Cost of Comac C-919

[XTREME]

Hi!

What is the unit cost of Comac C-919?

And could I have the specifications of Comac C-929 & Comac C-939 please, if available?

Thank you!

 

[Icewolf]

Do you want to buy one?

 

[XTREME]

Do you want to buy one?

lol! I just wanna know it's price.

 

[twocents]

I haven't anything about its price. All I know is that C-919 is scheduled to roll out in 2014 and go into service in 2016.

 

[eachus]

C919 is 150-190 seat commercial jet, 20% cheaper than Boeing and Airbus same class jet plans. C919 is more advance in design, more fuel efficient and is inch bigger size per seat, more comfortable for passages. once C919 enters service, its customers are not only airline, also expect air-force orders.

 

[XTREME]

C919 is 150-190 seat commercial jet, 20% cheaper than Boeing and Airbus same class jet plans. C919 is more advance in design, more fuel efficient and is inch bigger size per seat, more comfortable for passages. once C919 enters service, its customers are not only airline, also expect air-force orders.

Alright!

So, if compared to A-320 88.3 m $ then C919 would be of 70 m $ . Thanx

 

[Martian2]

Obviously a Chinese ripoff of the A320 would be cheaper than the A320. They can just steal the schematics from Airbus and piece the puzzle together with blueprints from Boeing, assembling it using foreign parts and free Chinese labor. At the end of the day, do you really want to sit in a Made-in-China plane? Even their toilets can explode. The only thing that doesn't explode in China is their explosives. Flying yourself 2000 meters high with a Chinese plane is worse bet than the local casino. Just look at how their German high speed rail rip off exploded after 2 months of induction.

You're still slandering China after two years. Give it a rest. Anybody can rant.

I haven't seen a single worthwhile military analysis from you during the two years that you've been here.

You make it sound as if other countries never have train accidents. Show me a country with ZERO train accidents.

For your information, there were 1,023 train accident in Canada last year (see citation below). That's over 3 accidents per day. Do you see me jumping up and down like a monkey and slandering Canada or Canadian trains?

A more reasonable observation is to note the millions of Chinese passengers, who were safely transported last year on its expanding HSR (high speed rail) network, and that the fatalities per millions-of-passenger-miles are among the lowest in the world.

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Source: Transportation Safety Board of Canada

http://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/stats/rail/prelim-2011/index.asp

"2011 Rail Annual Statistics - Highlights

A total of 1,023 rail accidents under federal jurisdiction were reported to the TSB in 2011, a 5% decrease from the 2010 total of 1,076 and a 15% decrease from the 2006-2010 average of 1,198.

Rail activity1 (as measured by million train-miles) is estimated to have increased 1.3% from 2010 but decreased 3.6% from the five-year average. The accident rate is 12 accidents per million train-miles in 2011, compared to 12.8 in 2010 and the five-year rate of 13.6.

Rail-related fatalities totaled 71 in 2011, compared to 81 in 2010 and to the five-year average of 81.

In 2011, a total of 204 rail incidents were reported under the TSB mandatory reporting requirements, up from 160 in 2010 but comparable to the five-year average of 205.

[1] Activity data source: : Transport Canada"

 

[Martian2]

China ranks first in the world for rail safety

Comparative Rail Safety | Pedestrian Observations

"Comparative Rail Safety
Posted on 2011/06/02

Using Wikipedia’s list of rail crashes and its UIC-sourced list of rail passenger-km by country, one can compare different countries’ mainline passenger rail accident fatality rates. The US turns out to be the least safe among the regions I’ve checked, even worse than India; much-maligned China comes out first.

I constructed the list below by averaging accident rates going back to 1991, to smooth out fluctuations coming from low-frequency, high-impact disasters. Crashes involving only freight trains are ignored, and pedestrians and car and bus passengers struck by passenger trains are included. Bombings are excluded, but sabotage incidents leading to accidents are included.

China: 876.22 billion passenger-km/year, 317 deaths over 20 years. This is one death per 55.3 billion passenger-km.

Japan: the UIC claims 253.55 billion passenger-km/year, which only includes JR companies. Figures including private railroads and excluding subways range from 360 to 395.9 billion passenger-km; I believe the higher number since it is slightly less dated. Over 20 years there have been 154 deaths, so this is one death per 51.4 billion passenger-km. Including subways would put Japan on a par with China.

EU-27: 386.24 billion passenger-km/year (presumably mainline only), 603 mainline deaths over 20 years. This does not include 155 deaths from a fire on a funicular. This is one death per 12.8 billion passenger-km, or 1 per 10.2 billion if the funicular fire is included. This varies a lot by country: the safest European countries, such as France and the Netherlands, are on a par with China and Japan, but the EU average is pulled down by Germany (due to Eschede) and the periphery.

South Korea: 31.3 billion passenger-km/year, 93 deaths over 20 years. This is one death per 6.7 billion passenger-km. Here the mainline-only rule is a problem because a) the Seoul subway is even more integrated with commuter rail than the Tokyo subway, and b) a subway fire in Daegu killed 198 people.

India: 838.03 billion passenger-km/year, 2,556 deaths over 20 years. This is one death per 6.6 billion passenger-km.

US: 27.26 billion passenger-km/year (both Amtrak and commuter rail), 159 deaths over 20 years. Note the rate is more than twice that of China per capita, let alone per rail passenger. This is one death per 3.4 billion passenger-km.

For comparison, the US road network has 33,000 accident deaths and 7.35 trillion passenger-km per year, which is one death per 220 million passenger-km.

On a closing note, China not only has the safest passenger trains, but also by far the busiest tracks. Freight density beats that of the US and Russia and passenger density beats that of any European country."

 

[Luftwaffe]

Obviously a Chinese ripoff of the A320 would be cheaper than the A320. They can just steal the schematics from Airbus and piece the puzzle together with blueprints from Boeing, assembling it using foreign core components and free Chinese labor. At the end of the day, do you really want to sit in a Made-in-China plane? Even their toilets can explode. The only thing that doesn't explode in China is their explosives. Flying yourself 35,000 ft high with something designed by Chinese is a worse bet than buying Chinese food (which is often poisonous). Just look at how their Franco-German high speed rail ripoff exploded after 2 months of induction.

What do you suggest, China should not build an Air Liner. What do you know about aeronautical engineering and aerospace work.
Remember Canadian Bombardier Dash 8 Crashes. I think you needs to Ask Pakistan Air Force that operates Chinese Aircraft how reliable they have been over the decades. How do you assume C-919 will fail, do you have Data to suggest. Where did Chinese food and explosives and Trains come into Aviation related Thread.

Contribute positively otherwise I am going to report you for pussyfooting in every Chinese Thread, be civilized act civilized.