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Thursday was a very bad day for China’s economy, the world’s second-largest and a crucial pillar of the global economy, with credit markets freezing up in an unnerving parallel to the first days of the U.S. financial collapse. The question of how bad depends on whom you talk to, how much faith you have in Chinese leaders and, unfortunately, several factors that are largely unknowable. But we do know two things. First, Chinese leaders appear to be causing this problem deliberately, likely to try to avert a much worse problem. And, second, if this continues and even it works, it could see China’s economy finally cool after years of breakneck growth, with serious repercussions for the rest of us.

Things got so bad that the Bank of China has been fighting rumors all day that it defaulted on its loans; if true, this would risk bank runs and more defaults, not unlike the first days of the U.S. financial collapse. There’s no indication that the rumors are true, and no one is running on China’s banks. But the fact that the trouble has even gotten to this point is a sign of how potentially serious this could be.

Here’s what has happened: China’s credit market has been in a bubble for years, with too much lending and borrowing, similar to what happened in the United States during the financial crisis. All that lending helps grow the economy until, one day, the bubble bursts, and it all comes crashing down, as happened the United States. China’s economic growth has been slowing, making a similar a crisis more likely. Chinese leaders seem to be trying to prevent a disaster by basically popping the bubble, a kind of controlled mini-collapse meant to avoid The Big One.

In a real, uncontrolled credit crisis like the U.S. financial meltdown, credit suddenly freezes up, particularly between banks, meaning that the daily loans banks were relying on to do business are suddenly no longer affordable. Banks with too many unsafe loans suddenly owe more money than they can get their hands on, sometimes leading them to default or even collapse. And that means that it suddenly becomes much tougher for everyone else – companies that want to build new factories, families that went to buy a home – to borrow money. That’s an uncontrolled credit crisis, and a number of China-watchers have been worried that China, in its pursuit of constant breakneck growth, could be headed for one.

China’s central bank, which is likely to tamp down all that unsafe lending and over-borrowing before it leads to a crash, appears to have forced an artificial credit crisis. (It tested a more modest version just two weeks ago.) It looks like the People’s Bank of China has already tightened credit considerably, making it suddenly very difficult for banks to borrow money. Something called the seven-day bond repurchase rate, which indicates “liquidity” or the ease of borrowing money, shot way up to triple what it was two weeks ago.

This pair of charts, from the economics site Zero Hedge, shows the eerie parallels between today’s freeze-up in the Chinese interbank lending market and what happened in the United States when Lehman Brothers collapsed, setting off a global crisis that we’re still recovering from.

China’s economy is freezing up. How freaked out should we be?
 
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Thanks for worrying. Well, you had better worry about yourself at first.

China is doing fine.

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Thursday was a very bad day for China’s economy, the world’s second-largest and a crucial pillar of the global economy, with credit markets freezing up in an unnerving parallel to the first days of the U.S. financial collapse. The question of how bad depends on whom you talk to, how much faith you have in Chinese leaders and, unfortunately, several factors that are largely unknowable. But we do know two things. First, Chinese leaders appear to be causing this problem deliberately, likely to try to avert a much worse problem. And, second, if this continues and even it works, it could see China’s economy finally cool after years of breakneck growth, with serious repercussions for the rest of us.

Things got so bad that the Bank of China has been fighting rumors all day that it defaulted on its loans; if true, this would risk bank runs and more defaults, not unlike the first days of the U.S. financial collapse. There’s no indication that the rumors are true, and no one is running on China’s banks. But the fact that the trouble has even gotten to this point is a sign of how potentially serious this could be.

Here’s what has happened: China’s credit market has been in a bubble for years, with too much lending and borrowing, similar to what happened in the United States during the financial crisis. All that lending helps grow the economy until, one day, the bubble bursts, and it all comes crashing down, as happened the United States. China’s economic growth has been slowing, making a similar a crisis more likely. Chinese leaders seem to be trying to prevent a disaster by basically popping the bubble, a kind of controlled mini-collapse meant to avoid The Big One.

In a real, uncontrolled credit crisis like the U.S. financial meltdown, credit suddenly freezes up, particularly between banks, meaning that the daily loans banks were relying on to do business are suddenly no longer affordable. Banks with too many unsafe loans suddenly owe more money than they can get their hands on, sometimes leading them to default or even collapse. And that means that it suddenly becomes much tougher for everyone else – companies that want to build new factories, families that went to buy a home – to borrow money. That’s an uncontrolled credit crisis, and a number of China-watchers have been worried that China, in its pursuit of constant breakneck growth, could be headed for one.

China’s central bank, which is likely to tamp down all that unsafe lending and over-borrowing before it leads to a crash, appears to have forced an artificial credit crisis. (It tested a more modest version just two weeks ago.) It looks like the People’s Bank of China has already tightened credit considerably, making it suddenly very difficult for banks to borrow money. Something called the seven-day bond repurchase rate, which indicates “liquidity” or the ease of borrowing money, shot way up to triple what it was two weeks ago.

This pair of charts, from the economics site Zero Hedge, shows the eerie parallels between today’s freeze-up in the Chinese interbank lending market and what happened in the United States when Lehman Brothers collapsed, setting off a global crisis that we’re still recovering from.

China’s economy is freezing up. How freaked out should we be?
 
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Time for Turkistan to rise when tyranical government crumbles
 
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Not very didn't Indian me members say since China is export country our collapse means not only nothing but is a victory for the rest
 
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The old news is June 20, 2013, what is date today, indian obsessed?
Let us use real estate as example on how to understand this article.

- Home building permit is a LEADING indicator. The amount issued or denied hint at future growth in both home sales in particular and economic growth in general.

- Home construction is a COINCIDENTAL indicator. It basically says how many residences, apartments and single family homes, are currently under construction.

- Home sales is a LAGGING indicator. This figure is always compiled after a fixed period of time that contains the leading and coincidental indicators.

For example...

Economic Indicators: Housing Starts | Investopedia
Housing starts and building permits are both considered leading indicators,...
This news article, like most economic news articles, are lagging indicators. They are compiled by governments, banks, economists, and even personal investors. The larger the organization, the more resources they have at their disposal for economic intelligence gathering and analyses.

So instead of sneering at the date of 2013-06-20, which is pretty much recent and probably the data contains within is coincidental in some -- not all -- analyses, depending on the time spans involved, you should look at what the article says and try to recognize what kind of indicators are there.
 
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Let us use real estate as example on how to understand this article.

- Home building permit is a LEADING indicator. The amount issued or denied hint at future growth in both home sales in particular and economic growth in general.

- Home construction is a COINCIDENTAL indicator. It basically says how many residences, apartments and single family homes, are currently under construction.

- Home sales is a LAGGING indicator. This figure is always compiled after a fixed period of time that contains the leading and coincidental indicators.

For example...

Economic Indicators: Housing Starts | Investopedia

This news article, like most economic news articles, are lagging indicators. They are compiled by governments, banks, economists, and even personal investors. The larger the organization, the more resources they have at their disposal for economic intelligence gathering and analyses.

So instead of sneering at the date of 2013-06-20, which is pretty much recent and probably the data contains within is coincidental in some -- not all -- analyses, depending on the time spans involved, you should look at what the article says and try to recognize what kind of indicators are there.

Oh and BTW :) BBC News - China home prices continue to rise in July
 
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Its nothing new china artificial GDP growth that to wastage on GHOST CITIES,BUILDINGS...:laughcry:
 
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This will put an end to the tyranical and communist regime of China and let the indeginous people they occupy have a breath once central government breaks away. Hopefully the neighbor countries will be prepared when this happens to jump in and secure it.

Its nothing new china artificial GDP growth that to wastage on GHOST CITIES,BUILDINGS...:laughcry:

Amen. I mean how long do they think they will get away with copy-catting?
 
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