Chinese Weapon Exports

[grey boy 2]

New toys for sale
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[grey boy 2]

Zambia: Zambia president and Air force Chief, Chinese ambassador of Zambia Participated in the opening ceremony of the Lusaka Air Force Base L-15Z Attack / Combat / Trainer (AFT) Ground Simulator Training Center and also inspected the newly formed L-15Z fleet
赞比亚媒体9月6日报道，赞比亚总统Edgar Lungu在空军司令Eric Chimese中将以及中国大使杨优明的陪同下参加了卢萨卡空军基地L-15Z攻击/战斗/教练机(AFT)地面模拟器培训中心的启用典礼并视察了新组建的L-15Z机队。（图文来源：jetfight2000）

 

[cnleio]

Zambia: Zambia president and Air force Chief, Chinese ambassador of Zambia Participated in the opening ceremony of the Lusaka Air Force Base L-15Z Attack / Combat / Trainer (AFT) Ground Simulator Training Center and also inspected the newly formed L-15Z fleet
赞比亚媒体9月6日报道，赞比亚总统Edgar Lungu在空军司令Eric Chimese中将以及中国大使杨优明的陪同下参加了卢萨卡空军基地L-15Z攻击/战斗/教练机(AFT)地面模拟器培训中心的启用典礼并视察了新组建的L-15Z机队。（图文来源：jetfight2000）

Good, L-15 will become next K-8 trainer from China to the foreign airforce.

 

[Zarvan]

According to the magazine "Kanwa Defense Review", a Middle East country acquired the Chinese M20 short-range surface-to-surface missile.

 

[samsara]

According to the magazine "Kanwa Defense Review", a Middle East country acquired the Chinese M20 short-range surface-to-surface missile.

WHICH Middle East country it is? Saudi Arabia? Iran? Qatar? Iraq? Egypt?

Btw OT, I think it may be good and NOT ONLY from biz POV if China may design a special export version of its anti-ship missile (AShM) (just call it the DF-21 EXP series) then spread it over the select countries around the world... it may create some headaches of unknowns for some party that loves to resort to violence (in this case using the naval force) to achieve its geopolitical or economic objectives this relatively low cost product will pose a serious threat to those high-value surface assets. Or is such AShM regulated under the MTCR?

Just thinking... what do you think?

 

[Zarvan]

WHICH Middle East country it is? Saudi Arabia? Iran? Qatar? Iraq? Egypt?

Btw OT, I think it may be good and NOT ONLY from biz POV if China may design a special export version of its anti-ship missile (AShM) (just call it the DF-21 EXP series) then spread it over the select countries around the world... it may create some headaches of unknowns for some party that loves to resort to violence (in this case using the naval force) to achieve its geopolitical or economic objectives this relatively low cost product will pose a serious threat to those high-value surface assets. Or is such AShM regulated under the MTCR?

Just thinking... what do you think?

It's either Saudi Arabia or Egypt

 

[Figaro]

WHICH Middle East country it is? Saudi Arabia? Iran? Qatar? Iraq? Egypt?

Btw OT, I think it may be good and NOT ONLY from biz POV if China may design a special export version of its anti-ship missile (AShM) (just call it the DF-21 EXP series) then spread it over the select countries around the world... it may create some headaches of unknowns for some party that loves to resort to violence (in this case using the naval force) to achieve its geopolitical or economic objectives this relatively low cost product will pose a serious threat to those high-value surface assets. Or is such AShM regulated under the MTCR?

Just thinking... what do you think?

Exporting ballistic missiles would undermine Chinese credibility in arms control and would subject it to sanctions, especially exporting to Iran. But the Saudis did buy DF-21s back in 2007 with CIA consent so China should sell them to American friends in the middle East.

 

[samsara]

Exporting ballistic missiles would undermine Chinese credibility in arms control and would subject it to sanctions, especially exporting to Iran. But the Saudis did buy DF-21s back in 2007 with CIA consent so China should sell them to American friends in the middle East.

With CIA consent??? Think you had a typo
no wonder those smaller, weaker nations that lack of know-how can remain be "raped" for having no assets to deter aggression. But RUS can care less such sanctions today if prices & volume match

 

[Figaro]

With CIA consent??? Think you had a typo
no wonder those smaller, weaker nations that lack of know-how can remain be "raped" for having no assets to deter aggression. But RUS can care less such sanctions today if prices & volume match

China would have very little to gain selling ballistic missiles to America’s enemies ... and much to lose. Russia was hurt pretty badly by the sanctions ... imagine where its economy would be without them? As a result, their military spending has plummeted and development stunted. China could not keep up its economic and military growth with sanctions ...

 

[samsara]

China would have very little to gain selling ballistic missiles to America’s enemies ... and much to lose. Russia was hurt pretty badly by the sanctions ... imagine where its economy would be without them? As a result, their military spending has plummeted and development stunted. China could not keep up its economic and military growth with sanctions ...

That's why I implied with all the current sanctions imposed by D.C. on RUS they can care a sh*t if any "Deplorable nation" is willing to buy those lethal assets, if price & volume match. Moreover RUS has little biz or trade with USA so they can care less. Any SWIFT threat or sanction will just accelerate the launch of the alternate system. For CHN the calculation will be different at present, the weapon deal is not worth the current trade regime. It's obvious that as long as it is still advantageous to play along the current trade regime China will just follow. Otherwise Plan B should be deployed. And they're preparing for it.

Still believe the CIA consent was a typo. The CIA has no business here for it'll be too hilarious to ever hear that CHN needs CIA consent to sell some weapons to nation X.

 

[Figaro]

That's why I implied with all the current sanctions imposed by D.C. on RUS they can care a sh*t if any "Deplorable nation" is willing to buy those lethal assets, if price & volume match. Moreover RUS has little biz or trade with USA so they can care less. Any SWIFT threat or sanction will just accelerate the launch of the alternate system. For CHN the calculation will be different at present, the weapon deal is not worth the current trade regime. It's obvious that as long as it is still advantageous to play along the current trade regime China will just follow. Otherwise Plan B should be deployed. And they're preparing for it.

Still believe the CIA consent was a typo. The CIA has no business here for it'll be too hilarious to ever hear that CHN needs CIA consent to sell some weapons to nation X.

That’s Russia ... they don’t even have huge trade with the US and still got hurt badly. China has huge trade with both the US and its allies, so it wouldn’t be wise to sell lethal weapons to US’s enemies ...

 

[AViet]

China would have very little to gain selling ballistic missiles to America’s enemies ... and much to lose. Russia was hurt pretty badly by the sanctions ... imagine where its economy would be without them? As a result, their military spending has plummeted and development stunted. China could not keep up its economic and military growth with sanctions ...

The US sanction the world largest trading nation?. China must be so scared. It is not unlike India threaten to sanction China. They have same rational: China has huge trade surplus with India so they must be hurt by India's sanction, so China should be scared of India.

Vietnam have also very huge trade deficit with China and increasing (50 billions I believe), so ... I think we can get back Hoang Sa islands.

 

[Figaro]

The US sanction the world largest trading nation?. China must be so scared. It is not unlike India threaten to sanction China. They have same rational: China has huge trade surplus with India so they must be hurt by India's sanction, so China should be scared of India.

Vietnam have also very huge trade deficit with China and increasing (50 billions I believe), so ... I think we can get back Hoang Sa islands.

With the US, its much different. China's trade with America dwarfs all other nations ... and it has a over 300 billion trade surplus. In the case of a Chinese-Indian or Chinese-Korean trade war, China would barely suffer but under a United States one, it might indeed. All I'm saying is that China shouldn't sell advanced ballistic missiles to a country like Iran, which is US public enemy number 2. Or else, the US could respond in kind and sell Taiwan F-35s. It's just not worth the risk unfortunately.

 

[Somali-Turk]

 

[Title1234]

According to some Iraqi sources, a neighbouring coutry, most probable Iran, has topped it to buy 4 division of armed equipment from China.

He mean Saudi Arabia not Iran.

According to some Iraqi sources, a neighbouring coutry, most probable Iran, has topped it to buy 4 division of armed equipment from China.