China Cementing Global Dominance of Renewable Energy and Technology

[liall]

Well certain birds may die if we use wind power but if we dont everybody including more birds will die because of global warming. I say good on China and we need to move to 3rd position up from 5th.

 

[TaiShang]

Well certain birds may die if we use wind power but if we dont everybody including more birds will die because of global warming. I say good on China and we need to move to 3rd position up from 5th.

That makes sense. There is a cost for progress. The point is not to stop progress and development, but, seek further technological/industrial sophistication.

Especially in their fast development stage (catch up phase), countries will unavoidably put greater burden on nature than the developed countries that already went through that stage.

 

[AndrewJin]

Lol! you chinês didn't sprout from a fish that popped out of a magic river.
Yes, we care about our environment...we wouldn't want to ruin it... like some countries do.

I don't think illegals in US care.
They are more interested in how to get free stuff.
Don't worry, Trump will stop the establishment from giving them residency.

 

[war&peace]

Wind Power seemed like the ultimate "go to" clean energy source 40 years ago...however an unforeseen consequence has been an extremely large number of birds killed a year ...especially large ones like eagles.
This has really soured public opinion.

This infact is not true. The top bird killers are the high rise buildings, high tension lines, cats,.....and then wind turbines.

From the chart it is understood that the US in fact invested significantly. In fact, since the early 90s, US governments have been subsidizing clean energy, including wind, which only expired 20 years and billions of dollars later in 2013 because it is believed the industry was now self-sustained.

Perhaps few questioned billions of dollars of annual subsidies to oil companies that do environmentally not so friendly fracking and all other stuff.

If wind has stalled in the US, the reason must be "my lobbyist stronger than yours" rather than some abstract environment consciousness.

That's true, PTC failed for wind energy in 2013

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

This infact is not true. The top bird killers are the high rise buildings, high tension lines, cats,.....and then wind turbines.
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That's true, PTC failed for wind energy in 2013

Nobody is claiming Wind Farms are the #1 killer of birds. It just is adding to an already big problem...especially with larger birds vs tiny sparrows.

PTC for wind farms was renewed after it expired 2013. Even Warren Buffet is pushing to build a new Wind Farm using it.

 

[war&peace]

Nobody is claiming Wind Farms are the #1 killer of birds. It just is adding to an already big problem.

PTC for wind farms was renewed after it expired 2013. Even Warren Buffet is pushing to build a new Wind Farm using it.

What an idiotic and brainless strategy to focus on the smallest of them all according to the scientific data.....why not they focus on the main causes i.e. buildings and window, high tension lines,...simply because the anti-renewable energy lobby has a lot of money and it is easy to hire a few NGOs run by jobless people to do propaganda and change the perception of the people.
As far as PTC is concerned, the actions speak louder than words once USA was leading the world in wind energy and now its China and the gap is increasing every year.

 

[AndrewJin]

What an idiotic and brainless strategy to focus on the smallest of them all according to the scientific data.....why not they focus on the main causes i.e. buildings and window, high tension lines,...simply because the anti-renewable energy lobby has a lot of money and it is easy to hire a few NGOs run by jobless people to do propaganda and change the perception of the people.
As far as PTC is concerned, the actions speak louder than words once USA was leading the world in wind energy and now its China and the gap is increasing every year.

Lobbyists are gradually ruining Indigenous Americans' land.
Trump will shut them up.

 

[hexagonsnow]

USA care more about oil than new power resource although the rich wind power resource in the mid-west of American.what a pity！USA really addict to her oil power system which contract with sustain system may lead them fall behind in new sustainable power revolution in the future.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

USA care more about oil than new power resource although the rich wind power resource in the mid-west of American.what a pity！USA really addict to her oil power system which contract with sustain system may lead them fall behind in new sustainable power revolution in the future.

Actually oil is an insignificant percentage of our electrical power generation (1%). You'd think it would be high but it isn't.

What an idiotic and brainless strategy to focus on the smallest of them all according to the scientific data.....why not they focus on the main causes i.e. buildings and window, high tension lines,...simply because the anti-renewable energy lobby has a lot of money and it is easy to hire a few NGOs run by jobless people to do propaganda and change the perception of the people.
As far as PTC is concerned, the actions speak louder than words once USA was leading the world in wind energy and now its China and the gap is increasing every year.

I can sum it up with 3 letters: DDT

 

[AndrewJin]

USA care more about oil than new power resource although the rich wind power resource in the mid-west of American.what a pity！USA really addict to her oil power system which contract with sustain system may lead them fall behind in new sustainable power revolution in the future.

Actually they are more addicted to the Wall power.

 

[Jlaw]

yes, yes. We should all obey the always-correct public opinion:
- coal power is making global warming, therefore we should abandon it.
- hydro power is killing fishes and may result in other unforeseen consequences, therefore we should abandon it.
- nuclear power is toooo dangerous, therefore we should abandon it.
- wind power is killing birds, therefore we should abandon it.
- solar power, ummm, the production of solar panels makes many pollutants, we should also abandon it.

Ok, tell me which energy resource we could use now? Can the politically-correct attitude be used for electricity generation? Or maybe we should all go back to the caves and stop using electricity??

You mistaken his points. Only if China does it than it's bad. If democratic nations do it, it's ok because democracy cures everything

 

[AndrewJin]

You mistaken his points. Only if China does it than it's bad. If democratic nations do it, it's ok because democracy cures everything

That's why I find its every reply funny as Trump&Wallism

 

[GS Zhou]

You mistaken his points. Only if China does it than it's bad. If democratic nations do it, it's ok because democracy cures everything

yeah! the mighty democrazy!

 

[greenwood]

Nobody is claiming Wind Farms are the #1 killer of birds. It just is adding to an already big problem...especially with larger birds vs tiny sparrows.

PTC for wind farms was renewed after it expired 2013. Even Warren Buffet is pushing to build a new Wind Farm using it.

Research says nuclear submarines are main killer of whale and dolphins. America has the largest number of this kind of whale killer, which make day and night those poor huge animals miss their way, swim to wrong destinations and can't find their generation couple.

 

[war&peace]

I can sum it up with 3 letters: DDT

Sorry sir I'm not a cryptic analyst...would like to explain what does DDT means?