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Discussion of a possible sale via news from a Thai Youtube video on a Chinese Forum.
Any merit to this claim? (If so, it would allow the Chinese access to the Full AL-41 Technology, and other Russian technologies.) Any indication the Russians have any technology besides Engines, the Chinese want/need?
http://zzwave.com/plaboard/posts/3958945.shtml
 
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China does buy advanced weapon system from USSR like S400, Su35 and much more. But China is getting to the point where it will become self reliant.
 
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Discussion of a possible sale via news from a Thai Youtube video on a Chinese Forum.
Any merit to this claim? (If so, it would allow the Chinese access to the Full AL-41 Technology, and other Russian technologies.) Any indication the Russians have any technology besides Engines, the Chinese want/need?
http://zzwave.com/plaboard/posts/3958945.shtml
Doesn't China have J-20, and J-31?
 
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China does buy advanced weapon system from USSR like S400, Su35 and much more. But China is getting to the point where it will become self reliant.

I agree, but they may still be behind on their Engine Development goals, and this may give credibility to the claim they want to buy the Su-57, if only to get the AL-41. The AL-41F was tested to a thrust of 176 kn (~39,500 lb), and it supposedly powers the 24 Su-35 the PLAAF bought, so concievabley the full AL-41 should have a more powerful engine, and much closer to the goal for the WS-15 of 197 KN (44,000 lb)
http://www.leteckemotory.cz/motory/al-41/
 
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Doesn't China have J-20, and J-31?
China buys everything she can get her hands on, be them from the west or Russia, just to know what others have and what their technologies are. China now buys weapons mostly for study and research, not for real combat purpose.that's why China never buys in bulk, just a few of them.
 
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I agree, but they may still be behind on their Engine Development goals, and this may give credibility to the claim they want to buy the Su-57, if only to get the AL-41. The AL-41F was tested to a thrust of 176 kn (~39,500 lb)
http://www.leteckemotory.cz/motory/al-41/
Hmm, I'm not sure because just buying Su-57 won't give them the technology until and unless they get it with full ToT and I'm not sure if Russia is ready to do that but I think Chinese engine development programs are at quite advanced stage and some of their engines have already made their way into J10Cs so I'm sure China will need Russian tech.
 
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Hmm, I'm not sure because just buying Su-57 won't give them the technology until and unless they get it with full ToT and I'm not sure if Russia is ready to do that but I think Chinese engine development programs are at quite advanced stage and some of their engines have already made their way into J10Cs so I'm sure China will need Russian tech.

While ToT could be negotiated for, but even without it the Chinese engineering departments have top notch experts that could reverse engineer any bit of technology that may enhance their own domestic program.
 
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If nothing else, China may buy say 24 or so for comparisons sake to J-20.

Sort of like they did with the 24 Su-35 a few years ago.
 
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Discussion of a possible sale via news from a Thai Youtube video on a Chinese Forum.
Any merit to this claim? (If so, it would allow the Chinese access to the Full AL-41 Technology, and other Russian technologies.) Any indication the Russians have any technology besides Engines, the Chinese want/need?
http://zzwave.com/plaboard/posts/3958945.shtml
They can make something out of SU-35 engines as well. I have read that they are better than MKI engines
 
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https://thediplomat.com/2019/04/russia-to-offer-china-su-57-fifth-generation-stealth-fighter/

Russia to Offer China Su-57 Fifth-Generation Stealth Fighter
Russia is reportedly considering selling China an export version of the Su-57 fighter jet.
By Franz-Stefan Gady
April 02, 2019

The export variant of the Su-57, designated Su-57E, will reportedly receive export approval by Russian President Vladimir Putin in a few weeks, a senior Russian defense industry official said during a media briefing at the Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace Exhibition in Malaysia, according to an IHS Jane’s Defense Weekly report.

“China has recently taken delivery of 24 Su-35 aircraft, and in the next two years [China] will make a decision to either procure additional Su-35s, build the Su-35 in China, or buy a fifth-generation fighter aircraft, which could be another opportunity for the Su-57E,” the Russian defense industry official was quoted as saying.

The Su-57E could be officially unveiled at the Dubai Air Show in November 2019.

The Russian Ministry of Defense announced in 2018 that it will not mass-produce the Su-57. A major reason for this decision was the unsustainable costs of the program, amplified by India’s decision to abandon co-development of the aircraft, and a host technical problems still plaguing Russia’s first alleged stealth fighter as I pointed out previously:

At the moment, there are 10 Su-57 prototypes undergoing various stages of testing and evaluation. However, nine out of the 10 the Su-57 prototypes are equipped with a derivative of the Russian-made Saturn AL-41F1S engine, the AL-41F1, an older aircraft engine also installed on the Sukhoi Su-35S Flanker-E, and not with the more advanced Saturn izdeliye 30 engine featuring increased thrust and fuel efficiency and fitted with 3D thrust vectoring nozzles. The Saturn izdeliye 30 engine, which enables the Su-57 to supercruise without afterburners, is not expected to be ready for serial production for a number of years.

Consequently, it is likely that the new aircraft will fly with the AL-41F1, which would call into question the stealth capabilities of the aircraft. The aircraft’s sensor suite and other mission systems also reportedly continue to suffer from developmental issues. Furthermore, the Su-57 lacks other high-end low-observable design features. All of this calls into question Russian claims that the Su-57 is a fifth-generation stealth fighter jet in its current configuration.

Similarly, the PLAAF’s purported first fifth-generation stealth fighter aircraft, the Chengdu Aerospace Corporation (CAC) J-20A multirole fighter has also been affected by development issues and reportedly suffered various technical problems in past years. For one thing, like the Su-57, the J-20A lacks an indigenously developed and designed next-generation high performance turbofan jet engine and continues to rely on older Russian-made models.
 
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China buys everything she can get her hands on, be them from the west or Russia, just to know what others have and what their technologies are. China now buys weapons mostly for study and research, not for real combat purpose.that's why China never buys in bulk, just a few of them.
What ut buys from west
 
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