China may export J-10B fighters with Russian AL31FN-S3 engines to Pakistan

[Jf Thunder]

yep but your one Part is lost Kool ......you will be still their even you again divided into 2 again. Nuke dont cannt help much . from 2016 India deploying ABM's

brag when you actually do something to us

 

[abdulbarijan]

Is j10b deal still on ? Or just hoax ?



Is j10b deal still on ?????????

I'm not an insider .. so don't hold my word in high regard ... What I tell are my opinions based on the rumors around ... but to give you an answer ... the current deal which seems to be in the works is the SU-35 deal ... In the event that the deal doesn't go through ... we can go for the J-10B in that event ...

 

[Beta-Fighter]

An amazing post indeed sir ...

-Your absolutely right ... we wasted 5 years over J-10 which was meant to be the reaction for MMRCA ... You know the deal you were yapping about since the last 8-10years which is effectively dead and a new deal for a third of the original numbers is in the works ... which too is going down the drain .... Lets not forget at one point AL-31 was not available to us and WS-10 was not considered as reliable ... well today we can get the J-10 with AL-31 and turns out WS-10 has overcome the reliability issues it was facing ... 5 years wasted right ....

Wasted means , their is not such deal at all people is flying with their imagination. Today also you dont have any plan for J-10 with Al-31 , because Russian are giving more engine for you / spare parts.

-Good for you, you've gained soo much of an advantage ... lets make a list shall we ...

-Increased SU-30 MKI's (known for being a maintenance headache with low availability, but to be fair a good fighter jet)

IAF working on the availability part already.

-MMRCA (original plan 126, original deal effectively dead ... with the Indian side negotiating for the 1/3rd of the original MMRCA deal and that too is going through problems)

Well its no Point of Inducting 2 different type of plane in same time.
India plan changes as per time and need

by 2018-19 when MMRCA is completed , then Russian 5th gen started inducting or making and SU30- to Super Su-30 will start.

Therefore no use of having large number of planes. when you are going to have 5th gen why invest more then 4.5 gen MMRCA.

-LCA Tejas ( the jet that supposedly can do anything the F-16 can .. except ofcourse replace a jet from the late 50's in the Mig-21 .. to the point where Hal was like .. we can give you another version in the MK1A of Tejas .. in 2018 if you want and IAF still waiting on MKII, supposedly post 2020 which is if everything goes according to plan as we have witnessed that it almost does every time ... )

I cannot even explain you the AC technology. The IAF reluctance is due to ego issues nothing else. Indian Aero space technology is maturing now.

In 2018 , IAF SU-30MKI will be started upgraded to Super SU-30MKI.

-PAK-FA ( the jet that IAF originally planned to induct in numbers revolving around 200, then reports came out of a reduction citing a number near 120+ and then today the number has gone down to 65 so less then a third as compared to the original plan)

-Let's not even discuss the wet dreams of AMCA and company ...

So please continue with your amazing performance ... the folks on our side wish you continue with the amazing work ..

Did you know why number came down? India want to build its own PAK-FA ver. , but since it take more then 3-4 years to develop that version, India will buy only 65 numbers of those version which is used by Russian AF.

India build and modify plane as per its needs . India want Twin Seat PAK-FA like SU-30MKI. Indian SU-30MKI was Twin Seat while at that time Russian SU-30 is single Seat. Twin seat was developed for India only.


incomplete knowledge is always dangerous.

brag when you actually do something to us

didnt we done in 71?

 

[xyxmt]

5 years you wasted in dreaming for J10 and now another 5 years for dreaming Su-35?

how long Rafael deal has been going on, 15 years?
for last 15 years I hear a news once a week where India is going to sign a defense deal worth 25000 caror, India is making TEJAS, TEJAS cancelled, now Stealth, now it will be ultra sonic, Arjun will fly if needed.

 

[Jf Thunder]

didnt we done in 71?

its 45 year old, do something new

 

[Beta-Fighter]

its 45 year old, do something new

Removed you from kargil and destroyed your dreams of taking Siachin ..... 15 years back..... how much humiliation u more want.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

PAF is not going for J10b ........ Chill........
Who needs J10b when Su35S is coming ....

Stop commenting like an immature prick when you are not 100% sure that Su35s are really coming.

 

[Beta-Fighter]

how long Rafael deal has been going on, 15 years?
for last 15 years I hear a news once a week where India is going to sign a defense deal worth 25000 caror, India is making TEJAS, TEJAS cancelled, now Stealth, now it will be ultra sonic, Arjun will fly if needed.

Nope , these are real deal while your Chinese JXX was imaginations of PDF nothing else.
India has 224+ Su 30 MKI , 50 Mirages and 66 Mig-29 = 340 upgraded planes. India is in no need of panic state unlike PAK.

India changes plan and modify plane as per time and need. and things changes plane changes and need changes. tejas is inducting as per plan with AESA Radar.


oh did i forget to mentioned , 137 Jag and 85 MIG 27 - 200 More dual engine planes.... Opps ....

500 + planes .... this is more then entire PAF planes.....

 

[abdulbarijan]

Wasted means , their is not such deal at all people is flying with their imagination. Today also you dont have any plan for J-10 with Al-31 , because Russian are giving more engine for you / spare parts.


IAF working on the availability part already.



Well its no Point of Inducting 2 different type of plane in same time.
India plan changes as per time and need

by 2018-19 when MMRCA is completed , then Russian 5th gen started inducting or making and SU30- to Super Su-30 will start.

Therefore no use of having large number of planes. when you are going to have 5th gen why invest more then 4.5 gen MMRCA.


I cannot even explain you the AC technology. The IAF reluctance is due to ego issues nothing else. Indian Aero space technology is maturing now.

In 2018 , IAF SU-30MKI will be started upgraded to Super SU-30MKI.



Did you know why number came down? India want to build its own PAK-FA ver. , but since it take more then 3-4 years to develop that version, India will buy only 65 numbers of those version which is used by Russian AF.

India build and modify plane as per its needs . India want Twin Seat PAK-FA like SU-30MKI. Indian SU-30MKI was Twin Seat while at that time Russian SU-30 is single Seat. Twin seat was developed for India only.


incomplete knowledge is always dangerous.


didnt we done in 71?

-Who told you there is no deal for the J-10B ... the option is actually still available ...

-IAF was working on that crash record too ... IAF still sits at the top in that one .. but then again .. its "still working" aint it ..

-Except plans were already out for SU-30 MKI upgrade, PAK-FA and MMRCA ... but all of a sudden IAF remembered like "you know whattttt ... thiiiis doooesss nottt makee sensee" ... ofcourse in the process you pi$$ed the french enough for them to start rumors of a possible revival of the original JFT deal .. and Russia's DFM to go ahead and talk about a possible deal of SU-35 ..

-Then your point is "you cannot explain AC technology to me" -- the issues are "ego based" which is the reason IAF is not replacing its fleet of air frames that were originally designed/conceived in the 50's with a jet that can do anything the -16's can .. good luck is all I can say to you on this..

-IAF super Sukhoi upgrade ... good for you ... except then again look at the track record of the deals IAF is doing .. MMRCA, PAK-FA etc. Whats to say that the upgrade won't be delayed by the Russians this time, whom you guys screwed out of the MMRCA and totally shocked by reducing a deal to 3 times its original size in PAK-FA ... do you still believe you dictate the terms simply because you have money ... your dependent on them, not the other way around when it comes to Super sukhois ...

-Oh yes after saying that okay, we'll be buying 200 , your going to reduce it to 65 on the premise of we want dual seaters .. you do remember that the original deal in 2010 of 200 included 60 something fgfa's( dual seaters) while the rest were the single seater PAK-Fa's (single seaters) ...so your absolutely right ... incomplete knowledge is dangerous ... thank you for volunteering to prove that once again ...

 

[xyxmt]

Nope , these are real deal while your Chinese JXX was imaginations of PDF nothing else.
India has 224+ Su 30 MKI , 50 Mirages and 66 Mig-29 = 340 upgraded planes. India is in no need of panic state unlike PAK.

India changes plan and modify plane as per time and need. and things changes plane changes and need changes. tejas is inducting as per plan with AESA Radar.


oh did i forget to mentioned , 137 Jag and 85 MIG 27 - 200 More dual engine planes.... Opps ....

500 + planes .... this is more then entire PAF planes.....

so much technical advantage, when is IAF coming for precision strikes then?
that talk is going on for 15 years too, like Rafael and 25000 carors

 

[abdulbarijan]

Nope , these are real deal while your Chinese JXX was imaginations of PDF nothing else.
India has 224+ Su 30 MKI , 50 Mirages and 66 Mig-29 = 340 upgraded planes. India is in no need of panic state unlike PAK.

India changes plan and modify plane as per time and need. and things changes plane changes and need changes. tejas is inducting as per plan with AESA Radar.


oh did i forget to mentioned , 137 Jag and 85 MIG 27 - 200 More dual engine planes.... Opps ....

500 + planes .... this is more then entire PAF planes.....

Except IAF also has to watch for PLAAF ... remember the MMRCA .. the claims of "ohh we're going to counter China with 126 aircrafts --- IAF Jindabaad "

Do you even know that the number of 4/4+ generation fighters alone that the PLAAF operates is nearly the size of the entire IAF .. and then you have to worry about that little airforce that whooped you even when you had 3:1 numerical advantage, plus technological advantage at your side... to the point where your politicians were talking about Surgical strikes ... yet your IAF got scared from those "chinese copies" that you love to belittle ... so carry on ... "explaining AC technology to us" .... its frankly getting quite entertaining ...

 

[Jf Thunder]

Removed you from kargil and destroyed your dreams of taking Siachin ..... 15 years back..... how much humiliation u more want.

well lets see, Kargil is the same as before, and you just occupied a barren unoccupied wasteland, bravo
meanwhile 68 years before, we broke India to make the Islamic Republic of Pakistan

 

[Beta-Fighter]

well lets see, Kargil is the same as before, and you just occupied a barren unoccupied wasteland, bravo
meanwhile 68 years before, we broke India to make the Islamic Republic of Pakistan

well In kargil you came with a dream and we broke that dream.

You did not broke , we given you land and now see where you stand and where we stand in ranking.

Yes we given you land , because we wanted to developed, look us and then you , where you stand economically and technology, if you was with us , then we are left behind like u. Thankyou we separated you.

so much technical advantage, when is IAF coming for precision strikes then?
that talk is going on for 15 years too, like Rafael and 25000 carors

IAF all current inventory has precision strikes systems. Seen precision strike in kargil ??

yes , talk are going on from last April 2011 India shortlisted the plane. in 2015 we are signing.

 

[Jf Thunder]

well In kargil you came with a dream and we broke that dream.

Yes we given you land , because we wanted to developed, look us and then you , where you stand economically and technology, if you was with us , then we are left behind like u. Thankyou we separated you.

you gave us nothing, we took it, with our own sweat and blood, dont say it like it was your favor.
well in 1965 you also came with a dream, and ran back crying, so we are even.
i dont see a difference between us, we have arms, we are developed, and most of all we have toilets

 

[Beta-Fighter]

Except IAF also has to watch for PLAAF ... remember the MMRCA .. the claims of "ohh we're going to counter China with 126 aircrafts --- IAF Jindabaad "

Do you even know that the number of 4/4+ generation fighters alone that the PLAAF operates is nearly the size of the entire IAF .. and then you have to worry about that little airforce that whooped you even when you had 3:1 numerical advantage, plus technological advantage at your side... to the point where your politicians were talking about Surgical strikes ... yet your IAF got scared from those "chinese copies" that you love to belittle ... so carry on ... "explaining AC technology to us" .... its frankly getting quite entertaining ...

Lol , if you dont know anything about Plane and its technology , so its better do not comment.

PLAAF planes if cross over Himalayas its only one way right , high Altitude decrease load and performance of plane. So IAF least worried about it as of now. ( IAF building now 2 front war capacity) . since you don't know anything about Airplane technology you better not talk.

Oh really ... China has around 600 Planes +120 Bombers Vs India has 340Planes + 220 bombers ( out of that 300 planes flies of China made engines which is reliability issues and High MTBF.

Mr Cheerleader , Do i tell you about Russian or US planes no against China? get your numbers correct ....

You need proper educations. you cant even know the numbers.....

you gave us nothing, we took it, with our own sweat and blood, dont say it like it was your favor.
well in 1965 you also came with a dream, and ran back crying, so we are even.
i dont see a difference between us, we have arms, we are developed, and most of all we have toilets

lol , you started 65 and ended up having nothing , you dream of having Kashmir flopped many times. I feel petty on your when you even dont know about your own country.

Most happening point when your new paper declare victory and you people distributing sweets at same time your gen signing surrender papers. This is the level of awareness u have .