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Chinese SOEs maintain rapid profit growth
Xinhua | Updated: 2017-11-21 16:25
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BEIJING - Chinese State-owned enterprises (SOEs) continued to see rapid profit growth in the first 10 months of the year as the economy held steady, official data showed Tuesday.

Combined SOE profits rose 24.6 percent year-on-year to 2.39 trillion yuan ($360 billion) for the January-October period, the Ministry of Finance said on its website.

The growth slowed slightly from the 24.9-percent increase in the first three quarters but was still markedly higher than the 21.7-percent expansion seen in the first eight months.

Business revenue of SOEs totaled nearly 42 trillion yuan during the period, up 15.4 percent from a year ago. Their operating costs went up 14.6 percent to 40.61 trillion yuan.

By the end of October, the total assets of SOEs stood at 150.63 trillion yuan, while their liabilities surpassed 99 trillion yuan, both up more than 10 percent compared with one year earlier.

SOEs in the non-ferrous metal, steel, coal, oil and petrochemical industries enjoyed relatively large profit increases, but power generation firms suffered significant declines, the data showed.

China has thousands of SOEs, but many have stagnated due to a lack of competition. The government is trying to improve their performance through reform, moving toward mixed ownership and market-oriented management to improve efficiency.

According to a State Council action plan released in July, China's major SOEs will complete corporate governance reform by the end of 2017. The reform targets SOEs supervised by the central government, excluding financial and cultural firms.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2017-11/21/content_34814480.htm
 
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They use to say Chinese SOEs are communist and not profit driven. :D

SOEs are bad. They are not profitable. They are corrupt. How come they can outperform the entire India.

(Keep in mind that the share of private sector in China's economy has been on the rise while SOE profitability is rising, as well.

Indians must be dumb-struck to see that China is disqualifying all Western economic narratives India is believing by heart.
 
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Bank profitability is a good indicator of whether capital is utilized properly, otherwise you would have zombie banks like India.

Well according to them India hits record foreign reserve
 
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SOEs are bad. They are not profitable. They are corrupt. How come they can outperform the entire India.

(Keep in mind that the share of private sector in China's economy has been on the rise while SOE profitability is rising, as well.

Indians must be dumb-struck to see that China is disqualifying all Western economic narratives India is believing by heart.
I doubt India can follow China SOE, cultural differences, that applies to majority of the countries.
 
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SOEs are bad. They are not profitable. They are corrupt. How come they can outperform the entire India.

(Keep in mind that the share of private sector in China's economy has been on the rise while SOE profitability is rising, as well.

Indians must be dumb-struck to see that China is disqualifying all Western economic narratives India is believing by heart.

Many of our Indian friends are pegging their hope on private enterprises to rescue their abysmal defense industries. They believe their private companies holds that magic "philosopher's stone", that would turn iron into gold. None of them would bother to think a little deeper why China's SOEs can succeed where Indian counterpart failed.
 
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Did they only count SOEs managed by Central Government?
How about those run by province, city, county and township?


Gree, Zhuhai City Government

GOI revenue = 275 billion (CIA fact book)
Are u serious?
Such a tiny budget for a huge population!
How can you have enough money for the shining demographic dividend?
@Bussard Ramjet
 
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Chinese SOEs maintain rapid profit growth

It is better to compare yourself in economy with a state superior to you (U.S) so that you can identify the gaps and address them.....If it just to boast in front of a nation inferior to you and feel good...carry on
 
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Combined SOE profits rose 24.6 percent year-on-year to 2.39 trillion yuan ($360 billion) for the January-October period

Did they only count SOEs managed by Central Government?
How about those run by province, city, county and township?

the data covers the central SOEs and local SOEs; but it does NOT cover the financial companies like the banks, or insurance.

2017年1-10月全国国有及国有控股企业经济运行情况
2017年11月21日 来源:资产管理司

  2017年1-10月,全国国有及国有控股企业①(以下简称国有企业)经济运行稳中有进,国有企业收入和利润持续较快增长,利润增幅高于收入9.2个百分点。

1-10月,国有企业利润总额23858.6亿元,同比增长24.6%。(1)中央企业15484亿元,同比增长17.8%。(2)地方国有企业8374.6亿元,同比增长39.4%。


  注:①本月报所称全国国有及国有控股企业,包括中央管理企业、中央部门和单位所属企业以及36个省(自治区、直辖市、计划单列市)的地方国有及国有控股企业,不含国有金融类企业。
 
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the data covers the central SOEs and local SOEs; but it does NOT cover the financial companies like the banks, or insurance.

2017年1-10月全国国有及国有控股企业经济运行情况
2017年11月21日 来源:资产管理司

  2017年1-10月,全国国有及国有控股企业①(以下简称国有企业)经济运行稳中有进,国有企业收入和利润持续较快增长,利润增幅高于收入9.2个百分点。

1-10月,国有企业利润总额23858.6亿元,同比增长24.6%。(1)中央企业15484亿元,同比增长17.8%。(2)地方国有企业8374.6亿元,同比增长39.4%。


  注:①本月报所称全国国有及国有控股企业,包括中央管理企业、中央部门和单位所属企业以及36个省(自治区、直辖市、计划单列市)的地方国有及国有控股企业,不含国有金融类企业。
holy, if they include financial companies, the number will be exploding!
Maybe it's just good we just look at the tangible industries from CRRC to Gree.
 
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Shut down 99.99%SOEs
keep the critical ones like state grid
transfer most resource to private enterprises.
 
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the data covers the central SOEs and local SOEs; but it does NOT cover the financial companies like the banks, or insurance.

2017年1-10月全国国有及国有控股企业经济运行情况
2017年11月21日 来源:资产管理司

  2017年1-10月,全国国有及国有控股企业①(以下简称国有企业)经济运行稳中有进,国有企业收入和利润持续较快增长,利润增幅高于收入9.2个百分点。

1-10月,国有企业利润总额23858.6亿元,同比增长24.6%。(1)中央企业15484亿元,同比增长17.8%。(2)地方国有企业8374.6亿元,同比增长39.4%。


  注:①本月报所称全国国有及国有控股企业,包括中央管理企业、中央部门和单位所属企业以及36个省(自治区、直辖市、计划单列市)的地方国有及国有控股企业,不含国有金融类企业。
If you include the finance industry, then it will be even bigger.

Well according to them India hits record foreign reserve
That reserve cannot even cover their foreign debt.
 
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