China shows off advanced ship missile defence system

[Raphael]

China shows off advanced ship missile defence system | South China Morning Post

China has shown off the People's Liberation Army's latest hardware on primetime state television, an advanced short-range missile defence system said to have a “high success rate” destroying incoming missiles and aircraft.

The Hongqi-10 (Reg Flag 10) surface-to-air missile was shown in China Central Television's evening news bulletin Wednesday being fired from ships and land-based mobile launchers, and exploding in the sky on impact with its target.

It will protect warships against rockets over a limited area, and will be used alongside an “area defence system” which covers a larger area but has a slower response time, the state-run Global Times newspaper said Thursday.

“As a naval point defence missile system, HongQi-10 boasts a particularly quick response to low-altitude missiles that area defence systems fail to intercept,” it quoted Lan Yun, deputy chief editor of monthly journal Modern Ships, as saying.

It cited him adding that it had a high success rate in hitting its targets.

Incoming missiles only 1.5-10 metres above sea level can be targeted with the new system, which takes only 10 seconds to launch, Lan said.

The missiles can also used to protect ground forces from air attacks by ”jets, unmanned aerial vehicles and cruise missiles”, the Global Times report said, citing an expert.
The Hongqi-10, whose export version is known as FL-3000N, has been installed on some of China's most advanced warships including the 1,300-tonne Type 056 frigates and 7,000-tonne Type 052D destroyers, Chinese media have reported.

Beijing has been increasing its military might and naval reach in recent years, and President Xi Jinping regularly urges the country to strengthen its ability to “win battles”.

 

[Zarvan]

China shows off advanced ship missile defence system | South China Morning Post

China has shown off the People's Liberation Army's latest hardware on primetime state television, an advanced short-range missile defence system said to have a “high success rate” destroying incoming missiles and aircraft.

The Hongqi-10 (Reg Flag 10) surface-to-air missile was shown in China Central Television's evening news bulletin Wednesday being fired from ships and land-based mobile launchers, and exploding in the sky on impact with its target.

It will protect warships against rockets over a limited area, and will be used alongside an “area defence system” which covers a larger area but has a slower response time, the state-run Global Times newspaper said Thursday.

“As a naval point defence missile system, HongQi-10 boasts a particularly quick response to low-altitude missiles that area defence systems fail to intercept,” it quoted Lan Yun, deputy chief editor of monthly journal Modern Ships, as saying.

It cited him adding that it had a high success rate in hitting its targets.

Incoming missiles only 1.5-10 metres above sea level can be targeted with the new system, which takes only 10 seconds to launch, Lan said.

The missiles can also used to protect ground forces from air attacks by ”jets, unmanned aerial vehicles and cruise missiles”, the Global Times report said, citing an expert.
The Hongqi-10, whose export version is known as FL-3000N, has been installed on some of China's most advanced warships including the 1,300-tonne Type 056 frigates and 7,000-tonne Type 052D destroyers, Chinese media have reported.

Beijing has been increasing its military might and naval reach in recent years, and President Xi Jinping regularly urges the country to strengthen its ability to “win battles”.

Please post pictures and I thought most advanced Frigate which China had was Type 54 till now

 

[Brainsucker]

Type 056 is not a frigate. It is a Corvette. They call it 056 OPV.

 

[Aepsilons]

An impressive feat for our Chinese counterpart. Great Job

 

[Naval Strategist]

Can somebody tell about its range, speed etc

 

[cnleio]

An impressive feat for our Chinese counterpart. Great Job

A question, why Japan didn't buy American SEA-RAM defence system ? Even Germany bought it and install on their FFGs, i remember Korean too.

 

[Aepsilons]

Can somebody tell about its range, speed etc

It is a licensed copy of the Russian S-300 PMU-1 (SA-10D Grumble) designed to detect, track, and destroy incoming ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and low-flying aircraft. So, its performance stats would be within the range of accuracy and consistency of the Russian variant.

A question, why Japan didn't buy American SEA-RAM defence system ? Even Germany bought it and install on their FFGs, i remember Korean too.

Ships of the line in the JMSDF have systems in place that accomplishes the same operational purpose. For example, we already have installed and integrated the RGM-84 Harpoon SSM, SM-2MR SAM, SM-3 Block IA ABM, RUM-139 Vertical Launched ASROC, and multiple platforms of Phalanx CIWs.All of these increase the battle space for our ships.

What is being discussed and aggresively sought is the Tomahawk Cruise Missiles (or CM tech transfer) , which would be integrated into the 2 new Atago-Class AEGIS Destroyers to be built. This would then be integrated to all ships of the Atago Class, Kongo Class, Akizuki Class. There's also talks of continuing the operation of the Shirane Class Destroyer, so i'm thinking this would be integrated in these said classes. The point is, Offensive capability will be integrated.

 

[Akasa]

It is a licensed copy of the Russian S-300 PMU-1 (SA-10D Grumble) designed to detect, track, and destroy incoming ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and low-flying aircraft. So, its performance stats would be within the range of accuracy and consistency of the Russian variant.



Ships of the line in the JMSDF have systems in place that accomplishes the same operational purpose. For example, we already have installed and integrated the RGM-84 Harpoon SSM, SM-2MR SAM, SM-3 Block IA ABM, RUM-139 Vertical Launched ASROC, and multiple platforms of Phalanx CIWs.

What is being discussed and aggresively sought is the Tomahawk Cruise Missiles (or CM tech transfer) , which would be integrated into the 2 new Atago-Class AEGIS Destroyers to be built. This would then be integrated to all ships of the Atago Class, Kongo Class, Akizuki Class. There's also talks of continuing the operation of the Shirane Class Destroyer, so i'm thinking this would be integrated in these said classes.

The system described here is clearly not the "HQ-10" that is commonly dubbed as a S-300 derivative; rather, this is analogous to the Sea-RAM system used by the US and other NATO nations.

 

[Aepsilons]

The system described here is clearly not the "HQ-10" that is commonly dubbed as a S-300 derivative; rather, this is analogous to the Sea-RAM system used by the US and other NATO nations.

It operates the same technology, but converted for naval purposes.

 

[cnleio]

Ships of the line in the JMSDF have systems in place that accomplishes the same operational purpose. For example, we already have installed and integrated the RGM-84 Harpoon SSM, SM-2MR SAM, SM-3 Block IA ABM, RUM-139 Vertical Launched ASROC, and multiple platforms of Phalanx CIWs.All of these increase the battle space for our ships.

What is being discussed and aggresively sought is the Tomahawk Cruise Missiles (or CM tech transfer) , which would be integrated into the 2 new Atago-Class AEGIS Destroyers to be built. This would then be integrated to all ships of the Atago Class, Kongo Class, Akizuki Class. There's also talks of continuing the operation of the Shirane Class Destroyer, so i'm thinking this would be integrated in these said classes. The point is, Offensive capability will be integrated.

In my opinion, that 10~15km RAM system also belong to CIWS. As for JMSDF ships only has Phalanx, both Germany and Korea have RAM + Phalanx/Goalkeeper as the last defence system. Anyway RAM missile is also a good choice.

 

[Aepsilons]

In my opinion, that 10~15km RAM system also belong to CIWS. As for JMSDF ships only has Phalanx, both Germany and Korea have RAM + Phalanx/Goalkeeper as the last defence system. Anyway RAM missile is also a good choice.

I agree, it would be an added capability. These are all options to take into consideration during upgrades. So much to do ! lol

 

[applesauce]

It operates the same technology, but converted for naval purposes.

uh, s-300 is quite different from the sea-ram

the hq-10 (sino-ram) is not at all like the s-300

 

[Aepsilons]

uh, s-300 is quite different from the sea-ram

the hq-10 (sino-ram) is not at all like the s-300

Its reversed engineered technology, modified for naval assets. The technology behind is identical.

 

[Genesis]

Its reversed engineered technology, modified for naval assets. The technology behind is identical.

China never directly reverse engineer anymore. Why do I say this, we are simply not at that stage anymore, we will still take liberties here and there, what we do is take a design and change it with our requirements, the latest developments and more.

The HQ-10 is based on S-300 yes, but it is not S-300, consider it our "S-400," Russians came up with their upgrade and we did with ours.

To just reverse engineer today is actually not up to Chinese standards anymore.

If you think we just copied, name something in the Chinese inventory that is exactly alike to their counter part.

 

[tonyget]

It operates the same technology, but converted for naval purposes.

No, they are totally different systems

S-300/HQ-9 missiles are guided by ground radar, fire control system has limited channels, the number of incoming threats the system can engage at one time is limited.

SEA-RAM/HQ-10 on the other hand have no such limitation, the missiles utilize passive seekers(infrared and passive RF) to engage target