China's cultural genocide done to her own culture

[haidian]

Before 1949 China was a backward nation culturally dominated by old customs and superstition. After Communist party took over in 1949, it started to challenge almost everything on this thousands of years old culture.
Chinese women used to wrap their feet and distort the foot bones right after they were born to make the feet tiny, total ban after PRC.
A man used to be able to marry as many wives as they want, total ban after PRC.
Prostition used to be prevalent, total ban after PRC, and the prositutes were rounded up to sent to education camps to learn a trade to make a living after the ban.
Opium smoking was everywhere and most favorite pastime, was made a severe crime after PRC.
Sexual discrimination and the tradition that a woman had to adopt their husband surname after they got married and girls can't go to school, a total ban after PRC. Now China has more girls in college than boys.
Married must be arranged based on the parents will, a total ban after PRC.
Witch doctors used to be the main medical practice in China, total ban after PRC along with the most common occupation, fortune telling.
And so many others....

After 1949, PRC completely destroyed many of China's thousands of years traditions and customs.

 

[Akasa]

Before 1949 China was a backward nation culturally dominated by old customs and superstition. After Communist party took over in 1949, it started to challenge on almost everything in thousands of years of the old culture.
Chinese women used to wrap their feet and distort the foot bones right after they were born to make the feet tiny, total ban after PRC.
A man used to be able to marry as many wives as they want, total ban after PRC.
Prostition used to be prevalent, total ban after PRC, and the prositutes were rounded up to sent to education camps to learn a trade to make a living after the ban.
Opium smoking was everywhere and most favorite pastime, was made a severe crime after PRC.
Sexual discrimination and the tradition that a woman had to adopt their husband surname after they got married and girls were not allow to go to school, a total ban after PRC. Now China has more girls in college than boys.
Married must be arranged based on the parents will, a total ban after PRC.
Witch doctors used to be the main medical practice in China, total ban after PRC along with the most common occupation, fortune telling.
And so many others....

After 1949, PRC completely destroyed many of China's thousands of years traditions and customs.

Not all customs & traditions should be kept in their original form. Modernization happens for a reason.

 

[rambro]

Adapt with time not stick to the same old

 

[haidian]

Premarital sex for girls used to be punished by sinking them to the bottom a river or a lake, if the rule still applied today, not many girls would be left alive in today's China I guess.

 

[LASER1]

The best analogy would be Taiwan the people who escaped the cultural revolution. Did they practice any of these when Taiwan was formed? Cultural practices evolve you can't expect the same to happen if there were no communist. Also, the communist did pretty much destroy the Chinese culture and adopted the western culture. No matter how much you try to make it with the tag 'Chinese characteristics'.

And cultural revolution was the fun time killing whoever they want, just accusing them of talking bad against Mao was enough for execution. There were people who got their mothers executed. (Some messed up sh*t) Publically executing the teachers. Destroying old Buddhist statues, books and so on. Later the communist helped to reduce the population of China by starving them to death. Because farms were nationalized and ownership was banned. Forcing the farmers to join steel and iron production.

Thanks to Deng, who later removed many of the stupid rules that made it look like a communist socialist state. And the Americans who took the opportunity and started moving their manufacture to China from Nippon.

 

[haidian]

The best analogy would be Taiwan the people who escaped the cultural revolution. Did they practice any of these when Taiwan was formed? Cultural practices evolve you can't expect the same to happen if there were no communist. Also, the communist did pretty much destroy the Chinese culture and adopted the western culture. No matter how much you try to make it with the tag 'Chinese characteristics'.

They actually did the same, banned many old traditions and they even caused an uprising in Taiwan. When I m talking about a ban that is something still exists today, Mao's cultural revolution is a radical movement half a century ago, a temporary turmoil lasted for 10 year (1966-1976), and is also banned in China.

Crazy radical movement like the Cultural revolution should be something India needs, that will help India root out their old caste system and superstition.

 

[LASER1]

They actually did the same, banned many old traditions and they even caused an uprising in Taiwan. When I m talking about a ban that is something still exists today, Mao's cultural revolution is a radical movement half a century ago, a temporary turmoil lasted for 10 year (1966-1976), and is also banned in China.

Today China is far better from Mao's time. Similarly, todays Taiwan is better from those times. Such changes are bound to happen, it's not just because of communism but the will of the people to change. So, any draconian laws might have been removed as the people evolved.

If the same analogy from Mao's times were applied, do you get killed for criticizing Xi at home? That's how your logic goes.

 

[haidian]

Today China is far better from Mao's time. Similarly, todays Taiwan is better from those times. Such changes are bound to happen, it's not just because of communism but the will of the people to change. So, any draconian laws might have been removed as the people evolved.

If the same analogy from Mao's times were applied, do you get killed for criticizing Xi at home? That's how your logic goes.

Cultural revolution lasted for only 10 years and it was wrong recognized by the government, when I m talking about change I m not only talking about a dark 10 years, your problem is that when you think about PRC ,you only think about those 10 years.

 

[LASER1]

Crazy radical movement like the Cultural revolution should be something India needs, that will help India root out their old caste system and superstition.

You think China is not superstitious? You might want to check on that.

As for India having a cultural revolution, no thanks. We are developing fine with normal democracy at a sustainable level with a consumption and export growth. And we love our culture, we are proud of it.
China is a monolingual and unicultural nation with a single ethnicity. While India has more than 28 languages and 100's od dialects with different religions and cultures.

Cultural revolution lasted for only 10 years and it was wrong recognized by the government, when I m talking about change I m not only talking about a dark 10 years, your problem is that when you think about PRC ,you only think about those 10 years.

China is not a country we take as an example. There is nothing in Chinese system we want to emulate. Not until we have a dictator.

As for my thoughts on PRC is concerned, you might want to check your own thread topic and the original post. It's about things happened in 1949 and extrapolating. So, why go defensive when talking about it?

 

[haidian]

You think China is not superstitious? You might want to check on that.

As for India having a cultural revolution, no thanks. We are developing fine with normal democracy at a sustainable level with a consumption and export growth. And we love our culture, we are proud of it.
China is a monolingual and unicultural nation with a single ethnicity. While India has more than 28 languages and 100's od dialects with different religions and cultures.


China is not a country we take as an example. There is nothing in Chinese system we want to emulate. Not until we have a dictator.

As for my thoughts on PRC is concerned, you might want to check your own thread topic and the original post. It's about things happened in 1949 and extrapolating. So, why gdefensive when talking about it?

Every country is superstitious to some degree, it all depends with whom you compare to. Compare to the past, it's way way better. China has more than 28 languages actually, for dialects, I don't understand a word if a guy from Shanghai or Guangdong speaks their dialect.

As for my thoughts on PRC is concerned, you might want to check your own thread topic and the original post. It's about things happened in 1949 and extrapolating. So, why go defensive when talking about it?

You are being defensive actually, CCP has ruled in China for almost 70 years and your political system also has been working about the same length. We give CCP a better overall score managing China than yours managing India, you can believe the opposite, it's all about people's perspectives.

 

[LASER1]

Every country is superstitious to some degree, it all depends with whom you compare to. Compare to the past, it's way way better. China has more than 28 languages actually, for dialects, I don't understand a word if a guy from Shanghai or Guangdong speaks their dialect.

You are contradicting yourself. In India, people believe in religion and from business to even agriculture, there is an influence. But China is communist and is supposed to be devoid of superstitions. Are you?
Chinese speaks mandarin, your 28 languages is a joke compared to the case of India. And don't tell me you don't understand anything when people from Shanghai talk.

You are being defensive actually, CCP has ruled in China for almost 70 years and your political system also has been working about the same length. We give CCP a better overall score managing China than yours managing India, you can believe the opposite, it's all about people's perspectives.

Again, you are talking the same stuff. I'm saying Chinese system can't be implemented outside China because it won't work. India cannot do something as stupid as a cultural revolution because the Indian system is deeply entrenched in the culture. Our culture is our pride.

The world is not ending tomorrow, there is no finishing line for development. India is developing, today it may be a little bit behind the world, but don't expect it to be forever underdeveloped. The Chinese must know it more than anyone.

 

[haidian]

You are contradicting yourself. In India, people believe in religion and from business to even agriculture, there is an influence. But China is communist and is supposed to be devoid of superstitions. Are you?
Chinese speaks mandarin, your 28 languages is a joke compared to the case of India. And don't tell me you don't understand anything when people from Shanghai talk.

NO. That's your mentality problem,who tod you a communist country people don't believe any religions and superstitions? besides, China is just in the name of communism and by and large is still a Confucian country like it always was.
I said when people from Shanghai speak their dialect I don't understand a word, once two girls from Hangzhou (next to Shanghai) spoke their dialect and fooled me by telling me that they were from Korea and I believed, they had a good laugh of it. Yes we have national standard language Mandarin, like you have English, for people from different part of the China to communicate.

Again, you are talking the same stuff. I'm saying Chinese system can't be implemented outside China because it won't work. India cannot do something as stupid as a cultural revolution because the Indian system is deeply entrenched in the culture. Our culture is our pride.

The world is not ending tomorrow, there is no finishing line for development. India is developing, today it may be a little bit behind the world, but don't expect it to be forever underdeveloped. The Chinese must know it more than anyone.

You jumped in this thread and started posting negative stuff against China which is by no means the mainstream history of China's recent history, which is development and modernization. I didn't mention India is the OP post nor say that India should adopt them, you are just too eager to put China down so you jumped in and later accused me for bringing India in.
And I don't like to talk about India in this thread so how bright you believe your country's future is not my concern.

 

[LASER1]

NO. That's your mentality problem,who tod you a communist country people don't believe any religions and superstitions? besides, China is just in the name of communism and by and large is still a Confucian country like it always was.

More contradictions. Read Das kapital (hope you know what that is). You do not even know what exactly you are which was bound to happen when you choose to destroy your culture. You're not Communist, but your party is called Communist party of China. You are not a republic, but you are called the Peoples Republic of China.

I said when people from Shanghai speak their dialect I don't understand a word, once two girls from Hangzhou (next to Shanghai) spoke their dialect and fooled me by telling me that they were from Korea and I believed, they had a good laugh of it. Yes we have national standard language Mandarin, like you have English, for people from different part of the China to communicate.

Rather, call it dialect it's not a language. India has different languages with different writing styles. So, a guy from Tamil Nadu will not understand Kannada neither he can speak nor read/write when he goes to Karnataka. In short he/she will be completely lost. It's like going from one country to another. A Chinese cannot comprehend that.

You jumped in this thread and started posting negative stuff against China which is by no means the mainstream history of China's recent history, which is development and modernization. I didn't mention India is the OP post nor say that India should adopt them, you are just too eager to put China down so you jumped in and later accused me for bringing India in.

You should've made it exclusive for Chinese and said, 'only positive news can be discussed and only Chinese are allowed to talk'.

That'll be a discussion between Chinese that validates mutual biases or goals in a non-confrontational environment, in short, you want a self-congratulatory discussion.
Which is predictable given one country is formed based on obedience while another on disobedience.

And I don't like to talk about India in this thread so how bright you believe your country's future is not my concern.

I didn't bring India into this. In fact, you did.

Crazy radical movement like the Cultural revolution should be something India needs, that will help India root out their old caste system and superstition.

 

[haidian]

More contradictions. Read Das kapital (hope you know what that is). You do not even know what exactly you are which was bound to happen when you choose to destroy your culture. You're not Communist, but your party is called Communist party of China. You are not a republic, but you are called the Peoples Republic of China.
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No one even knows whats gonna happen tomorrow and cultures always evolves never being stagnant, maybe in India it is.China's communism is everything different from communism of other countries, it'd been completely reshaped to suit Chinese needs, many ideologies went thru the same process after entering China,they have to transform themselves to fit in China's Confucian society.

You should've made it exclusive for Chinese and said, 'only positive news can be discussed and only Chinese are allowed to talk'.

That'll be a discussion between Chinese that validates mutual biases or goals in a non-confrontational environment, in short, you want a self-congratulatory discussion.
Which is predictable given one country is formed based on obedience while another on disobedi

We can discuss but not in your China bashing style. You can attack our culture being obedient but at least we dont have Dalits living a life worse than animals here,our society is at least more fair and equal than yours.

Rather, call it dialect it's not a language. India has different languages with different writing styles. So, a guy from Tamil Nadu will not understand Kannada neither he can speak nor read/write when he goes to Karnataka. In short he/she will be completely lost. It's like going from one country to another. A Chinese cannot comprehend that.

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China is a continental size country the size of whole Europe, at least 3 times the size of India, you cant comprehend how diverse China is.

 

[Mista]

Cultural revolution should be something India needs, that will help India root out their old caste system and superstition.

What developing countries like India needs is education of science and technology among the general populace, and along with it the ability to think critically and question old-age practices. Why this? Why that? Similarly this is how the European societies evolve during the Age of Enlightenment with the discovery of scientific principles in the 17th-18th century, or how Japan reformed their society by receiving modern education involving science and technology and not just Confucian classics.

http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/special/japan_1750_meiji.htm

The progress of China's society today from Mao's era is largely due to improvement in education levels of the population and therefore the ability to think critically, not the Cultural Revolution. Here you are, able to criticize superstitions, is because of the education you receive and therefore the ability to think critically on this issue; not because the government smashed statues or whatever 50 years ago. Otherwise you wouldn't be voluntarily denouncing these old-age practices.

Revolutions involving culture, beliefs and the society in a top-down manner rarely succeeds, instead it often creates another set of problems. The Qing tried to abolish practices such as foot-binding, but it failed. Anyway the CR is politically motivated because of internal party struggles, using the contradiction of the society as a cover.