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China May 2020: Tesla Model 3 Production And Sales Above 11,000 [BYD #2 at 7,395]

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https://cleantechnica.com/2020/06/19/tesla-model-3-undisputed-leader-in-china-ev-sales-report/
Tesla Model 3 Is Undisputed EV Leader In China — EV Sales Report

While the overall Chinese auto market returned to positive numbers in May (+7% year over year), plugins are still in the red and were down 32% last month, with close to 73,000 registrations.

This plugin vehicle (PEV) subpar performance is concerning, but because it might be connected to the incentives-related sales rush that happened around this same time last year — when incentives were cut towards the end of June — we will have to wait for July to see if growth returns by then, as expected, or if we are in for a lost year.

Still, it was the best month this year regarding volumes, and that showed in May’s PEV share, with 4.4% market share (3.3% fully electric vehicles) pulling the 2020 share up by a tenth of a percentage point, to 4.3% (3.3% BEV). That is still a step below the 5.5% PEV share of 2019, but hopefully the second half of the year will bring the possibility to reach last year’s score.



Looking at May’s best sellers, Tesla dominated the scene, almost tripling the deliveries of the #2 GAC Aion S. The surprise of the month came from Buick, with its Velite 6 station wagon winning May’s bronze medal.

Here’s more on the individual performances of May’s top 5 best selling models:


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#1 — Tesla Model 3
The poster child for electric mobility hit a record 11,468 registrations (including estimated imports) in May, and while a record performance is always something to cheer, frankly, I was expecting better (15,000 was my target). While trying to find a reason for this, and after checking the local available inventory and orders, something interesting happened.

While on one hand there was a several-thousand-long waiting list for the Long Range RWD version of the car, on the other there were a few thousand Model 3 Standard Range models sitting in stock, which provides a couple of interesting insights on Model 3 demand. The upper end of the range still has significant demand, while the lower end is suffering from increased competition/adverse times, with the “Tesla is supply constrained” mantra proving to be more nuanced than previously thought.

Finally, the lower cost of the upcoming LFP battery for the Standard Range version is another piece of the puzzle, with Tesla proactively recognizing the current weak point of the Model 3 lineup. The new version allows Tesla to “play ball” with the local competition.


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#2 — GAC Aion S
GAC’s sleek sedan finished second in May, having registered 3,892 units (excluding the 599 Toyota-badged iA5 units). That’s a new year best, and while the Aion S is still far from its 8,460 unit record of last December, the ramp-up continues and should reach cruising speed sometime during the summer. One of the most competitive domestic EVs on the market, the Aion S is sure to remain a regular in this top 5. It is a strong candidate to be in a medal position for the full year.


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#3 — Buick Velite 6
This is something of an oddball in China. Station wagons, especially electric ones, are a niche in this market, but for some reason General Motors and its local partner SAIC thought it was a good idea to bet on them, and while the SAIC version has occasionally shown up here, this is the first time that the GM variation on the theme, the Buick Velite 6, reached a top 5 position. In fact, it earned GM its first medal ever in this market.

This compact wagon (think Chevrolet Cruze or Opel Astra-sized) has a couple of trump cards up its sleeve. Its style is original and striking (imagine if the original Opel Ampera/Chevy Volt had a second generation, and that generation was a wagon). Plus, it has a competitive 53 kWh battery, allowing it a 410 km (255 mile) NEDC range, and a complete set of features, including over-the-air software updates. All of this has allowed the Buick wagon to reach 3,526 registrations in May, by far its best result so far. Although, one wonders if this is just a one time thing, or will the GM EV become a regular feature in this top 5?


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#4 — BYD Qin Pro EV
The popular automaker’s reply to the GAC Aion S and BAIC EU-Series Xpeng P7 reached 3,201 registrations in May. So, BYD’s bet on its electric sedan staying among the podium best sellers is working, but from here on out, demand could end up being an issue, with so many fierce competitors in this category and price range — and let’s not forget the internal competition that the upcoming Han full size car might also provide.


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#5 — NIO ES6
NIO achieved another top showing, with its midsize SUV scoring 2,685 deliveries in May. Facing an uphill battle — after all, marrying “premium” and “Chinese” in one EV-only brand is no easy task — the fact is that NIO products and the concept add something new to the current EV landscape. Not only do they have battery swap stations, but they also increase their models’ battery capacity regularly, from the initial 74 kWh packs back in 2018 to 80 kWh packs in 2019 and now a 100 kWh pack option in 2020. Even better, the brand allows existing owners to upgrade their current batteries to the 100 kWh pack for a little over $5,000!

The ES6 is the current best seller for NIO, but in a few months, the presumably cheaper and lighter EC6 midsize crossover-coupé will land, possibly stealing the thunder from its larger, taller ES6 sibling.



@AZADPAKISTAN2009 the real posers are falling fast.


 
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https://cleantechnica.com/2020/06/19/tesla-model-3-undisputed-leader-in-china-ev-sales-report/
Tesla Model 3 Is Undisputed EV Leader In China — EV Sales Report

While the overall Chinese auto market returned to positive numbers in May (+7% year over year), plugins are still in the red and were down 32% last month, with close to 73,000 registrations.

This plugin vehicle (PEV) subpar performance is concerning, but because it might be connected to the incentives-related sales rush that happened around this same time last year — when incentives were cut towards the end of June — we will have to wait for July to see if growth returns by then, as expected, or if we are in for a lost year.

Still, it was the best month this year regarding volumes, and that showed in May’s PEV share, with 4.4% market share (3.3% fully electric vehicles) pulling the 2020 share up by a tenth of a percentage point, to 4.3% (3.3% BEV). That is still a step below the 5.5% PEV share of 2019, but hopefully the second half of the year will bring the possibility to reach last year’s score.



Looking at May’s best sellers, Tesla dominated the scene, almost tripling the deliveries of the #2 GAC Aion S. The surprise of the month came from Buick, with its Velite 6 station wagon winning May’s bronze medal.

Here’s more on the individual performances of May’s top 5 best selling models:

#1 — Tesla Model 3
The poster child for electric mobility hit a record 11,468 registrations (including estimated imports) in May, and while a record performance is always something to cheer, frankly, I was expecting better (15,000 was my target). While trying to find a reason for this, and after checking the local available inventory and orders, something interesting happened.

While on one hand there was a several-thousand-long waiting list for the Long Range RWD version of the car, on the other there were a few thousand Model 3 Standard Range models sitting in stock, which provides a couple of interesting insights on Model 3 demand. The upper end of the range still has significant demand, while the lower end is suffering from increased competition/adverse times, with the “Tesla is supply constrained” mantra proving to be more nuanced than previously thought.

Finally, the lower cost of the upcoming LFP battery for the Standard Range version is another piece of the puzzle, with Tesla proactively recognizing the current weak point of the Model 3 lineup. The new version allows Tesla to “play ball” with the local competition.

#2 — GAC Aion S
GAC’s sleek sedan finished second in May, having registered 3,892 units (excluding the 599 Toyota-badged iA5 units). That’s a new year best, and while the Aion S is still far from its 8,460 unit record of last December, the ramp-up continues and should reach cruising speed sometime during the summer. One of the most competitive domestic EVs on the market, the Aion S is sure to remain a regular in this top 5. It is a strong candidate to be in a medal position for the full year.

#3 — Buick Velite 6
This is something of an oddball in China. Station wagons, especially electric ones, are a niche in this market, but for some reason General Motors and its local partner SAIC thought it was a good idea to bet on them, and while the SAIC version has occasionally shown up here, this is the first time that the GM variation on the theme, the Buick Velite 6, reached a top 5 position. In fact, it earned GM its first medal ever in this market.

This compact wagon (think Chevrolet Cruze or Opel Astra-sized) has a couple of trump cards up its sleeve. Its style is original and striking (imagine if the original Opel Ampera/Chevy Volt had a second generation, and that generation was a wagon). Plus, it has a competitive 53 kWh battery, allowing it a 410 km (255 mile) NEDC range, and a complete set of features, including over-the-air software updates. All of this has allowed the Buick wagon to reach 3,526 registrations in May, by far its best result so far. Although, one wonders if this is just a one time thing, or will the GM EV become a regular feature in this top 5?

#4 — BYD Qin Pro EV
The popular automaker’s reply to the GAC Aion S and BAIC EU-Series Xpeng P7 reached 3,201 registrations in May. So, BYD’s bet on its electric sedan staying among the podium best sellers is working, but from here on out, demand could end up being an issue, with so many fierce competitors in this category and price range — and let’s not forget the internal competition that the upcoming Han full size car might also provide.

#5 — NIO ES6
NIO achieved another top showing, with its midsize SUV scoring 2,685 deliveries in May. Facing an uphill battle — after all, marrying “premium” and “Chinese” in one EV-only brand is no easy task — the fact is that NIO products and the concept add something new to the current EV landscape. Not only do they have battery swap stations, but they also increase their models’ battery capacity regularly, from the initial 74 kWh packs back in 2018 to 80 kWh packs in 2019 and now a 100 kWh pack option in 2020. Even better, the brand allows existing owners to upgrade their current batteries to the 100 kWh pack for a little over $5,000!

The ES6 is the current best seller for NIO, but in a few months, the presumably cheaper and lighter EC6 midsize crossover-coupé will land, possibly stealing the thunder from its larger, taller ES6 sibling.



@AZADPAKISTAN2009 the real posers are falling fast.


Not before Xp P7 and BYD Han goes into production delivered for customers end of this month. End of year 2020 sales, will be more relevant.

In a 400m run, does being first in 100m makes you already a champion?
 
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Not before Xp P7 and BYD Han goes into production delivered for customers end of this month.
When these beasts make their debut, our "friend" @Hamartia Antidote and his Elon Musk nut-hugging will vanish like a fart in the wind.

Can't wait to see a driving review of the Han. What's really impressive about it is that it manages its monstrous performance with an LFP battery, no cobalt. Unlike Elon "Blood Diamond" Musk.
 
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When these beasts make their debut, our "friend" @Hamartia Antidote and his Elon Musk nut-hugging will vanish like a fart in the wind.

I hope so because I heard lots of BYD Tang, NIO, and others being Tesla killers and so far they have not delivered...

Remember BYD was making electric cars when Tesla was still hacking Lotus Elises in a garage.
 
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I hope so because I heard lots of BYD Tang, NIO, and others being Tesla killers and so far they have not delivered...
Becos this time they have something special which Tesla dont have.

Xpeng P7 have range that surpass Tesla that whatever Tesla can throw.

BYD Han manage to increase its range to 600km using blade battery which is fireproof. Safety combine with range is the ultimate choice.

Can Tesla battery do safety test like that without sacrifice range? I will not put my life on an unsafe car that can easily catch fire if leak or damage.

 
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Can Tesla battery do safety test like that without sacrifice range? I will not put my life on an unsafe car that can easily catch fire if leak or damage.


Well can Xpeng do that too? So don't buy it either. Throw away everything and just keep buying BYD...including for phones.
 
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Xpeng P7 door handles are crap. Idk who designed it. Using both hands to open a door it's a no-no. BYD Han went the same wrong way as tesla model 3 with a big tablet, which looks terrible. Still Tesla model 3 interior is the ugliest from these top 5 cars plus soon (Han and P7).

In my opinion, the best looking is a GAC Aion S from these above.
 
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I hope so because I heard lots of BYD Tang, NIO, and others being Tesla killers and so far they have not delivered...

Remember BYD was making electric cars when Tesla was still hacking Lotus Elises in a garage.

LMAO Tesla hasn't been profitable for 8 years after IPO.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/29/tes...-years-after-ipo-but-it-hasnt-been-alone.html

Tesla still isn't profitable as of January 2020:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/woodmackenzie/2020/01/20/when-will-tesla-make-a-profit/

Unlike state and investment bank nepotism supported corporate zombies like Tesla, BYD actually has to show a profit on their EVs because their development costs are out of their own pocket and taken from other parts of their business. Tesla develops with other people's money.

its much easier to play with other people's money for decades than to actually use your own money.
 
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Let the competition begin!
I will say too many Chinese EV manufacturers enjoyed free lunch for too long.
Especially those state owned ones. Let the market teach them a lesson.
 
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Let the competition begin!
I will say too many Chinese EV manufacturers enjoyed free lunch for too long.
Especially those state owned ones. Let the market teach them a lesson.

That's for sure
2009 BYD plans to open plants in the US to make 100% electric passenger cars that can recharge 50% in ten minutes.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/12/30/21042493/tesla-chinese-model-3-cars-gigafactory-3-shanghai
Tesla’s Chinese factory just delivered its first cars

https://electrek.co/2019/12/06/tesla-worlds-largest-ev-automaker-byd/
Tesla becomes world’s largest EV automaker, surpasses China’s BYD
 
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Let the competition begin!
I will say too many Chinese EV manufacturers enjoyed free lunch for too long.
Especially those state owned ones. Let the market teach them a lesson.

here is the real free lunch: Tesla posts billions in losses for 10+ years and still gets money shoveled at it due to state backing and investment bank nepotism.

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Meanwhile BYD is profitable:

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Tesla's financials are a big question mark. How does a company that posts billions in losses year after year still get money shoveled at it?

And how can BYD and Chinese auto companies compete fairly with a company that does not have any regard to profit or loss and can pursue market share at any cost?

Tesla is dumping cars in the Chinese market by selling them at a loss. That is the literal definition of dumping.
 
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Tesla crashes into overturned stationary truck in Taiwan. :disagree:

 
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here is the real free lunch: Tesla posts billions in losses for 10+ years and still gets money shoveled at it due to state backing and investment bank nepotism.

US-Tesla-net-income-annual-2019.png


Meanwhile BYD is profitable:

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Tesla's financials are a big question mark. How does a company that posts billions in losses year after year still get money shoveled at it?

And how can BYD and Chinese auto companies compete fairly with a company that does not have any regard to profit or loss and can pursue market share at any cost?

Tesla is dumping cars in the Chinese market by selling them at a loss. That is the literal definition of dumping.
Let's get the facts right.
Investers has confidence on Tesla that's why Tesla can keep getting cash to burn.
Tesla is not dumping cars, their cars are good that's why Chinese users buy it.

I'm not saying BYD is bad though. BYD did a very good job especially for EV bus etc.
But they need to make their sedans better in terms of designs etc. After all that's the most important market.

In short, BYD is more a transitional car manufacturer. While Tesla is a Internet campany like car manufacturer!
 
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Let's get the facts right.
Investers has confidence on Tesla that's why Tesla can keep getting cash to burn.
Tesla is not dumping cars, their cars are good that's why Chinese users buy it.

I'm not saying BYD is bad though. BYD did a very good job especially for EV bus etc.
But they need to make their sedans better in terms of designs etc. After all that's the most important market.

In short, BYD is more a transitional car manufacturer. While Tesla is a Internet campany like car manufacturer!

Investors have confidence in Elon Musk because he's a good ole boy that the nepotistic elite love.

If he was Chinese American Elon Mao or Mexican American Elon Mendez he wouldn't get a fucking dime to even start, and even if he did, the investors would not only dump his *** but sue him for fraud if he posted 10 years of losses.
 
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