China on India's entry in NSG

[Sky lord]

Dont be fools......do u really think they give a f*** to bend rules for india??

What was the NSG waiver then?

 

[Mrc]

you will see India will not just become member of NSG but will also become the UNSC member...and pls. dont you try to give your country unwanted importance

I am sure india has US panties in a twist.....

please give your country due importance.... the one which is taken as least of threat out of all nuclear power b US....

(due to your shining history in warfare for last 1000 years I guess)

 

[Taimoor Khan]

In summery:

"China’s official media said India’s NSG membership would “jeopardise” China’s national interests besides touching a ‘raw nerve’ in Pakistan


China on Monday said differences remain among members of the Nuclear Suppliers Group over the inclusion of new countries and the issue was not even on the agenda of the grouping's meeting in Seoul this week"


Welcome to bipolar world. China and Pakistan combining to torpedo American-Indian designs. People are underestimating what is actually on stake here. World is watching how in this new world order, with new alliances, American blessing can only take you so far. China needs to put America in its place and Pakistan need to do the same to India.

 

[Mufflerman]

Sooner or later China will fall in line. The more they resist the poorer it reflects on China. The world must understand that India has enough coal for power and enough uranium for weapons. NSG membership for India has to happen. And with that membership we will make a fool out of all the countries that created this stupid cartel as retaliation for smiling buddha

 

[Blue Marlin]

China spoils India's party, says NSG entry not on Seoul meeting's agenda

Last updated on: June 20, 2016 15:30 IST

China on Monday said differences remain among members of the Nuclear Suppliers Group over the inclusion of new countries and the issue was not even on the agenda of the grouping's meeting in Seoul this week, a day after External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj asserted that Beijing was not opposing India's entry.

"We have stressed that the NSG is still divided about non-NPT countries entry into the NSG and under the current circumstances we hope that NSG will make through discussions to make a decision based on consultation," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying told a media briefing.

Answering questions about Foreign Secretary S Jaishankar's visit to Beijing on June 16-17 and Swaraj's remarks, Hua said India's admission into NSG is not on the agenda of the Seoul meeting of the 48-member elite club to be held on June 24.

"As we understand the annual conference in Seoul this year also has no such topic. We understand that non-NPT countries are concerned about their entry into the NSG. But since NSG is still divided about the issue, so it is still not mature to talk about the entry issue in the annual conference in Seoul," she said.

"I want point out that the NSG agenda has never covered any issue concerning the non-NPT countries joining the NSG," Hua asserted.

Her remarks came even as Swaraj on Sunday said India was confident of getting NSG membership this year.

"China is not opposing membership of India in NSG, it is only talking of criteria and procedure. I am hopeful that we would be able to convince China as well to support our entry to the NSG," she told a press conference.

"I think that there is a consensus which is being made and I am sure that India will become the member of the NSG this year," she had said.

Hua said, "China maintains that NSG should have through discussion on the joining of the non-NPT countries in a way agreed by all parties, so as to make a decision based on agreement. This position is not directed against any country and applies to all non-NPT states," she said.

Asked for further clarification on whether the issue has not been listed for the meeting, Hua said, "non-NPT countries entry has never been a topic of the agenda of NSG meetings. So in Seoul meeting there is no such topic."

On Jaishankar's visit, Hua said Chinese foreign ministry officials met with him and discussed the bilateral relations and issues of common interest.


Foreign Minister Wang Yi also met with him, she said.

"During Indian foreign secretary's visit, he expressed India's hope about joining the NSG because India is in need of the large amount of nuclear energy to deal with climate change," Hua said

"China said we understand India's requirement for developing nuclear energy and also reaffirmed that the NPT as the cornerstone of the nuclear non-proliferation regime. We stressed that the NSG is still divided about the non-NPT countries into the NPT," she said.

Responding to another question on China's stand, Hua said, "As you just said during foreign secretary's visit India has expressed its hope of joining the NSG. We have also exchanged views with the Indian side about that."

"As per the NSG meeting, whether or not it is proper platform to discuss the entry issue... as I just said the international community has different opinions concerning the non-NPT countries joining the NSG.

"Therefore we maintain that we should have a thorough discussion so as to make a decision based on consultation so the NSG should first discuss the entry issue of non-NPT states as a whole instead of any specific non-NPT countries joining," Hua said.

India's case for NSG membership is being strongly pushed by the US, which has written to other members to support India's bid at the plenary meeting of the group in Seoul.

While majority of the elite group backed India's membership, it is understood that apart from China, countries like Turkey, South Africa, Ireland and New Zealand were not in favour of India's entry into the NSG.

China maintains opposition to India's entry, arguing that it has not signed Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. China wants NSG membership for its close ally Pakistan if NSG extends any exemption for India.

India has asserted that being a signatory to the NPT was not essential for joining the NSG as there has been a precedent in this regard, citing the case of France.

The NSG looks after critical issues relating to nuclear sector and its members are allowed to trade in and export nuclear technology. Membership of the grouping will help India significantly expand its atomic energy sector.

India has been reaching out to NSG member countries seeking support for its entry. The NSG works under the principle of consensus and even one country's vote against India will scuttle its bid.

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/c...try-not-on-seoul-meetings-agenda/20160620.htm

ouch that gotta hurt

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Chinese are resorting to the their old tactics of stalling rather than opposing.

 

[Tripoli]

Its not just China but also countries such as Turkey.
In the end India is screwed.

Let see Chinese are dumb enough to solely oppose us in NSG .

Chinese are resorting to the their old tactics of stalling rather than opposing.

Exactly.

What will be curious is to see how india reacts.

Sooner or later China will fall in line. The more they resist the poorer it reflects on China. The world must understand that India has enough coal for power and enough uranium for weapons. NSG membership for India has to happen. And with that membership we will make a fool out of all the countries that created this stupid cartel as retaliation for smiling buddha

 

[SrNair]

Its not just China but also countries such as Turkey.
In the end India is screwed.

On what basis ?
Why should the Turkey oppose India in NSG ?
So far we have a good relation with Turkey .
Why should they irritate their relation with India for some other friendly nation ?
A nation that gives priority to their own interest wouldnt involve in dumb diplomatic moves .
It is quite easy to create an enemy .
For India ,NSG is just a formality .
They can block us now .But in return they will invite unpleasent cooperation from India .Considering India's global clout it will bite back dearly in long term.

Turkey agrees about our case in MTCR .In here they will support both Pakistan and India.

Chinese current dramas also raise hints their change in NSG.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Its not just China but also countries such as Turkey.
In the end India is screwed.

India is indeed screwed my friend and always has been.

India did not obtain the Indo-US nuke deal.

India did not obtain the NSG waiver.

India's NSG Waiver does not include:
1. Supply of Uranium from from NSG members.
2. Access to nuclear dual use technologies from NSG members.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/sep/proposal.pdf

Uranium supplier nations are against transferring Uranium to India

http://in.reuters.com/article/india-australia-nuclear-deal-idINKBN0H00MX20140905

The Indian NSG waiver does not threaten the national security of both Pakistan and China as it allows India to more easily increase it nuclear weapons stockpile.

The Chinese were not arm-twisted by Americans into accepting India's NSG wavier and in process compromising on their own and Pakistani national security.

NSG membership of India is not a an insurance policy against India's NSG waiver.

It certainly does not have anything to do with Chinese bruised ego of being forced by Americans to accept India's NSG waiver.

Finally, India will not be a NSG member, Pakistan will

 

[Tripoli]

On what basis ?
Why should the Turkey oppose India in NSG ?
So far we have a good relation with Turkey .
Why should they irritate their relation with India for some other friendly nation ?
A nation that gives priority to their own interest wouldnt involve in dumb diplomatic moves .
It is quite easy to create an enemy .
For India ,NSG is just a formality .
They can block us now .But in return they will invite unpleasent cooperation from India .Considering India's global clout it will bite back dearly in long term.

Turkey agrees about our case in MTCR .In here they will support both Pakistan and India.

Chinese current dramas also raise hints their change in NSG.

Erdogon's Turkey is very, very different. Turkey has (Kiwis soft on India's NSG bid, Turkey backs Pak - Times of India)
and will support Pakistan in the future.
Turkey will have the excuse that India is not an NPT member and if India gets the membership then so should Pakistan.

 

[Mufflerman]

On what basis ?
Why should the Turkey oppose India in NSG ?
So far we have a good relation with Turkey .
Why should they irritate their relation with India for some other friendly nation ?
A nation that gives priority to their own interest wouldnt involve in dumb diplomatic moves .
It is quite easy to create an enemy .
For India ,NSG is just a formality .
They can block us now .But in return they will invite unpleasent cooperation from India .Considering India's global clout it will bite back dearly in long term.

Turkey agrees about our case in MTCR .In here they will support both Pakistan and India.

Chinese current dramas also raise hints their change in NSG.

It ain't Turkey. It's the modern Caliph, erdogan.

 

[danger007]

What a show!
Modi can fly here to beg, doesn't he love traveling outside India?

Well the show not yet over,lets see what will happen.. Modi Don't need to beg, if you know the word diplomacy....

Japan become permanent member of Malabar exercise... kudos..

 

[Dash]

Somebody in Pakistan got paranoid after Sushma Swaraj's conference and called Beijing.

Pakistan- we didn't allow other bidding in CPEC project and are ready to buy your electricity @ 18 rupees for the sake of this?

China- OK hold on..

Rest is what followed...

 

[SrNair]

Erdogon's Turkey is very, very different. Turkey has (Kiwis soft on India's NSG bid, Turkey backs Pak - Times of India)
and will support Pakistan in the future.
Turkey will have the excuse that India is not an NPT member and if India gets the membership then so should Pakistan.

Same Turkey supported us in MTCR .why ?
Turkey may different ,Erdogan may very different .But we dont care .
All we cares about our own interest.
Erdogan may be different but he is not Gen Zia and nor Turkey is Pakistan .Or I would say they dont need to create enemy in India .At any case that wont serve their interest .

 

[danger007]

Dont be fools.....
Only importance india has is that its being used to tease china and pakistan
..
Otherwise US cannot care less for your rising shupa powa....do u really think they give a f*** to bend rules for india??

Am sorry.... I don't know why you guys place pak next to china or group with China.. i thought both are different countries...