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Christianization and Salafization of Bangladesh through NGO charities

Christian conversions are taking place mainly in Evangelist Church run orphanages in cities, towns and rural areas. Thousands open every year and recruit young kids mainly from the Muslim community. Poor Muslim families sometimes give their kids to live there, because of better food security and education for the kids. In the process, not only the kids become Christians, when they grow up in few years, they bring in their parents and change their religion as well.

This is what happens when as a people we are not able to take care of our poor, they change their loyalty to anyone who can help them. Lanat on all so called Muslim Bangladeshi's who do not care about the sacred Amanat Allah (SWT) has given them in this landmass called Bangladesh and allowing their brothers to convert to other religion out of neglect and callousness.

At the minimum, the govt. should make illegal all religious NGO's and ban their activities in the country. And where is Jamat and Hefajot and all other so called religion based parties, what are they doing about these vital religious issues that may change Bangladeshi demographic forever?
 
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At the minimum, the govt. should make illegal all religious NGO's and ban their activities in the country.

If someone is helping the poor and expect faith in return, what is wrong with that? If they are forcing conversions or such conversions lead to long term threat to the country, that's a different story. Indians seem to be obsessed with this too.
 
If someone is helping the poor and expect faith in return, what is wrong with that? If they are forcing conversions or such conversions lead to long term threat to the country, that's a different story. Indians seem to be obsessed with this too.

Conversion Tactics - Charity

Conversion Tactics
Charitable Allurement

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Missionaries take advantage of those in need,
especially the poor and children, to convert them


Most Missionary organizations disguise their conversion efforts as charity organization. Often in the press, we hear about “faith-based initiatives” but that is just a euphemism for aggressive and violent conversion organizations. In the Western media, Missionaries are portrayed as true saviors who feed the hungry and nurse the sick.

However, Missionaries do not do this for the good of humanity, but instead to convert people to Christianity. Missionaries have also decided to target the poorest for conversions, not because they are the neediest, but rather, because they can be easily bribed into changing their faith, and they can not easily report to the press the atrocities which the Missionaries have inflicted upon them.

Some people wonder fail to see the maliciousness of conversion through charitable acts. They say that though they are converting, Missionaries are also helping the poor which is more important. However, this is wrong because in times of need humans will often do anything if lured by material possessions. For example, prostitution is a despicable but existing profession because people are lured so much by money that they will sell their bodies. Similarly, one who is converted through “charitable” means is selling their religion and moral beliefs for material possessions. Just as prostitution is wrong and despicable, regardless of the prostitutes financial situation, conversion is also wrong regardless of the converts financially situation. Therefore conversion through charitable inducement is a forcible conversion.

Conversion should only happen through spiritual persuasion and not through the gifting of material possessions.

Below are some of the tactics which Missionaries use in the name of charity to convert:

1. Gifts – By far the most common means of conversion is by buying the poor. In one tribal village, Missionaries promised the head of each household pair of nylon pants if he converted to Christianity and a motorbike if he converted his whole family. In a matter of a few months, the Missionaries had “spread the gospel” along with pants and motorbikes to the entire village.
To convert rich and middle-class non-Christians, Missionaries, who are well-funded by Western churches, buy their way in by giving money, computers to universities, and scholarships to children of influential officials.

In other cases instead of feeding the starving, Missionaries give away a walkman with a tape of the Bible in their own language to brainwash them instead.

Mahatma Gandhi wrote the following on one incident which he witnessed:
"Only the other day a missionary descended on a famine area with money in his pocket, distributed it among the famine stricken, converted them to his fold, took charge of their temple and demolished it. This is outrageous."

2. Adoption & Child Sponsorship – Many innocent looking child sponsorship programs, such as Christian Children's Fund and World Vision, that often advertise on U.S. television are guilty of forced conversions. Many often say, “For 50 cents a day, you'll make a real impact on the life of a child and their community!” However, instead of nurturing these children as they claim, they use this money to buy children of poor non-Christian families (like slaves!). The children unwillingly are then separated from their mothers and are raised by Missionaries who brainwash them with Christian fundamentalist ideas. In other cases, Missionaries will “bribe” the entire family of the child to convert to Christianity.

3. Jobs - In 1999, the Indian Church of Christ in Assam was caught red-handed for forcibly converting at least 14 Hindus. Over a period of six months the missionaries belonging to this Church offered money, jobs and other economic benefits to these extremely poor Hindus if they adopted Christianity. These Hindus were threatened with dire consequences if they revealed to anyone the circumstances under which they had been converted. However, two brave individuals who had been forcibly converted came to the police and told them the details of how Christian priests had lured them to their residence with the promise of jobs and money. In return for this favor, the priests then asked these individuals to convert to Christianity.

4. Loans - When conversions by force not being possible, the methods that are applied are inducements and fraud. Inducements are called “social service” or “charitable” activities. In most cases, the social service benefits were provided only to those who agreed to convert. A loan given to a tribal is cancelled if he, along with his family, becomes a Christian. This inducement has been documented in Madhya Pradesh, though the practices that have been narrated are the ones that are a common practice all over India, and indeed in the rest of the world.

Summary
True social service should be done without expecting anything in return from the recipient. Otherwise it becomes a debased and at best can have an accidental redeeming value. If the motive is bad, then the social service has no real merit. There are many organizations that are doing noble service without expecting anything in return. And in offering such services, the Hindus are very actively involved.

During his meetings with the Christian missionaries, Mahatma Gandhi had said that they are doing social service with the ulterior motive of conversions. He asked them to give up this offensive program. He also said to them that if this situation continued in a free India he would ask the foreign missionaries to leave the country.
 
True social service should be done without expecting anything in return from the recipient. Otherwise it becomes a debased and at best can have an accidental redeeming value. If the motive is bad, then the social service has no real merit. There are many organizations that are doing noble service without expecting anything in return. And in offering such services, the Hindus are very actively involved.

I'm not denying they are not doing social service. I'm an atheist and I do not believe in religion. They are in this for trade and benefit.

My question is, why should they not expect a return from their investment? Why are they different than corporations? (barring the fact that they are exempt from taxes).
 
I'm not denying they are not doing social service. I'm an atheist and I do not believe in religion. They are in this for trade and benefit.

My question is, why should they not expect a return from their investment? Why are they different than corporations? (barring the fact that they are exempt from taxes).

By converting they are installing foreign loyalties among the converted population which becomes a national security threat. Any responsible country should prevent seditious activities like this.

If they target the rich and middle class, then that would be more acceptable as it is not taking advantage of the poverty of a vulnerable population. But my preference would be for a total ban of these activities.

They dare not step into the Arab world, Pakistan, Iran or Afghanistan. They only find tolerant clueless poor countries like Bangladesh and Kyrgyzstan. I say oust them all. There is no need for such people among us, we don't need their so called help.
 
By converting they are installing foreign loyalties among the converted population which becomes a national security threat. Any responsible country should prevent seditious activities like this.

Are you claiming Christians are a national security threat to Bangladesh?
 
Are you claiming Christians are a national security threat to Bangladesh?
I don't think that's what's at stake here.conversions to any religion/creed/cult is entirely up to a sane persons own personal choice. Nothings wrong with that.But when you systematically target poor people with zero education specially children under 10/12 years ,its not social work for betterment of a underdeveloped countries. It is illegal and downright morality crippling for other poor people in the same society.
Helping people we always associated with compassion and philanthropic. Not organized syndicate of Christian missionaries in search of a fresh new found land to perge the souls of Savage's. This is not Americas or Africa.
 
I don't think that's what's at stake here.conversions to any religion/creed/cult is entirely up to a sane persons own personal choice. Nothings wrong with that.But when you systematically target poor people with zero education specially children under 10/12 years ,its not social work for betterment of a underdeveloped countries. It is illegal and downright morality crippling for other poor people in the same society.
Helping people we always associated with compassion and philanthropic. Not organized syndicate of Christian missionaries in search of a fresh new found land to perge the souls of Savage's. This is not Americas or Africa.
interesting 'they' have been trying to do this even since Mughal sultanats. nowadays i believe it's mostly US missionaries instead of Dutch, British and Portugese that came in the past. the British and Portugese also founded missionary communities of mixed race Anglo-Indian people that can be seen even today in BD. during the age of european colonization, there was saying among native populations in Latin America - "Bible in Pocket, Gun in Hand"
 
interesting 'they' have been trying to do this even since Mughal sultanats. nowadays i believe it's mostly US missionaries instead of Dutch, British and Portugese that came in the past. the British and Portugese also founded missionary communities of mixed race Anglo-Indian people that can be seen even today in BD. during the age of european colonization, there was saying among native populations in Latin America - "Bible in Pocket, Gun in Hand"

Most active and effective are Korean evangelist missionary. Please see video's at the beginning of the thread.
 
I don't think that's what's at stake here.conversions to any religion/creed/cult is entirely up to a sane persons own personal choice. Nothings wrong with that.But when you systematically target poor people with zero education specially children under 10/12 years ,its not social work for betterment of a underdeveloped countries. It is illegal and downright morality crippling for other poor people in the same society.
Helping people we always associated with compassion and philanthropic. Not organized syndicate of Christian missionaries in search of a fresh new found land to perge the souls of Savage's. This is not Americas or Africa.

That's the same things Muslims done when they came to india, they targeted lower caste Hindus and or poor ones and educated them about their religion is . what's the difference betwen now and than? Anyway we need more cultural diversity here in BD, it will make BD more open etc. I don't !Ind if missionaries come to Bangladesh and teach people about christianity, its their choice of they want to convert or not and I highly doubt that its mandatory for Bangladeshis to learn about other religions like it is so in the UK.
 
That's the same things Muslims done when they came to india, they targeted lower caste Hindus and or poor ones and educated them about their religion is . what's the difference betwen now and than? Anyway we need more cultural diversity here in BD, it will make BD more open etc. I don't !Ind if missionaries come to Bangladesh and teach people about christianity, its their choice of they want to convert or not and I highly doubt that its mandatory for Bangladeshis to learn about other religions like it is so in the UK.
Slowly go through my post again,please. I think you did not grasp the gravity of the situation. Its not about who converted to which religion .this is far greater game than you think.
 

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