Coordinated Terror Wave Accross Country

[YeBeWarned]

Iran and Indian nexus at best , Since the Bukhari's and Bajwa's are in office they will let innocent Pakistani death slide under their extensions and corruption .. Aur Bajwa Bajwa karo

 

[Irfan Baloch]

May be I am wrong, but someone told me sectarian violence alert or extreme activity on social media to heat up sectarian issue in Pakistan.

its a small part of bigger plan.
add ethic issues, punjabi vs pathan vs baloch vs urdu speaking violence planned too

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

It's ironic that the biggest fans of terrorist ideology in our political spectrum (JUI-F)

@Irfan Baloch @AgNoStiC MuSliM Doesn't this sentence comes under sectarianism considering JUIF follows Deoband Sect.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

@Irfan Baloch @AgNoStiC MuSliM Doesn't this sentence comes under sectarianism considering JUIF follows Deoband Sect.

He’s criticizing an organization, not the entire community.

So, for example, most members of the Liwa Zainabiyoun or SSP/LEJ or SM are Shia or Sunni - that doesn’t mean the entire Shia or Sunni community is being attacked or criticized as a sect.

Criticizing an organization or regime (Iranian regime or GCC regimes or Turkish government) is acceptable, but it should turn into criticizing all Iranians, Arabs, Turks etc.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

He’s criticizing an organization, not the entire community.

So, for example, most members of the Liwa Zainabiyoun or SSP/LEJ or SM are Shia or Sunni - that doesn’t mean the entire Shia or Sunni community is being attacked or criticized as a sect.

One particular organization is being criticized.

But if I criticized a Shia Political organization of Pakistan which has its members in Parliament and say they support a terrorist 'ideology' would that be okay?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

But if I criticized a Shia Political organization of Pakistan which has its members in Parliament and say they support a terrorist 'ideology' would that be okay?

Such as?

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Such as?

Such as MWM. It doesn't have any seats in NA but have 2 seats in GB Assembly

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Such as MWM. It doesn't have any seats in NA but have 2 seats in GB Assembly

You can criticize MWM for its actions and policies, like the poster did for JUI-F (I don’t agree with that particular criticism necessarily).

He didn’t say ‘Deobandi political organization JUI-F’, he just said JUI-F.

The JUI-F is not a representative of all Pakistani Deobandis just like the MWM is not representative of all Pakistani Shia.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

for its actions and policies

He mentioned ideology

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

He mentioned ideology

Did he say that Deobandis are a terrorist ideology?

Ask him to clarify what he meant instead of assuming, and if there is an issue then report the post and let the moderators handle it.

And this isn't some childish contest where if X does Y you have to also do Y.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

@Irfan Baloch @AgNoStiC MuSliM Doesn't this sentence comes under sectarianism considering JUIF follows Deoband Sect.

not really to be honest. they are a religious political party and Molana Sahib never presents himself as a Deoband party.

being a registered political party that contests elections blocks roads and criticises other political parties it is only fair that it gets criticised for its words and actions.

I have Deobandi family and friends and they never seen Fazl Rehman as representing their faith.

He mentioned ideology

I understand but he didnt call them.out for their faith but instead called out the so called secular parties PPP and MQM.

Fazl sahib once justified Al qaeda and TT no? was not very thrilled with idea of merging tribal areas with settled Pakistan
it was a political stand.

the terrorist ideology is that of TTP and Al Qaeda..... NOT JUI F and its members.

Please read again brother. I get it that poster must have written clearly but I read his post many times and decided


the criticsm is on PPP and MQM despite being secular

the terrorist ideology is that of Al Qaeda and its pakistani versions that took arms against state of Pakistan

JUI F only took a political view of opposing our support of American war on terror and in early 2000s sided with a radical sentiment in the society specially to oppose Musharraf.

I see JUI F chief as a shrewd and skilled politician who knows what stance to take. it has nothing to do with our respected Deobandi brothers in faith.

if still not happy I can take it in private conversation.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

not really to be honest. they are a religious political party and Molana Sahib never presents himself as a Deoband party.

being a registered political party that contests elections blocks roads and criticises other political parties it is only fair that it gets criticised for its words and actions.

I have Deobandi family and friends and they never seen Fazl Rehman as representing their faith.


I understand but he didnt call them.out for their faith but instead called out the so called secular parties PPP and MQM.

Fazl sahib once justified Al qaeda and TT no? was not very thrilled with idea of merging tribal areas with settled Pakistan
it was a political stand.

the terrorist ideology is that of TTP and Al Qaeda..... NOT JUI F and its members.

Please read again brother. I get it that poster must have written clearly but I read his post many times and decided


the criticsm is on PPP and MQM despite being secular

the terrorist ideology is that of Al Qaeda and its pakistani versions that took arms against state of Pakistan

JUI F only took a political view of opposing our support of American war on terror and in early 2000s sided with a radical sentiment in the society specially to oppose Musharraf.

I see JUI F chief as a shrewd and skilled politician who knows what stance to take. it has nothing to do with our respected Deobandi brothers in faith.

if still not happy I can take it in private conversation.

Its Okay. Thank You

 

[313ghazi]

@Irfan Baloch @AgNoStiC MuSliM Doesn't this sentence comes under sectarianism considering JUIF follows Deoband Sect.

It comes under facts. JUI-F has a long standing association with terrorist groups. It has it's own militant wing which GoP banned.

Read a little, plenty of evidence of their association;

https://www.ctc.usma.edu/militants-turn-against-pakistans-jui-f-islamist-party/
https://fas.org/irp/world/para/jem.htm
https://fas.org/irp/world/para/hum.htm

Google is your friend.

Yet despite such associations, i don't think JUI-F has ever contributed directly towards terrorism like PPP and MQM.

It comes under facts. JUI-F has a long standing association with terrorist groups. It has it's own militant wing which GoP banned.

Read a little, plenty of evidence of their association;

https://www.ctc.usma.edu/militants-turn-against-pakistans-jui-f-islamist-party/
https://fas.org/irp/world/para/jem.htm
https://fas.org/irp/world/para/hum.htm

Google is your friend.

Yet despite such associations, i don't think JUI-F has ever contributed directly towards terrorism like PPP and MQM.

Also ideology is strictly political. JUI-F is an islamist party and these terrorist groups are violent islamists. There is somewhat of a cross over in politics. It has nothing to do with deobandism. I don't make sectarian posts.

 

[Thamizh Puli]

sad - even as some posters here start the introspection and start talking about what Pakistan has to change in its mind set and action, others come in and start deflecting the blame to India. This has been why Pakistan has not been able shake of terrorism.

 

[alphapak]

Very good point. Just because he wasn't linked directly with internal terrorists, he was directly linked with external enemies.

Dont forget about those Indian engineers who were working in Mota Nawaja's
sugar mills, they had visa's to travel anywhere in Pakistan.

Both Nawaz and Zardari were not only corrupt but traitors as well. But they
got away with it, Pak Army and ISI are too soft on traitors.