China’s action like Pol Pot’s, says Dalai Lama

[StraightShooter]

China’s action like Pol Pot’s, says Dalai Lama
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NEW DELHI APRIL 09, 2017 00:00 IST
UPDATED: APRIL 09, 2017 03:59 IST

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Blessingsevotees offer prayers to the Dalai Lama in Tawang, Arunachal Pradesh, on Saturday.PTI

Tibetan leader says it is normal for Beijing to give political colour to his visits
In his sharpest comments yet, the Dalai Lama compared China’s actions in Tibet to the regime of Cambodian dictator Pol Pot, who was held responsible for the death of more than a million Cambodians in the 1970s.

Speaking at the Tawang monastery, where he arrived on Friday, the Tibetan leader and spiritual guru said despite the atrocities in Tibet “smiliar to Pol Pot’s in Cambodia,” he had decided to “forgive China” and was even willing to follow the “One China” policy.

“Tibet has had very good relations with China for thousands of years. I have no issues with the ‘One China’ policy ensuring economic benefit to Tibet provided we have the right to preserve our culture and language,” he said. In the run-up to his visit, the Chinese government had issued several direct threats to India.


He accused China of spreading wrong information about his trip, saying it was normal for Beijing to give a “political colour.”

“The Chinese people have every right to know the reality, but totalitarianism has done great damage,” he said.

On whether his visit to Tawang would affect India-China ties, he said: “We will have to wait and see. But it is normal for China to give a political colour to my spiritual visits.” (With PTI)

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/chinas-action-like-pol-pots-says-dalai-lama/article17896261.ece

 

[SBUS-CXK]

China’s action like Pol Pot’s, says Dalai Lama
SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT
NEW DELHI APRIL 09, 2017 00:00 IST
UPDATED: APRIL 09, 2017 03:59 IST

Blessingsevotees offer prayers to the Dalai Lama in Tawang, Arunachal Pradesh, on Saturday.PTI

Tibetan leader says it is normal for Beijing to give political colour to his visits
In his sharpest comments yet, the Dalai Lama compared China’s actions in Tibet to the regime of Cambodian dictator Pol Pot, who was held responsible for the death of more than a million Cambodians in the 1970s.

Speaking at the Tawang monastery, where he arrived on Friday, the Tibetan leader and spiritual guru said despite the atrocities in Tibet “smiliar to Pol Pot’s in Cambodia,” he had decided to “forgive China” and was even willing to follow the “One China” policy.

“Tibet has had very good relations with China for thousands of years. I have no issues with the ‘One China’ policy ensuring economic benefit to Tibet provided we have the right to preserve our culture and language,” he said. In the run-up to his visit, the Chinese government had issued several direct threats to India.


He accused China of spreading wrong information about his trip, saying it was normal for Beijing to give a “political colour.”

“The Chinese people have every right to know the reality, but totalitarianism has done great damage,” he said.

On whether his visit to Tawang would affect India-China ties, he said: “We will have to wait and see. But it is normal for China to give a political colour to my spiritual visits.” (With PTI)

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/chinas-action-like-pol-pots-says-dalai-lama/article17896261.ece

Nonsense.
India 1969 and 2002 atrocities more like Pol Pot. Indians recently hurt 5200 people in Kashmir, more like Pol Pot. And Manipur, Assam and Tamil nadu....

Recently I know 1984...
So, Indians are starting to shift attention now?

 

[SBUS-CXK]

The Dalai Lama has accepted the One China policy and accepts that China should rule over Tibet - he only says that Tibetan language and culture should be protected. On one hand China aids known terrorists like Hafiz Saeed, on the other hand a Buddhist monk is a "terrorist" to them. Does China realize it becomes a laughing stock for the civilized world with its absurd actions?

Oh, Darai is not only a monk, but also a traitor. It's like India itself is a turbulent state, committed to the atrocities committed in Kashmir and gujarat. But Indians still like to disguise themselves as saints.

 

[patman]

The whole of India is the most oppressed.
Hundreds of millions of Muslims and Dalits. Even sikhism.

lol why are you derailing the thread? this thread is about china not India, i would rather be born in india then tibet or
xinjiang region

US Lawmakers Urge Trump to Raise Tibet and Human Rights Issues With Xi


Senators Ben Cardin and Marco Rubio said that a failure of US leadership on human rights issues in Tibet is not a good message for the US to send to China, its allies in the region, and the world.

US President Donald Trump attends a meeting at the White House in Washington, US, March 31, 2017. Credit: Jonathan Ernst/Reuters/Files

Washington: A bipartisan group of lawmakers have urged US President Donald Trump to raise the issue of human rights violations in China, in particular those related to Tibet when he meets his Chinese counterpart this week.

Simultaneously, influential US lawmakers have introduced legislations in both the House of Representatives and the Senate, to promote access by Americans to Tibetan areas, which is routinely denied by Chinese authorities.

The Reciprocal Access to Tibet Act was introduced in the Senate by senators Marco Rubio and Tammy Baldwin, while in the House of Representatives, it was introduced by congressmen Jim McGovern and Randy Hultgren.

Trump will host his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping at his Mar-a-Lago residence in Florida from April 6 to 7.

“The crackdown on civil society and deterioration of rule of law in China in the past few years appears to signal a systematic effort by the Chinese Communist Party leadership to tighten its controls on free expression and undermine the will of its own people,” senators Ben Cardin and Rubio wrote in a joint letter to the secretary of state Rex Tillerson.

They said the US should not simply stand by idly as these universal rights are abrogated and the Chinese people suffer the consequences. A failure of US leadership on these issues is not a good message for the US to send to China, its allies in the region, and the world, they said.

“We hope you will urge China to do more to improve the cultural and spiritual plight of Tibetans, not just their economic status. Just like in Tibet, China appears unwilling to comply with its international human rights commitments in Xinjiang, where Uighurs continue to report systemic torture, and restrictions on religious freedom,” they said.

In a statement, McGovern said America needs to stand up for human rights at home and abroad.

“If the US is serious about protecting human rights in Tibet, we need to do more than talk the talk we need to walk the walk. This bill will ensure there are consequences for China’s repressive policies,” McGovern said.

“The Chinese government’s oppression of Tibet includes keeping it off limits to Americans, journalists and others who can shine a bright light on the human rights violations committed daily against the Tibetan people,” said Rubio, chair of the Congressional-Executive Commission on China.

“We should not accept a double standard where Chinese officials can freely visit anywhere in the US while they block our diplomats, journalists and Tibetan-Americans from visiting Tibet,” he said. He added that the bipartisan bill will hold China accountable for its oppression. According to him it will also make it clear that if Chinese officials want to enjoy the privilege of entering the US, they must allow equal access to Tibet.

Welcoming the congressional legislation, Matteo Mecacci, president of International Campaign for Tibet, said this bill is another example of the consistent support the US congress has for Tibet.

https://thewire.in/121697/us-lawmakers-trump-tibet-xi/

 

[patman]

China fooling citizens about my visit, Dalai Lama says

WANG: The Dalai Lama on Saturday hit out at China, accusing it of fooling its own people by spreading falsehood about his journey to Tawang, which the Communist country claims as its own.

Until now, the 82-year-old Tibetan leader had been mild in his reaction to Beijing's relentless criticism of his visit to this border town situated 47km south of the McMahon Line that separates India and Tibet.

"I wish one Chinese official were here to see what I'm doing and what I'm saying. The Chinese people, who are about 1.4 billion-strong, have every right to know the reality," he said, adding, "Once they know the reality, they will be able to judge... Until now, there has been only onesided, wrong information.

They (the Chinese government) are only fooling their people." He was speaking to the media after a three-hour discourse attended by about 20,000 people from Arunachal Pradesh, other states and neighbouring Bhutan.

On his return to Tibet, the Dalai Lama said, "As soon as China gives the green light, I will to return to Tibet. At the moment, the Chinese government is very negative because of some hardliner officials." "I've long forgiven China's Communist government for occupying Tibet.

But as long as problems in Tibet lie unsolved, Dalai Lama will remain a sensitive issue for China," he said. "Whether the Chinese government admits it or not, there are problems in Tibet. You (China) have to solve these problems for our common interest."

The Dalai Lama said, "There's a middle path approach to it (meaning autonomy for Tibet). China and Tibet have had a close relationship for thousands of years. We support One China policy and we want to be inside the People's Republic of China.

All we want is the right to preserve our culture, language and identity," he said. He added, "The whole world knows that I am not seeking independence of Tibet but China still repeats it."

"In the long run, India, China, Pakistan and even Japan and Afghanistan can form a union. Smaller unions can join bigger unions and can form one family with common interest...

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They have been fooling around their citizens sine 1949 and now started doing the same with the world community with their economic/ military power and dwindling what little morality they had..!!nanksn

I felt uncomfortable when Britain broke away from the European Union. In a union, there will be no war... the spirit of the European Union should start in Africa so it can end civil war and hunger. A similar union should start in Latin America too."

Meanwhile, Lhundup Chosang, a local RSS member has been campaigning for a Bharat Ratna for the Tibetan leader.



http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...isit-dalai-lama-says/articleshow/58088347.cms

 

[patman]

US democratic leader Pelosi demands Trump raise Tibet during Xi's visit






US House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi. Photo: file

Dharamshala — Just days before the first meeting of United States President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping, House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi sent a letter to President Trump, urging him to raise the issue of human rights in China to President Xi in support of those persecuted for their religious and political beliefs.
As Leader Pelosi writes, “I believe, Mr. President, that if we do not speak out clearly for human rights in China because of commercial interests, we lose all moral authority to speak out for human rights anyplace in the world.”

“Since Tiananmen Square, attention has focused on China’s dismal human rights record. Under President Xi, it has worsened. China persecutes the faithful, removing 1,200 crosses from churches and other buildings, in some cases destroying places of worship entirely, and arresting those who resist. It suppresses activists who support democratic reform in Hong Kong, imprisons human rights lawyers, and perpetrates disappearances and torture.”

“President Xi’s government works to control and eliminate the Tibetan culture and religion, including through the gross mistreatment of nuns and monks and even the demolition of the Larung Gar monastery. The Dalai Lama is revered for his spirituality across the world, which has led the Chinese government to fear him and imprison those who express respect for him.”

“The violations of human rights in China and Tibet challenge the conscience of the world. If we are to be true to our values, we cannot ignore that challenge nor forget the long list of those imprisoned for their religious and political beliefs, including Nobel Peace Prize winner Liu Xiaobo.”


http://www.thetibetpost.com/en/news...si-demands-trump-raise-tibet-during-xis-visit

 

[DineshS]

speaking too prematurely is not a good sign, has the dollar rama not taught you?

Use a better Chinese to English conversion software...
What ever you are using is not working well.

 

[terranMarine]

Use a better Chinese to English conversion software...
What ever you are using is not working well.

what part don't you understand my hindu friend? dollar rama is well known celebrity hiding inside India

 

[DineshS]

The whole India is turbulent and oppressed, and now they pretend to be saints in PDF.

I Agree with this assertion to some extent.

Some sections of India have been pandered to by previous Indian govts and were given a free hand to do what ever they want.
The current govt though is correcting it and making law and order the supreme.

As usual you can see the usual suspects in our society NOT liking law and order to be supreme.

 

[patman]

Tibet protest - Market st 3 10 2017

 

[SBUS-CXK]

I Agree with this assertion to some extent.

Some sections of India have been pandered to by previous Indian govts and were given a free hand to do what ever they want.
The current govt though is correcting it and making law and order the supreme.

As usual you can see the usual suspects in our society NOT liking law and order to be supreme.

I am glad to see more and more Indians in china.

 

[terranMarine]

I am glad to see more and more Indians in china.

I don't

 

[DineshS]

I am glad to see more and more Indians in china.

Let me be frank..
I have met, worked with and socialized with many Chinese people for over 20 years and I have nothing but good things to say about them.

What ever the politics is, people of both countries are friendly with each other.

In fact I have never felt awkward with a Chinese that I feel when I interact with certain few nationals. I have no idea how our two countries reached where we are now, considering how close and how similar our civilizations are.

 

[patman]

China: Major Tibetan Buddhist Institution Faces Further Demolitions

China: Major Tibetan Buddhist Institution Faces Further Demolitions
Halt ‘Re-education,’ Humiliation of Monks, Nuns

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(New York) – Chinese authorities should halt the expulsion and political re-education of monks and nuns from a major Tibetan religious institution, Human Rights Watch said today. According to a statement by an abbot of the institution, Chinese officials announced on March 12, 2017, that 3,225 homes at Larung Gar, the world’s largest Tibetan Buddhist institution, would be torn down by April 30.


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Tibetan nuns dressed in full military fatigues, carrying out a military-style exercise inside a walled compound.

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Many of the monks and nuns already expelled from Larung Gar and the nearby religious community at Yachen Gar, both in Tibetan areas of Sichuan province, have been forced to return to the Tibet Autonomous Region (TAR) and subjected to exceptional restrictions on their liberty and to degrading treatment. In November 2016, the authorities forced at least one group to undergo political re-education and apparent public humiliation in Nyingtri (Linzhi in Chinese), in southeastern TAR.

“China is aggressively dismantling religious freedom along with religious life at Larung Gar by subjecting many expelled monks and nuns to forced re-education,” said Sophie Richardson, China director at Human Rights Watch. “The restrictions imposed on former residents should be removed so they can exercise fully their rights to religious practice, including freely joining religious institutions and observing religious rituals.”

A senior abbot said in a speech to the community on March 23 that the monks and nuns “who have left had never wanted to leave... And whether or not they had some place to go, they still had to leave.” He added that “the demolitions and expulsions come from the policy of the senior levels of government, and cannot be discussed” and called on all monks and nuns to “show great forbearance and not react with protest, suicide and the like.”


China is aggressively dismantling religious freedom along with religious life at Larung Gar by subjecting many expelled monks and nuns to forced re-education.
Sophie Richardson
China Director

Foreign media reported that the TAR authorities subjected 100 monks and nuns, believed to have been expelled from Larung Gar, to political “re-education” in Nyingtri municipality in November. A video circulated on social media shows 25 young Tibetan women with shaven heads, who appear to be nuns, dressed in military jackets and standing in rows inside a police or government office decorated in Tibetan style. The women are chanting in unison, “The Tibetans and the Chinese are daughters of the same mother, the name of the mother is China,” part of a song often used by officials in Tibet to propagate the view that Tibetans are genetically or culturally Chinese. A photograph circulated at the same time shows the same women, dressed in full military fatigues, carrying out a military-style exercise inside a walled compound.

A second video, circulated a few days after the first, shows 12 Tibetan nuns dancing on the stage of a theater in front of what appears to be an audience of officials. The nuns, dressed in religious robes, perform a choreographed dance routine to the song, “The Song of the Emancipated Serfs.” The song is associated with official Communist Party celebrations and was originally performed in front of Chairman Mao Zedong in Beijing in 1959. A banner above the stage reads “Graduation Art Show for the Law and Politics Training Course for Buddhist Monks and Nuns, Kongpo Gyamda County.” Kongpo Gyamda county (Gongbujiangda in Chinese) is in Nyingtri municipality, and the video is believed to have been filmed there on November 10, 2016.


The women are chanting in unison, “The Tibetans and the Chinese are daughters of the same mother, the name of the mother is China,” part of a song often used by officials in Tibet to propagate the view that Tibetans are genetically or culturally Chinese.

The timing and circumstances of the two videos and the photograph indicate that the women pictured are Tibetan nuns expelled in 2016 from Larung Gar or Yachen Gar. Buddhist nuns usually make a commitment to “refrain from singing, dancing, and viewing entertainments” as the sixth of the 10 sramenerika or novice vows taken by nuns or monks when they are first ordained. This strongly suggests that these performances were coerced and that officials required these nuns to sing and dance to humiliate or embarrass them. The use of forced singing and dancing as part of political re-education for expelled nuns is not known to have occurred previously in the TAR.

The government’s apparent treatment of these nuns violates their rights to freedom of religion but also amounts to degrading treatment prohibited under the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, to which China is a party.

In late summer 2016, two nuns known to Human Rights Watch, who had been expelled from Larung Gar and returned forcibly to the TAR, were not allowed to remain in Lhasa, where they had previously lived for many years, but were forced to return to the village of their birth in a rural area of southern Tibet. The authorities required them to report at regular intervals to the local police station and did not allow them to join any nunneries or institutions in the TAR or elsewhere.

Other sources have told Human Rights Watch that no former monks and nuns who have been returned to the TAR are allowed to join any monastery or nunnery there, which means they are considered to be “mobile religious personnel.” Since an official announcement in September 2012, such unaffiliated monks and nuns are not permitted to carry out religious rituals in the TAR outside their own homes unless they have a special permit. This means that the returned monks and nuns cannot carry out religious services for others, which would constitute their normal source of income, and that Tibetans in the TAR face increasing difficulties in finding religious practitioners to recite prayers at funerals and other family events.

In June 2016, the local government in Serta county, Sichuan, ordered the monks running Larung Gar to begin reducing its occupant numbers to a maximum of 5,000 by September 2017. The institution is estimated to have had between 10,000 and 20,000 occupants before evictions began. It is unclear whether the March 12 decision requiring the demolition of 3,225 homes includes the 1,500 or more homes that have already been demolished. So far, 4,500 residents have been forced to leave, according to the March 23 statement from a senior abbot.

Authorities appear to have made certain concessions in response to requests from the monastery regarding the demolition and eviction procedures at Larung Gar, including unconfirmed reports that some monks and nuns there were compensated for their demolished homes, and that approximately 1,200 expelled nuns have been rehoused in four temporary camps in neighboring counties within Qinghai and Sichuan provinces. But the demolitions and evictions remain a violation of the community members’ rights of religious freedom and practice.

In November 2016, seven experts from the United Nations wrote to the Chinese government requesting detailed information regarding the mass expulsion of Tibetan, Chinese, and other monks and nuns from the monastic settlements at Larung Gar and Yachen Gar. The statement also asked the government to provide information about the legal grounds for the demolitions and expulsions, and what steps had been taken to resettle or rehouse those made homeless. It also requested an explanation about the reported lack of consultation with local religious leaders, the rationale for involving government officials in monastic affairs, and what steps authorities would take to ensure the right of religious freedom.

The UN has said that the Chinese government replied to these requests on December 5, 2016. The UN should publicly release China’s reply.

“China’s conduct at Larung Gar and Yachen Gar shows a cruel and unyielding disrespect for religious freedom,” Richardson said. “Chinese authorities can undo some of the harm by halting the destruction of this community, fairly addressing the needs of the religious community, and providing transparent explanations about its conduct at Larung Gar and in Nyingtri.”

https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/03/29...uddhist-institution-faces-further-demolitions

 

[terranMarine]

Let me be frank..
I have met, worked with and socialized with many Chinese people for over 20 years and I have nothing but good things to say about them.

What ever the politics is, people of both countries are friendly with each other.

In fact I have never felt awkward with a Chinese that I feel when I interact with certain few nationals. I have no idea how our two countries reached where we are now, considering how close and how similar our civilizations are.

hey don't start to insult China now, we don't have similar civilizations. China was way more advanced than your people (when India didn't even exist). , we have totally different cultures, customs, norms, habits