insulting the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is one of the worst of forbidden actions, and it constitutes kufr and apostasy from Islam, according to scholarly consensus, whether done seriously or in jest. The one who does that is to be executed even if he repents and whether he is a Muslim or a kaafir. If he repents sincerely and regrets what he has done, this repentance will benefit him on the Day of Resurrection and Allaah will forgive him.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) wrote a valuable book on this matter, entitled al-Saarim al-Maslool ‘ala Shaatim al-Rasool which every believer should read, especially in these times when a lot of hypocrites and heretics dare to insult the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) because they see that the Muslims are careless and feel little protective jealousy towards their religion and their Prophet, and they do not implement the shar’i punishment which would deter these people and their ilk from committing this act of blatant kufr.

And Allaah knows best. May Allaah send blessings and peace upon our Prophet Muhammad and all his family and companions
 
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keep your mouth shut and read my previous posts and I have also quoted several times laws and why death for those who commit blasphemy

You have not quoted any laws or given any explanation of "scientific methods" in Koran and Sunnah to define Blasphemy or how to determine Blasphemy. Do that first. Again I challenge you to give specific refences to clauses or laws in Koran and Sunnah that deal with how to define and determine Blasphemy.
Go on, show me the evidence and explanation for your claims.
 
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@Zarvan imagine the following situation...

You are a poor Christian mehnatkash working in brick kilns all day. One day to frame you on false charges and get you out of the way a neighbour files a blasphemy case against you. Where will you go, what will you do? You will end up 15 years in jail being beaten up by prison guards. Think about this--- and all of it on false charges so your neighbour could grab your land.

Zarvan I know how it feels when someone blames you for something you did not do. It is not pleasant. Please be objective and critical and think of things as the other person. By putting ourselves in someone elses shoes can we see what a person feels and thinks.
 
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@Zarvan imagine the following situation...

You are a poor Christian mehnatkash working in brick kilns all day. One day to frame you on false charges and get you out of the way a neighbour files a blasphemy case against you. Where will you go, what will you do? You will end up 15 years in jail being beaten up by prison guards. Think about this--- and all of it on false charges so your neighbour could grab your land.

Zarvan I know how it feels when someone blames you for something you did not do. It is not pleasant. Please be objective and critical and think of things as the other person. By putting ourselves in someone elses shoes can we see what a person feels and thinks.

Sir that is why death punishment is also suggested for those who falsely accuse some one but no body would be allowed to commit blasphemy if government will not do anything than people will take them out

You have not quoted any laws or given any explanation of "scientific methods" in Koran and Sunnah to define Blasphemy or how to determine Blasphemy. Do that first. Again I challenge you to give specific refences to clauses or laws in Koran and Sunnah that deal with how to define and determine Blasphemy.
Go on, show me the evidence and explanation for your claims.
Mr I have told you and told you several times you are either not in you have some brain issues or just trolling read all of my previous posts
 
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Wow! This just gets better and better. Thank "God" for the long weekend.

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