China unveils terrifying Dongfeng-41 nuke that ‘can strike US in 30 minutes with TEN warheads

[beijingwalker]

If you rise too fast, even you want to be peaceful, other powers won't allow you, one goes up, another one must come down.

 

[Viet]

If you rise too fast, even you want to be peaceful, other powers won't allow you, one goes up, another one must come down.

Extremely unlikely that the existing power will back down!

Didn’t the UK back down before rising Nazi Germany?

Didn’t Carthage back down before rising Rome?

No

You should prepare for the showdown with the US.

Good luck

 

[beijingwalker]

Extremely unlikely that the existing power will back down!

Didn’t the UK back down before rising Nazi Germany?

Didn’t Carthage back down before rising Rome?

No

You should prepare for the showdown with the US.

Good luck

US used to quietly overtake European powers, of course no one wants to go down, but that's how history goes, powers rise and fall, no one can always stay on top.

 

[zectech]

Google j-20. And you will get your answer.

And should google Chinese SAMs and radars that can track F-22s at hundreds of km away.

Stealth aircraft are better for defense than attack. SAMs have to be knocked out first, for first rate SAMs can track and destroy stealth aircraft. And F-22s are not good against other stealth aircraft.

Stealth does not mean invisible, like many are of the false opinion. Stealth means lower visibility. F-35 was hit by a S-200s. F-117 was hit by another SAM. These are stealth aircraft. They are no match for air defenses. So stealth is for defense, not offense. Unless it is an attack against Morocco.

 

[Viet]

US used to quietly overtake European powers, of course no one wants to go down, but that's how history goes, powers rise and fall, no one can always stay on top.

But the problem is, no serious military power, be small or big, will back down (Ok unless you are Dr M). Worse, the PLA lacks fighting experience unlike the US army. The last war the PLA fought against Vietnam goes back 40 years ago, we remember.

I expect Xi will seek firstly a war with a smaller opponent such as Indonesia (did they claim ASEAN leader?) before face the showdown with the US.

 

[beijingwalker]

But the problem is, no serious military power, be small or big, will back down (Ok unless you are Dr M). The PLA lacks fighting experience unlike the US army. The war the PLA fought against Vietnam goes back 40 years ago.

I expect Xi will seek firstly a war with a smaller opponent such as Indonesia (did they claim ASEAN leader?) before face the showdown with the US.

There'll be no war between China and US, and neither of us want to fight each other, that is plain to see.

 

[Longhorn]

it is clear message to u.s and india,indian army should come out of dream of fighting and winning war with china,india stands nowhere infront of china and is continuously underestimating china.

No worries there.
Bullies never pick on anyone bigger than themselves.
They can just about manage Pakistan on a good day.

 

[Ansu fati]

Do they have anything to counter F-22? I doubt it.

F-22 is the best 5th generation fighter but it’s not intended for long range operations that being said against china it is useless

 

[beijingwalker]

7 intimidating images from China's 70th anniversary show just how powerful its military has become
Ellen Ioanes

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• China's Communist Party celebrated its seventh decade in power on October 1.
• It held a massive military parade in Beijing's Tiananmen Square, featuring 15,000 military personnel, as well as a number of new weapons technologies.
• On display were a new long-range bomber and hypersonic missiles, an area in which China's military technology appears to lead the world.

The Chinese Communist Party celebrated 70 years in power on October 1 by staging a massive parade, complete with 15,000 marching military personnel and some of its most advanced weapons technology.

China is leading the pack on hypersonic technology, as Daniel Kliman, director of the the Asia-Pacific Security Program at the Center for a New American Security, previously told Insider. Two new missile systems — the DF-41 and the DF-17, which are thought to travel 25 and five times the speed of sound respectively — were paraded through Tiananmen Square on Tuesday.

From stealth drones to long-range bombers, see what the CCP showed off to celebrate its seventh decade.

The Gongji-11 unmanned combat drone made its debut at the October 1 parade.

A Chinese military truck carrying an aerial vehicle rolls during a parade to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the founding of Communist China in Beijing, Tuesday, Oct. 1, 2019.
Mark Schiefelbein / Associated Press
According to The Wall Street Journal, the Gongji-11 is a combat drone designed to evade detection by enemy radar, much like the manned B-2 Spirit bomber it closely resembles.

Elsa Kania, a research fellow focused on Chinese military innovation at Georgetown University's Center for Security and Emerging Technology, told The Wall Street Journal that the Gongji-11 could be deployed on the PLA Navy's aircraft carriers, as China looks toward UAVs and other autonomous vehicles in combat.

The US Navy, along similar lines, showed that an unmanned combat drone could take-off and land aboard an aircraft carrier earlier this decade.

The DR-8 supersonic drone showed up to the parade, too.

A Chinese military truck carrying an aerial vehicle rolls during a parade to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the founding of Communist China in Beijing, Tuesday, Oct. 1, 2019.
Mark Schiefelbein / Associated Press
The DR-8, or WZ-8, is a reconnaissance drone that China can use to infiltrate enemy airspace and gather intelligence — including determining the damage done by some of China's ballistic missiles, The Wall Street Journal reports.

The DF-17 missile is thought to be able to travel at more than five times the speed of sound.

Military vehicles, carrying DF-17, roll down as members of a Chinese military honor guard march during the parade to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the founding of Communist China in Beijing, Tuesday, Oct. 1, 2019. China's military has shown off a new hypersonic ballistic nuclear missile believed capable of breaching all existing anti-missile shields deployed by the U.S. and its allies. The vehicle-mounted DF-17 was among weapons displayed Tuesday in a massive military parade marking the 70th anniversary of the founding of the Chinese state.(AP Photo/Ng Han Guan)
Associated Press
As The Wall Street Journal reports, it's designed to bypass enemy missile defense systems by traveling at speeds more than 3,400 miles per hour at low altitudes.

The PLA Air Force's H-6N has added an aerial refueling probe.

An air echelon of refueling aircrafts takes part in a grand military parade celebrating the 70th anniversary of the founding of the People's Republic of China in Beijing, capital of China, Oct. 1, 2019.
Li Gang/Xinhua via Getty
The PLA Air Force's long-range strategic bomber was also on display during the parade, according to Flight Global.

The H-6N could be used to deter US aircraft carriers venturing into the South China Sea.

The DF-41 is China's hypersonic intercontinental ballistic missile, which is reportedly able to strike targets as far as the United States.

The Dong Feng 41 rolls past during a parade for the 70th anniversary of the founding of the People's Republic of China in Beijing on Tuesday, Oct. 1, 2019. Dong Feng 41, or DF-41, is an intercontinental ballistic missile with a range of 15,000 kilometers (9,300 miles) -- China's longest-range weapon -- that could reach the United States in 30 minutes.
Ng Han Guan / Associated Press
The DF-41 has an estimated range of up to 9,320 miles, allowing it to reach anywhere in the United States in about 30 minutes.

"It's China's most responsive and flexible strategic nuclear system, capable of hurling multiple nuclear warheads to the entirety of the United States," Ankit Panda, an adjunct senior fellow at the Federation of American Scientists, told The Wall Street Journal.

According to the Associated Press, some analysts believe the nuclear-capable missile can travel up to 25 times the speed of sound.

https://www.businessinsider.com/7-i...-strike-targets-as-far-as-the-united-states-6

 

[LeGenD]

And should google Chinese SAMs and radars that can track F-22s at hundreds of km away.

Sure.

Guess what is the rcs range of F-22A Raptor.

There is difference between claims and what physics tells you.

Now factor-in F-22A's ability to suppress/degrade radars on the surface, and also American specilization in surveillance as well as standoff munitions. You understand where this is going?

Stealth aircraft are better for defense than attack. SAMs have to be knocked out first, for first rate SAMs can track and destroy stealth aircraft. And F-22s are not good against other stealth aircraft.

LMAO

VLO aircraft are designed to penetrate and/or disrupt defenses of all manner.

Stealth does not mean invisible, like many are of the false opinion. Stealth means lower visibility. F-35 was hit by a S-200s. F-117 was hit by another SAM. These are stealth aircraft. They are no match for air defenses. So stealth is for defense, not offense. Unless it is an attack against Morocco.

Of-course, stealth does not imply invisibility, but advances in stealth are making it possible to penetrate and/or disrupt heavily guarded spaces with minimum losses, and pave way for larger set of operations in same spaces subsequently. Understand the difference.

F-35 was never struck in Syria, this assertion is not proven. Do you realize how massive S-200 interceptor is? It would have obliterated the jet with a single hit.

Israel have successfully utilized F-35A to strike at structures housing Iranian equipment in some of the most secure spaces in Syria without any issue, but did not publicize these actions. Although Syrian sources have suspected as much. Syria also lost a functional Chinese YJ-21 radar system in one of these strikes, and this is one of the finest radar systems out there.

An F-117A was downed by enemy fire only once in hundreds of its sorties over Yugoslavia (now Serbia). People foolishly overlook the bigger picture.

F-117A sorties-to-loss ratio over Serbia = 800+ : 1

F-117A sorties-to-loss ratio over Iraq = 1300+ : 0

And the relatively far more advanced B-2 Spirit pummeled Serbia unlike any other jet without a single loss. Even today, there are visible reminders of damage in Serbia from B-2 sorties.

Google j-20. And you will get your answer.

J-20 is at LRIP stage (very low in numbers) at present, and feature a mix of Russian and Chinese parts although engines are still Russian. It will not be ready to confront F-22A head on anytime soon. J-20 is better optimized for LO principles than Russian Su-57, but China need to equip J-20 with LO-optimized engines to enable it for penetrative missions over its regional adversaries such as Taiwan and Vietnam if the need arise; China is developing and testing WS-15 engines for the needful.

When complete, J-20 is expected to be close to F-35 in warfighting capabilities but still a very different bird in comparison.

Too early to judge J-20 due to low publicity until WE see it in action. It might surprise all but WE are swimming in speculatory territory at present.

 

[mike2000 is back]

J-20 is at LRIP stage (very low in numbers) at present, and feature Russian parts and engines. It will not be ready to confront F-22A head on anytime soon. J-20 is better optimized for LO principles than Russian Su-57, but China need to equip J-20 with LO-optimized engines to enable it for penetrative missions over its regional adversaries such as Taiwan and Vietnam if the need arise.

When complete, J-20 will be close to F-35 in capabilities but still a very different bird. Too early to judge J-20 at present.

Engine is the main issue for China and the J-20

 

[maximuswarrior]

Feeling immensely proud and happy for our Chinese brothers and sisters. This is hard work folks. The returns are incredible.

Engine is the main issue for China and the J-20

You know nothing about China Yindu.

 

[SABRE]

DF-17 hyperglide is more significant than DF-41. One warhead is enough to make US missile shield redundant.

It is indeed quite a remarkable missile system. But it's speculated range is ~2000km. Not long enough to reach mainland US but certainly long enough to target US military assets in the Asia Pacific. Pakistan should also embark on this design.

 

[BringHarmony]

Guess what is the rcs range of F-22A Raptor.

There is difference between claims and what physics tells you.

Now factor-in F-22A's ability to suppress/degrade radars on the surface, and also American specilization in surveillance as well as standoff munitions. You understand where this is going?

RCS of F22 will be in range of 0.0001 - 0.0002 meter square. Meaning, your grand Chinese radars will be detecting it only from 20-30 KM, if the graphs you posted are correct.

Meanwhile, F-22 will take out your Chinese platforms from a safe distance of 100-130 KM.

 

[maximuswarrior]

RCS of F22 will be in range of 0.0001 - 0.0002 meter square. Meaning, your grand Chinese radars will be detecting it only from 20-30 KM, if the graphs you posted are correct.

Meanwhile, F-22 will take out your Chinese platforms from a safe distance of 100-130 KM.

LOL just like Pakistan cannot hit Indian airbases. Stupid fool.