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JAKARTA - Indonesia has estimated that the number of people who have had possible contact with Covid-19 suspects to be at more than half a million, the authorities said on Friday (March 20), as the government started rapid testing for the virus on its population.

This “high risk” group of between 600,000 and 700,000 people are scattered across the country, with South Jakarta being the worst-hit, the authorities said.

Earlier President Joko Widodo in a statement broadcast live on national television had said Indonesia started rapid testing for the virus on Friday afternoon, .

“We are doing it in areas based on our contact tracing of the (coronavirus) patients. We are going door-to-door to test people,” Mr Joko said. “The result of our mapping indicates the hardest-hit area is South Jakarta.” He did not disclose the other locations.

Indonesia, , the world’s fourth most populous country, with a 270 million population, is catching up with testing its citizens who might be carrying the coronavirus infections as the government faces mounting criticism for being slow in detecting infections. Indonesia announced its first two cases of coronavirus on March 2.

There have been several cases where patients with pneumonia were only detected to have had the coronavirus after they passed away, or just a day prior to their deaths.

Mr Achmad Yurianto, the government spokesman for the management of Covid-19, the disease caused by the virus, told a media briefing on Friday that the country had 60 fresh cases, bringing the total infections to 369 as per Friday.

Total deaths rose by 7 to 32, the highest death tally in South-east Asia.

Seventeen patients have recovered.

Meanwhile, the head of the country’s Red Cross told Reuters that Indonesia is likely to have a far higher number of coronavirus cases than it has reported, due to low levels of testing and needs to consider tougher measures like lockdowns.

The world’s fourth-most populous country has gone from zero reported cases to 309 in less than three weeks and the death toll has hit 25, higher than any other South-east Asian country.

“If the tests are low, then the cases are low,” said Mr Jusuf Kalla, a former two-term vice-president of Indonesia and chairman of the country’s Red Cross, adding that the true number of cases should be revealed once Indonesia gets more test results from laboratories to step up testing.
 
Indonesia is really hot anyways ... I don't think the virus can be easily transmitted there
 
Indonesia is really hot anyways ... I don't think the virus can be easily transmitted there
The temperature inside the lungs is around 37 C. Outer temperature will be around 25 - 30 C for tropical climate. I don't think Virus dies at normal temperatures.
 
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/s...use-all-powers-to-tackle-health-economic-woes

JAKARTA - Indonesia has estimated that the number of people who have had possible contact with Covid-19 suspects to be at more than half a million, the authorities said on Friday (March 20), as the government started rapid testing for the virus on its population.

This “high risk” group of between 600,000 and 700,000 people are scattered across the country, with South Jakarta being the worst-hit, the authorities said.

Earlier President Joko Widodo in a statement broadcast live on national television had said Indonesia started rapid testing for the virus on Friday afternoon, .

“We are doing it in areas based on our contact tracing of the (coronavirus) patients. We are going door-to-door to test people,” Mr Joko said. “The result of our mapping indicates the hardest-hit area is South Jakarta.” He did not disclose the other locations.

Indonesia, , the world’s fourth most populous country, with a 270 million population, is catching up with testing its citizens who might be carrying the coronavirus infections as the government faces mounting criticism for being slow in detecting infections. Indonesia announced its first two cases of coronavirus on March 2.

There have been several cases where patients with pneumonia were only detected to have had the coronavirus after they passed away, or just a day prior to their deaths.

Mr Achmad Yurianto, the government spokesman for the management of Covid-19, the disease caused by the virus, told a media briefing on Friday that the country had 60 fresh cases, bringing the total infections to 369 as per Friday.

Total deaths rose by 7 to 32, the highest death tally in South-east Asia.

Seventeen patients have recovered.

Meanwhile, the head of the country’s Red Cross told Reuters that Indonesia is likely to have a far higher number of coronavirus cases than it has reported, due to low levels of testing and needs to consider tougher measures like lockdowns.

The world’s fourth-most populous country has gone from zero reported cases to 309 in less than three weeks and the death toll has hit 25, higher than any other South-east Asian country.

“If the tests are low, then the cases are low,” said Mr Jusuf Kalla, a former two-term vice-president of Indonesia and chairman of the country’s Red Cross, adding that the true number of cases should be revealed once Indonesia gets more test results from laboratories to step up testing.

That is not what the Presiden said. Strait Times is making its own interpretation over the effort government make to contain the outbreak by doing rapid test to Jakarta region. Those 500.000 test kit is prepared for that rapid test. Similar thing happen in South Korea, with that logic, the amount of rapid test South Korea have will be equal with corona virus infection, which is not true.

Indonesia is really hot anyways ... I don't think the virus can be easily transmitted there

This period is not that hot anyway, particularly in Jakarta. Rain and huge cloud are every where. The mass infection if that really happen IMO is still not that large since the death toll is still relatively low at 32 people and 300 patient treated for corona related symptom.
 
That is not what the Presiden said. Strait Times is making its own interpretation over the effort government make to contain the outbreak by doing rapid test to Jakarta region. Those 500.000 test kit is prepared for that rapid test. Similar thing happen in South Korea, with that logic, the amount of rapid test South Korea have will be equal with corona virus infection, which is not true.



This period is not that hot anyway, particularly in Jakarta. Rain and huge cloud are every where. The mass infection if that really happen IMO is still not that large since the death toll is still relatively low at 32 people and 300 patient treated for corona related symptom.

Realistically, if 32 are dead already probably the infected number is at least 1000 even with 3% mortality. In truth the number is probably much higher.

Sad to see a hard working nation like Indonesia, descend to populist stupidity in the last decade.
 
Realistically, if 32 are dead already probably the infected number is at least 1000 even with 3% mortality. In truth the number is probably much higher.

Sad to see a hard working nation like Indonesia, descend to populist stupidity in the last decade.

What do you mean with populist stupidity happening in Indonesia ?

It is right though in term of economy as populist policy is used in labor law and oil subsidy during Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono administration but current government tried to fix that dumb policy.
 
What do you mean with populist stupidity happening in Indonesia ?

It is right though in term of economy as populist policy is used in labor law and oil subsidy during Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono administration but current government tried to fix that dumb policy.
What do you mean with populist stupidity happening in Indonesia ?

It is right though in term of economy as populist policy is used in labor law and oil subsidy during Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono administration but current government tried to fix that dumb policy.

The was another thread here about massive tableeghi gatherings in this time - that's the populist stupidity in referring to.
 
The was another thread here about massive tableeghi gatherings in this time - that's the populist stupidity in referring to.

That gathering has been cancelled and all the participant that have already come from abroad for the gathering are carantined in a hotel and will be sent back to their origin countries.
 
That gathering has been cancelled and all the participant that have already come from abroad for the gathering are carantined in a hotel and will be sent back to their origin countries.

You are minimising situation unnecessarily. In fact, the situation is quite out of control when you look at the numbers involved. The large population, number of deaths, number of contacts suspected are quite revealing.

With Indonesian links to China and Umrah pilgrimage, they should have been a lot more stringent from when hajj was closed or even earlier.
 
You are minimising situation unnecessarily. In fact, the situation is quite out of control when you look at the numbers involved. The large population, number of deaths, number of contacts suspected are quite revealing.

With Indonesian links to China and Umrah pilgrimage, they should have been a lot more stringent from when hajj was closed or even earlier.

Dont just believe on what Strait Times wrote. 500,000 rapid test that we are going to do doesnt mean we see there are 500.000 contact suspected. It is a precaution measure that we do to contain the outbreak within the high risk area particularly in South Jakarta, similar thing happen in South Korea and Turkey.
 
The temperature inside the lungs is around 37 C. Outer temperature will be around 25 - 30 C for tropical climate. I don't think Virus dies at normal temperatures.

I agree with you on this... It's pretty logical but surfaces temperatures under direct sunlight can reach 60 deg, so that's the only bonus for tropical countries. If its indoors and in ambient air, I guess it can spread
 
It could be and not.

If the number that high, there will already a lot of people die because of pneumonia, at least hundreds to thousands of people die.

No one will not take notice, and the rumors will be spread widely in social media.

But so far it's fine...


But don't be so happy...

With the current situation, where people are still doing their normal activity...

The number will reach 500 thousand very soon and beyond.


Just see the case of H1N1 in USA in 2009.

The number of infected people...
 
I agree with you on this... It's pretty logical but surfaces temperatures under direct sunlight can reach 60 deg, so that's the only bonus for tropical countries. If its indoors and in ambient air, I guess it can spread
60 C is hot, I don't think we touch any surface that has 60 C surface temperature for too long. Most places we touch are not under direct sunlight.
 
I agree with you on this... It's pretty logical but surfaces temperatures under direct sunlight can reach 60 deg, so that's the only bonus for tropical countries. If its indoors and in ambient air, I guess it can spread

It is a wrong assumption. It is not about how cold / hot the temperature is, but more of ultra violet penetration to the area. That's why you see that hospitals use ultra violet to clean the area from viruses, bacteria. But we don't use ultra violet for personal use, because ultra violet is also bad for human body.

Right now, Indonesia has less access-ability to the sun, because of rainy season. The sky is cloudy around here.
 
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