China's x86 CPUs from VIA and AMD joint ventures with China

[Martian2]

Taiwan's VIA Technologies has a joint-venture with the Shanghai government called Zhaoxin Semiconductor. During 2018, VIA and Zhaoxin are expected to reveal the new 64-bit x86-compatible KX-5000 CPUs. This will provide competition for Intel CPUs in the Chinese personal computer market.

For the computer SERVER market, Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) had licensed its next-generation x86 architecture Zen-based server chips to China for $293 million. Since it is a technology license and not a sale of AMD, CFIUS approval is not required. Interestingly, AMD CEO Lisa Su is a Taiwanese-American and I think this license was her idea. It's a great way to monetize a technological asset to fund AMD's revival. The license is restricted to only the Chinese market, which means AMD owns the rights to worldwide sales of Zen-based server chips with the exception of China. This is a win-win for both AMD and China.

China has achieved its goals of a China-based x86 compatible personal computer CPU and "China-based x86 server designs." These steps are necessary to break Intel's monopoly within China on the x86 market in both PCs and computer servers.
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VIA Technologies reveals plans for x86-64 CPUs to compete against AMD and Intel | Computing (January 3, 2018)

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Via joint venture reveals KX-5000 x86 SoCs for Chinese PCs | Tech Report (January 2, 2018)

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AMD Licenses X86 to China JV | EE Times (April 21, 2016)

 

[Beast]

State owned enterprises or CPC friendly Chinese company will take order to use certain percentage of this chips. Intel is bound to lose some share market.

 

[jetray]

Is there any benchmarks available for this cpu?

 

[Martian2]

Is there any benchmarks available for this cpu?

The Zhaoxin KX-5000 CPU performance is comparable to the Intel Core i7-6770HQ family of CPUs.

The KX-5000 is faster than an Intel Core i7-6770HQ with 4 Cores/4 Threads, which means one thread per core.

The KX-5000 is slower than a more-expensive model Intel Core i7-6770HQ with 4 Cores/8 Threads, which means two threads per core.

VIA Technologies Subsidiary Zhaoxin Announces New x86-64 CPUs | Extreme Tech (January 3, 2018) COMMENT SECTION

@Martian2

Thanks for this news. You seem to know so much about Chinese technology news. I am curious about something. Do you know which areas China significantly lags behind world leaders? I hear that claim a lot, but it seems more like racist China bashing than reality (with some exceptions, of course).

China lags in new pharmaceutical drugs/medical devices, civilian jumbo jets, and latest-generation semiconductor manufacturing equipment (e.g. lithography stepper).

China is making progress in pharmaceutical drug development and the C939 Sino-Russian wide-body jet.

Latest-generation semiconductor manufacturing equipment technology (such as EUV) looks like the most difficult category.

Aside from these three niche technology sectors, I don't think China is significantly behind.

 

[Yingluck]

Everyone knows Intel got a crab processor in terms of architecture and instruction set. But legacy software installation base compel people to keep going back to Intel.

The problem with AMD and Via is they cant match the manufacturing process of Intel. Right now the main marketing strategy of Intel shouting they are using some "nano" process.

 

[Jlaw]

China lags in new pharmaceutical drugs/

Trust me in this one, TCM combined with lifestyle change is much better for you. Also Chinese companies provide a lot of the active ingredients to pharma in North America and india

 

[qwerrty]

i thought via died a long time ago

 

[Offshore]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomas...e-millions-open-to-cyber-attack/#297ecfbc3932

i really hope Chinese CPU can hit the market at the right moment

 

[TaiShang]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomas...e-millions-open-to-cyber-attack/#297ecfbc3932

i really hope Chinese CPU can hit the market at the right moment

The timing seems perfect

 

[xyxmt]

Looking forward to $15 Chinese X86 CPU the day it hit the market intel shares will go down 50%

 

[Martian2]

Chinese government and core industries to use Zhaoxin KX-5000 x86-compatible CPUs

The Zhaoxin KX-5000 (and future series KX-6000 and KX-7000) x86-compatible CPUs "will be widely adopted in government bureaus and core industries like banks and energy firms, Shanghai-based chip designer Zhaoxin said today."

"In 2018, Zhaoxin aims to ship about 100,000 to 200,000 computer chips, up from almost 30,000 chips in 2017, said Ye Jun, chairman and chief executive of Zhaoxin."

It looks like the Chinese government will buy as many x86-compatible KX-5000 CPUs as Zhaoxin can produce.

Every Zhaoxin CPU purchased by the Chinese government is one less Intel CPU that had to be purchased previously. For the first time, Intel has competition in the Chinese x86 CPU market. Additionally, Zhaoxin chips don't have the security flaws (such as Spectre and Meltdown) that exist in all Intel and AMD chips.

The security flaws in all Intel and AMD chips allow the NSA to access all computers worldwide.
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China-developed chips to be adopted in government and core industries | Shine (January 11, 2018)

 

[scope]

Dangerous times ahead. China has their own competitive cpus, operating system, turbofan blades, supercomputers, world class schools, electric vehicles, space launch vehicles, satellites, etc.

We are fast approaching the conditions that led to the opium wars - Western crap unwanted and unneeded by the Chinese autarky. No wonder Emperor Xigga has been demanding combat readiness from the PLA.

 

[terranMarine]

Simply brilliant. All the best to Taiwan , making China even greater

 

[TaiShang]

It looks like the Chinese government will buy as many x86-compatible KX-5000 CPUs as Zhaoxin can produce.

Every Zhaoxin CPU purchased by the Chinese government is one less Intel CPU that had to be purchased previously. For the first time, Intel has competition in the Chinese x86 CPU market. Additionally, Zhaoxin chips don't have the security flaws (such as Spectre and Meltdown) that exist in all Intel and AMD chips.

The security flaws in all Intel and AMD chips allow the NSA to access all computers worldwide.

In the future, China may even block the sale of Intel and AMD chips on the grounds of national security.

If they bark at China, we just remind them how they blocked Huawei on national security grounds.

Simply brilliant. All the best to Taiwan , making China even greater

Taiwan is a conduit for Mainland whose extend and depth the West will never fully understand.

Dangerous times ahead. China has their own competitive cpus, operating system, turbofan blades, supercomputers, world class schools, electric vehicles, space launch vehicles, satellites, etc.

We are fast approaching the conditions that led to the opium wars - Western crap unwanted and unneeded by the Chinese autarky. No wonder Emperor Xigga has been demanding combat readiness from the PLA.

One word: Nuclear triad. The US can bark. Not cannot bite.