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Is India beating China in its own game — building a low-price, efficient and increasingly reliable model in the space sector?

The Chinese government is possibly asking its space scientists this question.

Days after saying China was way ahead of India in space technology, a grudgingly complimentary state media piece on Monday said the Communist country could learn a “number of lessons” from its neighbour’s low-price and efficiency-driven advantages in the sector.

Last week, India launched 104 satellites, breaking the earlier Russian record of 37 satellites being placed in orbit at one go.

Well done India, but we are ahead in the space race, was the crux of the nationalistic tabloid Global Times’s opinion piece that was published as a response to the launch.

“Competition with India for commercial space launches may be inevitable, and the most urgent action needed for China to expand its market share is to reduce the cost of putting satellites into orbit.”
On Monday, the same newspaper asked a seemingly rhetorical question: “Over the past few days, some people have keenly followed the debate on whether China has lagged behind India in its space race.”

“India’s successful launch of a record-breaking 104 satellites into orbit could serve as a wake-up call for China’s commercial space industry and there are a number of lessons for the country to learn,” the article published in the section “Eye on the Economy” said.

The Chinese commercial space sector has lagged behind the global market and now the country has to learn from the experiences acquired by other countries, India included, on how to commercialise rocket launches.


The focus of the article was on the commercial aspects of India’s space forays.

“Competition with India for commercial space launches may be inevitable, and the most urgent action needed for China to expand its market share is to reduce the cost of putting satellites into orbit,” it said.

“China’s space sector, developing rapidly as an important part of the country’s defence industry, has focused less on cost-control in the past few decades. The country should make a fundamental transformation to allow some institutions in its space sector to run like a business instead of as government-backed research bodies,” the article said.

Restrictions on exporting technology from US

It said part of the reason why China’s space sector is not as commercially viable is because of US restrictions on exporting required technology to the US.

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People watch as a rocket from ISRO takes off successfully to launch a record 104 satellites. (PTI Photo)
“Although China is developing rapidly into a major player in the space industry, the country’s commercial space sector is still in its infancy. Many of the world’s satellites are made in or use parts from the US. However, satellites and components made in the US are prohibited from being exported to China, making it very difficult for China to get contracts for commercial satellite launches with other countries,” it said.

But China is likely to put the wherewithal in place quickly.

ChinaRocket Co was established last year to ramp up the commercialization of China’s space sector. The firm has pledged a reduction in the cost of rocket launches by at least 30% through various measures including business model innovation.”

The cost-efficiency race in space is likely to pick up pace soon.


http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...state-media/story-hUXI9C9ReS0KmTMOnwZYEM.html
 
China has lagged so much behind India that now they can not catch up. Simple reasons being,

1) India has developed a capabilty to launch satellite in multiple orbit which china can not do.
2) India has proven that it can virtually launch any numbers of satellies subject to the weight carrying limit of vehicle.
3) India is working on reusable rocket technology and it is not known whether china is wroking on it or not.
4) India is all set to use reusable space shuttle and planning to operationalize it in next few years. Do not knnow any such plan of china.
5) India has successfully tested Scremject technology demonstrator which will reduce the weight of vehicle and improve the thrust a lot. This will make vehicle very small, light weight and will carry a lot more weight in space at a very low cost.
6) India has an objective to reduce launch cost to just 10% of current cost which china will not match in any foreseeable future.
7) Currently India has a rocket of modest capability but India is all set to rise it to 4.5 tons in few day and above 6 ton in couple years to come. It is good for all practical purposes.
8) Mmdhvan nair (Ex ISRO) chief said that ISRO can launch 300 or 400 satellite in one go also which no other country can ever dream of.

Had my article been read by chinese trolls instead of bragging, they would have got all these answers but they choose to troll as usual.
 
Both China and India needs to learn from space x corporation
 
Is India beating China in its own game — building a low-price, efficient and increasingly reliable model in the space sector?

The Chinese government is possibly asking its space scientists this question.

Days after saying China was way ahead of India in space technology, a grudgingly complimentary state media piece on Monday said the Communist country could learn a “number of lessons” from its neighbour’s low-price and efficiency-driven advantages in the sector.

Last week, India launched 104 satellites, breaking the earlier Russian record of 37 satellites being placed in orbit at one go.

Well done India, but we are ahead in the space race, was the crux of the nationalistic tabloid Global Times’s opinion piece that was published as a response to the launch.

“Competition with India for commercial space launches may be inevitable, and the most urgent action needed for China to expand its market share is to reduce the cost of putting satellites into orbit.”
On Monday, the same newspaper asked a seemingly rhetorical question: “Over the past few days, some people have keenly followed the debate on whether China has lagged behind India in its space race.”

“India’s successful launch of a record-breaking 104 satellites into orbit could serve as a wake-up call for China’s commercial space industry and there are a number of lessons for the country to learn,” the article published in the section “Eye on the Economy” said.

The Chinese commercial space sector has lagged behind the global market and now the country has to learn from the experiences acquired by other countries, India included, on how to commercialise rocket launches.


The focus of the article was on the commercial aspects of India’s space forays.

“Competition with India for commercial space launches may be inevitable, and the most urgent action needed for China to expand its market share is to reduce the cost of putting satellites into orbit,” it said.

“China’s space sector, developing rapidly as an important part of the country’s defence industry, has focused less on cost-control in the past few decades. The country should make a fundamental transformation to allow some institutions in its space sector to run like a business instead of as government-backed research bodies,” the article said.

Restrictions on exporting technology from US

It said part of the reason why China’s space sector is not as commercially viable is because of US restrictions on exporting required technology to the US.

isro-launch-104-satellites-c37-board-pslv_e988fe8a-f738-11e6-ab12-d7625b180dd1.jpg

People watch as a rocket from ISRO takes off successfully to launch a record 104 satellites. (PTI Photo)
Although China is developing rapidly into a major player in the space industry, the country’s commercial space sector is still in its infancy. Many of the world’s satellites are made in or use parts from the US. However, satellites and components made in the US are prohibited from being exported to China, making it very difficult for China to get contracts for commercial satellite launches with other countries,” it said.

But China is likely to put the wherewithal in place quickly.

ChinaRocket Co was established last year to ramp up the commercialization of China’s space sector. The firm has pledged a reduction in the cost of rocket launches by at least 30% through various measures including business model innovation.”

The cost-efficiency race in space is likely to pick up pace soon.


http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...state-media/story-hUXI9C9ReS0KmTMOnwZYEM.html

After making tall clims, chinese media has exposed china that it is dependendant on US parts for his space program and it is hurt with US sanction.

US put sanction on India also but they could not do anything. Indian space program emerged being ever stronger than before and we made Cryogenic engine of very high efficiency. This is a difference between a country with real talent and real indigeneous program. When Agni 5 was laucnhed, Saraswat said that it was a final defeat of Missile technology control regime. We launchd wrold's most accurete missile inspite of sanction.
I know many people will find it very very difficult to digest this fact but the fact can not be changed.
 
Rather both can learn from each other in space sector.
Both have got more to gain from co-operation rather than competing.
 
Both China and India needs to learn from space x corporation
India has a very diverse program and great manpower pool. They hardly need to learn anything from any country. Particllarly not from china. Ofcourse, US and Russia can certainly teach india couple of things.
 
India has a very diverse program and great manpower pool. They hardly need to learn anything from any country. Particllarly not from china. Ofcourse, US and Russia can certainly teach india couple of things.
What I said and what you are talking?
 
After making tall clims, chinese media has exposed china that it is dependendant on US parts for his space program and it is hurt with US sanction.

US put sanction on India also but they could not do anything. Indian space program emerged being ever stronger than before and we made Cryogenic engine of very high efficiency. This is a difference between a country with real talent and real indigeneous program. When Agni 5 was laucnhed, Saraswat said that it was a final defeat of Missile technology control regime. We launchd wrold's most accurete missile inspite of sanction.
I know many people will find it very very difficult to digest this fact but the fact can not be changed.
To be honest, China is lagging behind in space commercial sector simply because of U.S sanctions . U.S has Anne's any company from cooperating,marketing or selling any space related technology/equipment/parts to China or face sanctions. We all know the U.S has a major presence and control in virtually every major core technology out there or at least they are involved to some extent,so any sanctions by the U.S I bound to affect any country (especially in relations with cooperating with others.
So I believe if the U.S had placed sanctions against any space related tech/equipment or parts from being exported/supplied or produced with India's space sector then India will never have all these satellites being launched on it soil. Every foriegn country will have avoided sending their satellite to be launched in India for far of U.S far reaching sanctions (since vast majority of countries satellites use U.S equipment/parts or tech to some extent . Therein lies the dilemna.
 

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