China mulling 1,000 MT of fuel supply to Nepal

[Kyle Sun]

Nepalese themselves are Hindus (and Nepal is friendly to China), it's important to differentiate between them and Indians.

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[TaiShang]

‪#‎BreakingNews‬ China to donate 1.3 million liters of fuel to Nepal

China will supply Nepal with 1.3 million liters of fuel to ease crippling shortages after protests over a new constitution blocked imports from India, said Nepali official Sunday.

"China has agreed to send us 1,000 metric tonnes, or 1.3 million liters of petrol, as a grant," said Sushil Bhattarai, acting deputy managing director at the state-run Nepal Oil Corporation.

The fuel will be transported via a land crossing which was repaired and reopened this month after suffering damage in the earthquake that hit Nepal in April this year.

China has never officially traded oil or gas with Nepal, the 1.3 million fuel will be a donation. Nepal has accused India of being behind the ongoing blockade at the bridge checkpoint in Birgunj, 90 kilometers (55 miles) south of the capital, in protest at Kathmandu's handling of a new charter.




People‘s Daily

 

[Dungeness]

There is a particular Nepalese member very well versed with the situation- and a neutral,rational one to boot.
@Viva

Last heard the unofficial blockade was lifted the day Nepalese authorities began approaching their Chinese counterparts for co-operation.The Indian truck drivers who had frozen with fear over violence in Nepal suddenly becoming brave enough to risk it as soon as China came in the picture.

It is a quite endeavor to ship what Nepal needs from China side, as all goods need to be transported from Inland China over Tibetan Plateau, and become quite costly. I do hope China can eventually establish a rail link with Nepal. India should not be chickenhearted as a superpower wanna be.

 

[Abotani]

It is a quite endeavor to ship what Nepal needs from China side, as all goods need to be transported from Inland China over Tibetan Plateau, and become quite costly. I do hope China can eventually establish a rail link with Nepal. India should not be chickenhearted as a superpower wanna be.

It will take years before it becomes economically viable for both China and Nepal.Nepal will have to show some commitment for China to take the risk of becoming a supplier.
However,it could be very beneficial for both, particularly China which can squeeze the TGIE even further.The chicken's neck get's ever more real-leading Bhutan to reconsider it's calculus about India and China...etc,etc.

 

[Dungeness]

It will take years before it becomes economically viable for both China and Nepal.Nepal will have to show some commitment for China to take the risk of becoming a supplier.
However,it could be very beneficial for both, particularly China which can squeeze the TGIE even further.The chicken's neck get's ever more real-leading Bhutan to reconsider it's calculus about India and China...etc,etc.

It is true, the chick neck seems to be a natural boundary. Lots of die-hard military fans in China today are still puzzling why PLA did not cut it off in 1962, as India had lost guts to fight and Nehru farewelled to Assam already. What-if.....at least, you guys in that part of world would not be called "chinki“.

 

[Abotani]

It is true, the chick neck seems to be a natural boundary. Lots of die-hard military fans in China today are still puzzling why PLA did not cut it off in 1962, as India had lost guts to fight and Nehru farewelled to Assam already. What-if.....at least, you guys in that part of world would not be called "chinki“.

Re-supply issues mostly.PLA troops could have easily cut off the chicken's neck at Assam if it wasn't the issues of diificulty in keeping troops supplied in theaters where Indians had been driven out from.Back in 62,the supply line for China was mind blowingly long-from China proper to the plateau of tibet and then to the himalayas in ST while the Brits had already built the required infra for Indians upto Assam and Indian supply line was shorter and easier.I have heard PLA even had to take the participation of locals in the region to act as porters for supplies.It was a hard task and it is surprising PLA managed to muster enough troops and supplies to carry out the punitive action,given how incredible the challenge was.

It is certainly interesting to think about,not on ST and NE,but more so on how regional/global history could have been influenced if PRC could have managed to hold on.
Would 1971 war have been an Indian victory without NE region to surround then East Pakistan?Without tibetan origin troops used by Indians to carry out offensive actions against pakistani forces?
Would Sikkim have been able to survive?Would Bhutan be pro China instead of the pro India slant it has now?
.....these things just pop out.

 

[Dungeness]

It will take years before it becomes economically viable for both China and Nepal.Nepal will have to show some commitment for China to take the risk of becoming a supplier.
However,it could be very beneficial for both, particularly China which can squeeze the TGIE even further.The chicken's neck get's ever more real-leading Bhutan to reconsider it's calculus about India and China...etc,etc.

Good thing about their current political system is, China can afford to make 20, 50 year very long term plan. One day, China may have more influence in that part of world.

 

[Abotani]

Good thing about their current political system is, China can afford to make 20, 50 year very long term plan. One day, China may have more influence in that part of world.

Long term planning and patience?I think few nations on earth have it to the extent that China has.China is already making inroads tbh.
Bhutan has been reconsidering it's balancing act for years now to adopt a more China friendly policy for it's benefit.India has just scored a self-goal in Nepal.
Myanmar is a bit of a worry as it seeks to move out of PRC's sphere of influence,it can't just trying to balance it.

 

[Dungeness]

Re-supply issues mostly.PLA troops could have easily cut off the chicken's neck at Assam if it wasn't the issues of diificulty in keeping troops supplied in theaters where Indians had been driven out from.Back in 62,the supply line for China was mind blowingly long-from China proper to the plateau of tibet and then to the himalayas in ST while the Brits had already built the required infra for Indians upto Assam and Indian supply line was shorter and easier.I have heard PLA even had to take the participation of locals in the region to act as porters for supplies.It was a hard task and it is surprising PLA managed to muster enough troops and supplies to carry out the punitive action,given how incredible the challenge was.

It is certainly interesting to think about,not on ST and NE,but more so on how regional/global history could have been influenced if PRC could have managed to hold on.
Would 1971 war have been an Indian victory without NE region to surround then East Pakistan?Without tibetan origin troops used by Indians to carry out offensive actions against pakistani forces?
Would Sikkim have been able to survive?Would Bhutan be pro China instead of the pro India slant it has now?
.....these things just pop out.

Well, I have been think about this issue for quite some time. While the supply line was definitely an issue, it has more to do with Mao's personal ego to be the leader of the 3rd world. In the WWII, Chinese KMT army reached Assam through Myanmar jungle, and in the later stage of the war, the ground supply line from Assam to China was established. So the logistic issue could have been resolved. Besides, from Sichuan/Yunnan region to east part of ST, dose not really have to bother Tibetan Plateau. Though difficult, nevertheless it is not impossible.

Mao's moral high ground and personal ego might have cost China a historical opportunity.

 

[Huan]

It is a quite endeavor to ship what Nepal needs from China side, as all goods need to be transported from Inland China over Tibetan Plateau, and become quite costly. I do hope China can eventually establish a rail link with Nepal. India should not be chickenhearted as a superpower wanna be.

Should drill a super tunnel through the Tibetan Plateau to Nepal.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

The problem of Nepal is that she took in too much Indians migrants who now clamour for a state, and next independent (best case) and even annexation of Nepal by India.

This kind of dirty trick was perform numerous time by Nazi Hindutva.

Sikkim got conquered by India because she took in too much Indian migrants.

 

[Abotani]

Well, I have been think about this issue for quite some time. While the supply line was definitely an issue, it has more to do with Mao's personal ego to be the leader of the 3rd world. In the WWII, Chinese KMT army reached Assam through Myanmar jungle, and in the later stage of the war, the ground supply line from Assam to China was established. So the logistic issue could have been resolved. Besides, from Sichuan/Yunnan region to east part of ST, dose not really have to bother Tibetan Plateau. Though difficult, nevertheless it is not impossible.

Mao's moral high ground and personal ego might have cost China a historical opportunity.

Mao's issues I have never studied in detail as it is not readily available to me.
While it is true that cutting off tibet proper from the supply line was shorter,it is hard to say that, considering we may never fully know what were the considerations and limitations facing Chinese war planners back then.

The Ledo stilwell road was rather basic and most of the resupply to Chinese resistance against japanese aggression was kept up by a steady stream of transport/bombers from the airfields of Assam and ST by US and Britain. Land routes were riskier and less efficient even back then when the allies committed to resupply China against Japan.
In fact crashes of WW2 era planes and the remains of american servicemen are scattered all throughout ST.

 

[Dungeness]

The problem of Nepal is that she took in too much Indians migrants who now clamour for a state, and next independent (best case) and even annexation of Nepal by India.

This kind of dirty trick was perform numerous time by Nazi Hindutva.

Sikkim got conquered by India because she took in too much Indian migrants.

It is indeed a problem. I think @Abotani called it demographic engineering. India is doing the same thing in NE as well.