China versus France which is more powerful?

[Superboy]

China:

area over 9,000 thousand square kilometers

poplation over 1,000 million

good coastline

makes nukes

makes military hardware like J-10B fighters, KJ-2000 AWACs, 093 and 095 nuclear attack subs, 041 Yuan conventional attack subs, 094 nuclear ballistic missile subs, H-6K bombers, H-6U aerial tankers, CH-3 aerial drones, 052D and 055 destroyers, 054A frigates, 056 corvettes, 022 patrol boats, 002 aircraft carriers, Type 99 tanks, QBZ-95 rifles, HQ-9 air defense systems, Z-10 attack helicopters, Z-19 recon helicopters, Z-8 and Z-9 multi role helicopters, Y-9 and Y-20 transport planes, 071 amphibious warfare ships


France:

area under 700 thousand square kilometers

population 66 million

good coastline

makes nukes

makes military hardware like Rafale fighters, Barracuda nuclear attack subs, FREMM frigates, nuclear aircraft carrier, Leclerc tanks, FAMAS rifles, Tiger attack helicopters, Dauphin and Puma multi role helicopters, Scorpene conventional attack subs, Mistral amphibious warfare ships

 

[Gabriel92]

Since we do not have DSI,i'll say China.

 

[Superboy]

I'm not familiar with French military. If I missed something please fill me in.

 

[Established_1965]

War with France means China needs to fight NATO .

 

[Established_1965]

French army isn't here to make war with anyone,it is here to project the French people,interests,and join allies in joint operations,not to provoke any country..... maybe in his dreams.
Good point too.

and it will be a World War 3 situation. 1st World vs 2nd World and as usual 3rd World will be neutral but dragged to war later on by 1st World

 

[Aepsilons]

The French, hands down.

 

[Established_1965]

I don't know if anyone knows this but French army has a reputation of being Weak-kneed

 

[Aepsilons]

Good point.
Also,the French army isn't here to make war with anyone,it is here to project the French people,interests,and join allies in joint operations,not to provoke any country..... i don't get the point of this thread ?

Any country that fights with France fights not just France, but NATO, and the Japanese.

I don't know if anyone knows this but French army has a reputation of being Weak-kneed

False. Please don't make reference to WW2, that is just one war, and the French literally fought hundreds.

By far, the French and the Prussians (Germans) share a proud history as the greatest armies in continental Europe.

List of wars involving France - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Emperor of France, Napoleon, hailed by the Imperial Old Guard.

 

[Superboy]

War with France means China needs to fight NATO .

What makes you think so? Argentina took over Falklands and Britain had to fight Argentina all by itself.

 

[gambit]

Good point.
Also,the French army isn't here to make war with anyone,it is here to project the French people,interests,and join allies in joint operations,not to provoke any country..... i don't get the point of this thread ?

DSI-boy make these bandwidth wasting threads just to make himself look semi-intelligent.

 

[Aepsilons]

What makes you think so? Argentina took over Falklands and Britain had to fight Argentina all by itself.

Britain didn't need help to eviscerate the Argentine Armed Forces. The British Royal Navy and British Army + SAS were already enough to break the Argentine Armed Forces, which led to the collapse of the Argentine Military Government after the war. The Falkland war was an unprecedented victory for the United Kingdom of Great Britain; politically, diplomatically and geostrategically.

 

[Superboy]

Britain didn't need help to eviscerate the Argentine Armed Forces. The British Royal Navy and British Army + SAS were already enough to break the Argentine Armed Forces, which led to the collapse of the Argentine Military Government after the war. The Falkland war was an unprecedented victory for the United Kingdom of Great Britain; politically, diplomatically and geostrategically.

Britain could have lost the war with Argentina. It had 1 carrier. The carrier could have been sunk. The point is, no one helped Britian. Argentina was no joke either.

NATO says, an attack against 1 is an attack against all, it does NOT say anyone has to help.

 

[Gabriel92]

Any country that fights with France fights not just France, but NATO, and the Japanese.






False. Please don't make reference to WW2, that is just one war, and the French literally fought hundreds.

By far, the French and the Prussians (Germans) share a proud history as the greatest armies in continental Europe.

List of wars involving France - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


View attachment 203031 The Emperor of France, Napoleon, hailed by the Imperial Old Guard.

We have fought many wars since our existence. France would not be France and would not exist if the french military was a bunch of coward surrendering monkeys and weak. Actually the tradition of the french military is deep and some painful defeats and glorious victories made what our military is. Yes the cliché about surrender,in our history,it wasn't the soldiers that were "surrender monkeys",but it is the politicians that were surrendering.
The propaganda about French were surrendering monkeys was high after we refused to go to Iraq with the us,for good reasons,and the haters can say whatever they want,it won't change anything,i have worked with many US soldiers in Afghanistan,and were always angry when someone was saying that we were a bunch of cowards...
Saying this is an insult to all those who fought and died protecting our motherland,it is an insult to those who fought in Verdun.... and all other battles,an insult to our military history that is envied by many..
(Adolf Hitler responded to the journalist Lutz Koch, (concerning the french troops) coming back from Bir Hakim: “You hear, Gentlemen? It is a new evidence that I have always been right! The French are, after us, the best soldiers! Even with its current birthrate, France will always be able to mobilize a hundred divisions! After this war, we will have to find allies able to contain a country which is able of military exploits that astonish the world like they are doing right now in Bir-Hakeim!”. Rommel himself declared that “nowhere in Africa was I given a stiffer fight”.)

 

[feilong]

Why China want to fight the France, we like France. Only the Jap need to be taught a good lesson.

 

[Aepsilons]

Britain could have lost the war with Argentina. It had 1 carrier. The carrier could have been sunk. The point is, no one helped Britian. Argentina was no joke either.

Military history is not about 'what ifs', its about realities on the ground. Compared to Royal Navy, however, which was still one of the world’s foremost navies, there was quite a gap in terms of both equipment and training.

First, the Argentine Navy was almost completely unprepared for anti-submarine warfare. In April, the British established a blockade around the Falkland Islands, 200 nautical miles off its coast, which completely severed maritime communications between the islands and the Argentine mainland, with the exception of a few ships which managed to penetrate the blockade.

In addition, on May 2, the ARA (Armada de la República Argentina) General Belgrano, an Argentine cruiser, was sunk by the British nuclear submarine HMS Conqueror. Thereafter, the Argentine Navy never ventured beyond Argentina’s territorial waters. Since the Argentine Navy retired to the safety of Argentina’s territorial waters without seriously engaging in anti-submarine warfare, which is one of the most important missions of any modern navy, it was guilty of not only military ill-preparedness or negligence, but virtually of a crime against the Argentine nation, especially in view of the fact that it was an enthusiastic proponent of the seizure of the Malvinas in the first place.