China's new attack helicopter

[Hellraiser007]

kid``indian engine? lol you primitive country cant even make reliable rifles, your AK copy INSAS is so crap that your army has to seek foreign made suff again like every joke projects you have

there is not one single thing from your inventory is made by India but poor foreign parts assembly, as simple as that

the Z-10 and 19 are all flying with home made engines confirmed by army general from Zhuhai Air Show 2012

LCH of India is a good attack helicopter which will enter service in near future.

 

[rcrmj]

LCH of India is a good attack helicopter which will enter service in near future.

not saying its bad```just saying to that clueless kid that the engie is not Indian

 

[Hellraiser007]

LCH runs on HAL/Turbomeca Shakti turboshaft engine. It is a Joint development between India and France.

 

[AerospaceEngineer]

Which foreign Engine you are using in your Chopper, Coper chines enable to copy engines and start barging about they made it they made 10 years before.

Indian Attack Copter is flying from few years with Indian engine

It is flying with WZ-9.

You indians can not even make LCA operational even with American engines.

 

[IND151]

^^ LCA is delayed due to following reasons.

1st Reason>IAF wants LCA to be a high quality fighter and on par with the western fighters.

LCA, as of now, is not close to those standards.

2nd Reason> We can afford LCA being delayed for 3 to 4 years, if it implies IAF getting more advanced, mature platform like Tejas Mk2 with perfected and reliable systems and avionics.

3rd Reason> sanctions after Pokharan 2. (Just like sanctions delayed Z 10)

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

kid``indian engine? lol you primitive country cant even make reliable rifles, your AK copy INSAS is so crap that your army has to seek foreign made suff again like every joke projects you have

there is not one single thing from your inventory is made by India but poor foreign parts assembly, as simple as that

the Z-10 and 19 are all flying with home made engines confirmed by army general from Zhuhai Air Show 2012

What id your Gen lies , is their any way you can find out? show engines rather hiding it then claim.

The modular design of WZ-10 enables it to adopt a number of turboshaft engines. However, the multiple choices of engines have much more to do with the inability of Chinese industry to provide the necessary power plants for WZ-10 in time than the success of modular design concept. At least three type of turboshaft engines have been successfully tested for WZ-10, all of them foreign built. Russian Klimov VK-2500 turboshaft engine that powers Mil Mi-17s sold to China is among the ones used, and so are the Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6C-67C that powers civilian helicopters of western origin in Chinese service. Ukrainian Motor-Sich TV3-117 that powers Mil Mi-28 has also successfully tested, and Ukrainians are helping Chinese to develop its own indigenous turboshaft engine. It’s rumored that European MTR390 that powers Eurocopter Tiger has also been selected, but this cannot be confirmed. Due to the delay in the developing of Chinese domestic engines, all prototypes and pre-production series of WZ-10 are powered by foreign engines.

Pratt & Whitney Canada has admitted to providing the software to convert their engines for military use, in violation of U.S. export control law.[4]

The future, long-term engines for the WZ-10 will be the domestic WZ-9 (WZ = Wo Zhou, 涡&#36724, designed by the 602nd Research Institute, with Ukrainian and Russian assistance. The previously erroneous claim of WZ-9 being a Chinese version of MTR390 proved to be false, because according to the publicized official Chinese governmental technical documents, VK-2500, TV3-117 and PT6 are all classified as third generation turboshaft engines, a category Wozhou-9 belongs to, while MTR390 is classified as a fourth generation turboshaft engine. Wozhou-9 is the least powerful engine out of the five tested for WZ-10, but enjoys the advantage of lowest operational cost because there is no foreign built component. Furthermore, since it is 100% built in China, there are no political issues that would affect the purchase of vital parts. Wozhou (WZ)-9 is scheduled to enter full operational service by the end of 2009. The transmission system was developed with the help of Agusta Westland.
Specifications for Wo Zhou - 9 (涡轴-9) turboshaft engine which installed in WZ10 for mass production :
Power: 1000 kW
Fuel consumption: 0.311 kg/(kW·h)
Pressure ratio: > 8
Inlet temperature: 1355 degrees Celsius
Power-to-weight ratio: 5.4

Another new engine is under development, it is developed by China and Turbomeca. It is called the WZ16 (涡轴16) turboshaft engine. This development appeared in Tianjin Heli Expo in 2011. Its max out put power is 1500 kW, and will be installed in the WZ10 and Z-15 /EC175. After the installation of the new engines power would increase by 500 kW for WZ10. With WZ-9 turboshafts, WZ10 can carry 16 HJ-10 missiles with max take off weight, but the payload is very heavy for the WZ10 and engines and potentially risky for flying, so 8 missiles with other weapons serve as the max useful payload. After new WZ16 engines are installed in the WZ10, it can carry 16 of them like AH-64.

The auxiliary power unit (APU) of WZ-10 is centered on a brand-new brushless DC electric motor designed by Huafeng Avionics (华烽航空电&#22120 Co, a subsidiary of GAIC. The new electric motor is characterized by its low voltage, high power, high rpm, and stable current, and the entire development only took three months. In contrast to previous helicopter designs, the integrated APU also provides power to onboard avionics for WZ-10, where early designs had separately systems for starting the main engine and powering onboard avionics. Such system has never been used on Chinese helicopters before, and its adaptation on WZ-10 proved to be successful.

WZ-10 is not stealthy, but careful attentions have been given to reduce its electro-magnetic characteristics to reduce the probability of being detected. The planned procedure to reduce its radar cross section includes adopting radar absorbent paints. Another planned measure is to incorporate laser altimeter pioneered by Israel, which would reduce the probability of intercept by enemy’s electronic support measures in comparison to traditional radar altimeter, which emits radio/radar signals, while laser is far less prone to interception.

Chinese have claimed that the avionics of WZ-10 is more advanced that of Russian attack helicopters, and the avionics suit enables WZ-10 to be able to conduct mission at a level that is just 10 meters above the ground.


After taking ,, looking into number of engines Chinese not able to copy then use French to help develop shaft and engine, contrast that India developed own shaft and take.

The problem is when India develop with help of other you started whamming and when china dose it become indigenous

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

It is flying with WZ-9.

You indians can not even make LCA operational even with American engines.

we don't make metallic frame planes any more and don't use sub standard engine our engine will make lCA fly at super cruise without using afterburners this is benchmark for airforce and not like yours which still accept metallic frame planes.

We our LCA inducted it able to fire all type of missiles while your JF-17 inducted only fire few missile and yet to induct full range of systems. their is difference of scores, thats why you looking for upgrade engine with 100 while LCA will induct with powerful engines only.

 

[conworldus]

we don't make metallic frame planes any more and don't use sub standard engine our engine will make lCA fly at super cruise without using afterburners this is benchmark for airforce and not like yours which still accept metallic frame planes.

We our LCA inducted it able to fire all type of missiles while your JF-17 inducted only fire few missile and yet to induct full range of systems. their is difference of scores, thats why you looking for upgrade engine with 100 while LCA will induct with powerful engines only.

Your LCA still doesn't have a functional AA missile integration.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

Your LCA still doesn't have a functional AA missile integration.

lCA already fired R-73 air-to-air missile during a technology demonstrator flight off the Goa coast, if you don't know it.
The IAF wants all weapon integration which AF has not only few , like JF-17 had.

 

[hk299792458]

LH96101: the 01 unite of the 6th aviation mission, the 6th mission belongs to Guangzou military region

LH95111: the 11 unite of the 5th aviation mission, the 5th mission belongs to Nanjing military region

WZ-10， plan started in 1992, first fly in 2003, 2004 had 6 unites fly test, in 2006.01 weapon fire test; entered service at the end of 2006; 2009 mass process ;
now at least, Nanjing military region has one WZ-10 and WZ19 aviation mission(the 5th mission): No.LH95101-LH951**)
Beijing Military Region has one Army Aviation Mission(WZ-10 and WZ19 :28 unites),
and Guangzhou Military Region has one WZ-10-WZ-19 Army Aviation Mission(28 unites), Nanjing milirary region also has WZ-10.

Thank you very much.

Where did you get these information?

 

[xuxu1457]

Thank you very much.

Where did you get these information?

they are all open news, such as Haerbin can make 40 WZ-19/year
?????4?????????????40?_????_???

 

[帅的一匹]

They should load weapons on Z-10 so people can see its deadliest look as well.

Chinese always hold back too much, carry missiles in the show will make it look deadly. As long as people birth after 1980 rules the country, we will never hold back.

 

[hk299792458]

BtW anyone knows if China is making the longbow version of Z-10 similar to

An old picture seems showing that a similar radar was under development. In the middile of the picture you can see the CEO of AVIC group, LIN.

P.S. - Both sides just can't stop trolling, it's annoying...

 

[hk299792458]

they are all open news, such as Haerbin can make 40 WZ-19/year
?????4?????????????40?_????_???

If my chinese is not wrong, the article was stating that the capacity of Haerbin is 40 4t-class helicopter per year...

This morning I read something from the chief engineer of Haerbin saying that they will be able to produce as many Z-19 as the chinese amy will purchase.

I think 40 helicopters (Z-9 + Z-19) will not be enough for quick growing needs of the PLA...

 

[SEAL]

An old picture seems showing that a similar radar was under development. In the middile of the picture you can see the CEO of AVIC group, LIN.

P.S. - Both sides just can't stop trolling, it's annoying...

Z-10 is mature now as its in production now works needs to be done in electronics department fire control radar like Longbow, sensor fusion, EW and ECM this will surely put Z-10 in top league.