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https://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_China

You can find the stats above.

But what I want to discuss is, that is the current ethnic policy working and useful?

Also, if any Chinese member can help me here, can somebody publish stats regarding the ethnic make up of recently born babies? @rott @AndrewJin @Kiss_of_the_Dragon
India definitely can learn from China on how to unite and harmonize the diversified ethnics in the modern state of China. The 56 ethnics, official figure, many more actually when one considers the many smaller subgroups that are considered too small to be treated as a separate ethnicity. I've been in the NE India (Kolkata was my entrance) at once and be perplexed on how the people there communicated with different languages among regions and they didn't speak Hindi [much] and basically communicated in English among different ethnics. Nonetheless it's a nice, cherished experience to visit Bagdogra, Darjeeling, Siliguri, Gangtok and few other parts of Sikkim state.

If you follow closely the developments in modern China then you will see that the central govt gives enormous opportunities for all the minority ethnics to promote their cultures and traditions as long as they promote the national unity and harmony, even to the highest stages and the biggest occasions as the frequent coverage by the national TV networks and as in the most important traditional event, Spring Festival celebration and so on. And the majority Han Chinese do enjoy and love those minority cultures, just witness their popularity and embrace by the most Chinese people. Hint: just check at the popularity of Tibetan (Kangba, Anduo), Mongolian and many more cultures and the receptions by the Chinese people, in mainland and overseas! [I must confess that my own self is an ardent fan of those cultures of minority ethics, collecting many songs of them :-)]

FYI many of these minority ethnics have their own TV broadcast conveyed in their own languages, they remain be able to safeguard and show the richness of their own cultures, traditions, languages and so on.

The key points are the principle foundations laid out by those founding fathers of modern China to embrace all ethnicities and maintain their cultures and traditions in line with the united modern statehood of China (a wisdom that can be traced back as early as the 1911 Revolution in setting up the Republic of China by Dr. Sun Yat-sen and his compatriots), later outlined and protected in the PRC constitution! The arduous adoption over the generational efforts of one national language, i.e. Chinese language (Mandarin) 汉语 incl. one national script, Chinese characters or Hanzi 汉字 is one of the key factors of unity and harmony... each ethnic and subgroup may keep their own languages & dialects and writing scripts but nationwide they are able to communicate each other using the same language and writing system regardless their regions and background, which is crucial for a vast landmass as large as China. This language uniformity is a much coveted trait among other nations having the diversified population! Just look at how many racial problems faced by many nations in the world nowadays!!

I once read in the some research paper conducted by some institution in the USA for the CIA (unfortunately I lost the link & its content due to HDD crash few years ago), there the researchers admitted that this uniformity of language, esp. the writing system is the very foundation of the strong cohesion among the Chinese people that makes it very hard to break their unity unlike in other nations!!

It may sound easy to be tolerant but when one realizes that Han Chinese makes up over 90% of China's population then one should cherish and thumb up the wisdom of those great statesmen in China from Sun, Chiang, to Mao, Zhou, Deng and later generations to safeguard and nurture the minority ethnics there instead of simply swallowing them up altogether!

Sorry, I don't have the data that you requested, but here are some resource links to show the diversity:

56 Chinese Ethnic Groups
https://sites.google.com/site/chn56ethnicities/

Family Portraits of all 56 ethnic groups in China | ChinaHush
http://www.chinahush.com/2009/12/06/family-portraits-of-all-56-ethnic-groups-in-china/
 
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But what I want to discuss is, that is the current ethnic policy working and useful?
There is no need to discuss this issue.
As to whether it is effective,please compare China's ethnic policy and India's ethnic policy.
 
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There is no need to discuss this issue.
As to whether it is effective,please compare China's ethnic policy and India's ethnic policy.

Yes, let's compare.

How many Chinese ethnicities call for open secession? And how many of India's do?

Tibetans and Uygurs are calling openly for secession.

While in India, it is only Kashmiris.

Despite the fact that India has a million times more ethnicities, castes, and all kinds of divisions.
 
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Also, if any Chinese member can help me here, can somebody publish stats regarding the ethnic make up of recently born babies?
Here may have the information you need.
National Health and Family Planning Commission of the PRC
http://en.nhfpc.gov.cn/

Yes, let's compare.

How many Chinese ethnicities call for open secession? And how many of India's do?

Tibetans and Uygurs are calling openly for secession.

While in India, it is only Kashmiris.

Despite the fact that India has a million times more ethnicities, castes, and all kinds of divisions.
LOL,,OK, you've got the answer, China's ethnic policy is a failure, India's ethnic policy is successful.:lol::lol:
 
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Here may have the information you need.
National Health and Family Planning Commission of the PRC
http://en.nhfpc.gov.cn/


LOL,,OK, you've got the answer, China's ethnic policy is a failure, India's ethnic policy is successful.:lol::lol:


What I am suggesting is that please please please do away with the whole concept of ethnicities.

These ethnicities are often used by foreigners to argue that somehow China is an imperial empire.

Only two ethnicities are not assimilated.

Rest all should be immediately classified as Han.

And efforts should be made to sinicize them as well.
 
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Yes, let's compare.

How many Chinese ethnicities call for open secession? And how many of India's do?

Tibetans and Uygurs are calling openly for secession.

While in India, it is only Kashmiris.

Despite the fact that India has a million times more ethnicities, castes, and all kinds of divisions.
please include ur north east part when talking about secession. at least unlike india, there are no guerrillas on china's land.

don't compare china with india. china is basically a homogeneous nation compared to india. 92% han ethnic plus 6% minor ethnic group who are highly han-ized and only speak Mandarin or Han dialects. only two ethnic minority groups are real: muslim and tibetan. They account for 2% of total population.
 
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please include ur north east part when talking about secession. at least unlike india, there are no guerrillas on china's land.

don't compare china with india. china is basically a homogeneous nation compared to india. 92% han ethnic plus 6% minor ethnic group who are highly han-ized and only speak Mandarin or Han dialects. only two ethnic minority groups are real: muslim and tibetan. They account for 2% of total population.
Don't argue with him, India's ethnic policy is successful.:lol::lol:
 
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What I am suggesting is that please please please do away with the whole concept of ethnicities.

These ethnicities are often used by foreigners to argue that somehow China is an imperial empire.

Only two ethnicities are not assimilated.

Rest all should be immediately classified as Han.

And efforts should be made to sinicize them as well.
Friend, just a friendly suggestion, instead of bothering with the ethnicities in China, you better care more your own to achieve the better things domestically. There is no point to say that India has many many more ethnicities when in reality the state is far from anything to be proud of. The actual people livelihood there still need plenty of works, better you focus on own problems instead of being busy body with other's affair.

Yes, let's compare.

How many Chinese ethnicities call for open secession? And how many of India's do?

Tibetans and Uygurs are calling openly for secession.

While in India, it is only Kashmiris.

Despite the fact that India has a million times more ethnicities, castes, and all kinds of divisions.
There is nothing to brag on within the far from bright and rewarding conditions within India itself. Fact omissions don't make the lines more convincing to read as well.
 
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Yes, let's compare.

How many Chinese ethnicities call for open secession? And how many of India's do?

Tibetans and Uygurs are calling openly for secession.

While in India, it is only Kashmiris.

Despite the fact that India has a million times more ethnicities, castes, and all kinds of divisions.

A handful of Tibetans and Uyghurs call for secession. The vast vast majority are patriotic Chinese citizens.

China is often deemed homogenous but there are distinct differences within the Han ethnic group and Northern and Southern Chinese. The only difference is that China is more egalitarian than India and less divisive thus the "Han" ethnic group is not one huge monolith but rather an amalgamation of many culturally and genetically diverse people.

India can only dream of such unity. I would rather live in China during the Taiping rebellion than live in modern day India.
 
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Yes, let's compare.

How many Chinese ethnicities call for open secession? And how many of India's do?

Tibetans and Uygurs are calling openly for secession.

While in India, it is only Kashmiris.

Despite the fact that India has a million times more ethnicities, castes, and all kinds of divisions.
India has the most amount of secessionist and rebel groups in the world...

Here are just some

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurgency_in_Jammu_and_Kashmir
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurgency_in_Northeast_India
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assam_separatist_movements
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naga_nationalism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberation_Front_of_Tripura
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Tripura_Tiger_Force
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodo_Liberation_Tigers_Force
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adivasi_Cobra_Force
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babbar_Khalsa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hynniewtrep_National_Liberation_Council
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangleipak_Communist_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karbi_Longri_N.C._Hills_Liberation_Front
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamtapur_Liberation_Organisation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalistan_Commando_Force
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalistan_Zindabad_Force
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhil_Bharat_Nepali_Ekta_Samaj
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_Nadu_Liberation_Army
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_National_Liberation_Alliance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_National_Retrieval_Troops
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_United_Liberation_Tigers_of_Assam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democratic_Front_of_Bodoland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Council_of_Nagaland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Liberation_Army_of_Manipur
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Revolutionary_Party_of_Kangleipak
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Liberation_Front_of_Assam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_National_Liberation_Front
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zomi_Revolutionary_Army
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalistan_movement
 
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please include ur north east part when talking about secession. at least unlike india, there are no guerrillas on china's land.

don't compare china with india. china is basically a homogeneous nation compared to india. 92% han ethnic plus 6% minor ethnic group who are highly han-ized and only speak Mandarin or Han dialects. only two ethnic minority groups are real: muslim and tibetan. They account for 2% of total population.

But they are majority in two of China's largest provinces.

A handful of Tibetans and Uyghurs call for secession. The vast vast majority are patriotic Chinese citizens.

China is often deemed homogenous but there are distinct differences within the Han ethnic group and Northern and Southern Chinese. The only difference is that China is more egalitarian than India and less divisive thus the "Han" ethnic group is not one huge monolith but rather an amalgamation of many culturally and genetically diverse people.

India can only dream of such unity. I would rather live in China during the Taiping rebellion than live in modern day India.

Don't buy your own propaganda.

Tibetans and Uygurs, if they were ever given the vote, would overwhelmingly choose secession.

And I totally agree with your point. Han is diverse.

And that is why I recommend that all other people, specially the Zhuang, Hui, Manchu, Tujia, and others, should be included as Han. They are totally sinicized.
 
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Friend, just a friendly suggestion, instead of bothering with the ethnicities in China, you better care more your own to achieve the better things domestically. There is no point to say that India has many many more ethnicities when in reality the state is far from anything to be proud of. The actual people livelihood there still need plenty of works, better you focus on own problems instead of being busy body with other's affair.


There is nothing to brag on within the far from bright and rewarding conditions within India itself. Fact omissions don't make the lines more convincing to read as well.

The Indian Household is broken, violent, divided and destitute. Life is terrible so he has to think and wish bad things of his neighbours in order to feel more equal.
 
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India has the most amount of secessionist and rebel groups in the world...

Here are just some

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurgency_in_Jammu_and_Kashmir
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurgency_in_Northeast_India
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assam_separatist_movements
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naga_nationalism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberation_Front_of_Tripura
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Tripura_Tiger_Force
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodo_Liberation_Tigers_Force
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adivasi_Cobra_Force
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babbar_Khalsa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hynniewtrep_National_Liberation_Council
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangleipak_Communist_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karbi_Longri_N.C._Hills_Liberation_Front
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamtapur_Liberation_Organisation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalistan_Commando_Force
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalistan_Zindabad_Force
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhil_Bharat_Nepali_Ekta_Samaj
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_Nadu_Liberation_Army
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_National_Liberation_Alliance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_National_Retrieval_Troops
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_United_Liberation_Tigers_of_Assam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democratic_Front_of_Bodoland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Council_of_Nagaland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Liberation_Army_of_Manipur
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Revolutionary_Party_of_Kangleipak
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Liberation_Front_of_Assam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_National_Liberation_Front
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zomi_Revolutionary_Army
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalistan_movement
Most of those movements are dead or surrendered long ago & those groups don't exist anymore..
But please have a look at these names of 48s
http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/pakistan/terroristoutfits/group_list.htm

The Indian Household is broken, violent, divided and destitute. Life is terrible so he has to think and wish bad things of his neighbours in order to feel more equal.
Sure
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...aiwan-hong-kong-to-boost-loyalty/3565578.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-taiwan-defence-idUSKBN1690H4
http://www.njherald.com/article/20170227/AP/302279595
 
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