China asks local airlines to ground Boeing 737 Max

[ZeEa5KPul]

China asks local airlines to ground Boeing 737 Max: Report

A Boeing 737 Max passenger airplane at the Boeing Zhoushan completion center in Zhoushan, China.PHOTO: REUTERS
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SYDNEY (BLOOMBERG) - China asked domestic airlines to temporarily ground Boeing Co 737 Max jets after a model operated by Ethiopian Airlines crashed on Sunday (March 10), Caijing reported, citing an unidentified industry participant.

Flight ET302 plunged to the ground minutes after leaving Addis Ababa en route to Nairobi, Kenya, killing all 157 people on board.

It was the second deadly accident in five months for the US manufacturer's best-selling jet.

A Lion Air 737 Max plunged into the Java Sea off the coast of Indonesia on Oct 29, killing 189 passengers and crew.

A preliminary report indicated that pilots struggled to maintain control following an equipment malfunction.

A Boeing representative didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/a...ocal-airlines-to-ground-boeing-737-max-report

Good call. It's already two crashes in the space of a few months involving this Western trash. China doesn't need this junk putting people's lives in danger.

 

[Mrc]

A very sound decision after 2 crashes

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

Given the seriousness of the present situation, I propose that China ground all 737s and place a moratorium on all further purchases from Boeing until an independent investigation is completed and Boeing shares all technical data regarding this aircraft with Chinese aviation authorities.

 

[beijingwalker]

China Orders Airlines to Ground All Boeing 737 Max 8 Aircraft

By Keith Bradsher
March 10, 2019

BEIJING — Responding to the second crash of a Boeing 737 Max 8 soon after takeoff in less than five months, China ordered its airlines on Monday morning to ground all 96 of the aircraft that they operate.

The Civil Aviation Administration of China noted in its announcement of the grounding that both the Ethiopian Airlines crash on Sunday and a Lion Air crash in Indonesia in late October had involved very recently delivered Boeing 737 Max 8 aircraft that crashed soon after takeoff.

The Chinese aviation regulator said in its announcement that it had notified Chinese air carriers at 9 a.m. that they had nine hours to take the planes out of service. But the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission, a government agency that oversees the Chinese government’s large stakes in airlines and many other industries, announced on Weibo, a social media site, just an hour later that all of the carriers’ 96 Boeing 737 Max 8s had already been grounded.

Flight tracking websites showed that Chinese airlines were substituting Boeing 737-800s on Monday morning on routes where they had previously operated a Boeing 737 Max 8.

China’s main airlines are among the biggest users so far of the new Boeing jets, having taken delivery of most of the planes they have ordered so far. By contrast, many other carriers, often in slower-growing markets than China’s, have taken delivery of only a small fraction of their orders for the Boeing 737 Max 8.

Separately, Boeing said it was postponing the external debut of its 777X plane, which had been planned for Wednesday. The company took the action in a statement in which it said it was “deeply saddened” by the Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 accident.

On a commercial level, China’s aviation sector could actually benefit from the tragedies in Indonesia and Ethiopia. A government-owned company in Shanghai has begun doing flight tests of a Chinese-made alternative to the Boeing 737, called the Comac C919. The C919 is the cornerstone of China’s effort to build a commercial aviation competitor to Boeing and Airbus.

The C919 has already attracted hundreds of orders from air carriers in China’s state-controlled airline industry. But China has struggled to find overseas buyers beyond securing a handful of orders from tiny airlines in impoverished countries that are heavily dependent on Chinese aid.

Overseas buyers are interested in the C919’s safety performance as the fleet rolls out, although they have also been concerned by reports that the plane is considerably less fuel efficient than the Boeing or Airbus rivals.

The question now is whether the two crashes of the Boeing 737 Max 8 will make more airlines willing to try the Chinese alternative instead — although airlines might switch instead to the better-known Airbus alternative, the A320neo.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/10/business/boeing-737-max-8-aircraft-crash-china.html

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

China Orders Airlines to Ground All Boeing 737 Max 8 Aircraft

By Keith Bradsher
March 10, 2019

BEIJING — Responding to the second crash of a Boeing 737 Max 8 soon after takeoff in less than five months, China ordered its airlines on Monday morning to ground all 96 of the aircraft that they operate.

The Civil Aviation Administration of China noted in its announcement of the grounding that both the Ethiopian Airlines crash on Sunday and a Lion Air crash in Indonesia in late October had involved very recently delivered Boeing 737 Max 8 aircraft that crashed soon after takeoff.

The Chinese aviation regulator said in its announcement that it had notified Chinese air carriers at 9 a.m. that they had nine hours to take the planes out of service. But the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission, a government agency that oversees the Chinese government’s large stakes in airlines and many other industries, announced on Weibo, a social media site, just an hour later that all of the carriers’ 96 Boeing 737 Max 8s had already been grounded.

Flight tracking websites showed that Chinese airlines were substituting Boeing 737-800s on Monday morning on routes where they had previously operated a Boeing 737 Max 8.

China’s main airlines are among the biggest users so far of the new Boeing jets, having taken delivery of most of the planes they have ordered so far. By contrast, many other carriers, often in slower-growing markets than China’s, have taken delivery of only a small fraction of their orders for the Boeing 737 Max 8.

Separately, Boeing said it was postponing the external debut of its 777X plane, which had been planned for Wednesday. The company took the action in a statement in which it said it was “deeply saddened” by the Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 accident.

On a commercial level, China’s aviation sector could actually benefit from the tragedies in Indonesia and Ethiopia. A government-owned company in Shanghai has begun doing flight tests of a Chinese-made alternative to the Boeing 737, called the Comac C919. The C919 is the cornerstone of China’s effort to build a commercial aviation competitor to Boeing and Airbus.

The C919 has already attracted hundreds of orders from air carriers in China’s state-controlled airline industry. But China has struggled to find overseas buyers beyond securing a handful of orders from tiny airlines in impoverished countries that are heavily dependent on Chinese aid.

Overseas buyers are interested in the C919’s safety performance as the fleet rolls out, although they have also been concerned by reports that the plane is considerably less fuel efficient than the Boeing or Airbus rivals.

The question now is whether the two crashes of the Boeing 737 Max 8 will make more airlines willing to try the Chinese alternative instead — although airlines might switch instead to the better-known Airbus alternative, the A320neo.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/10/business/boeing-737-max-8-aircraft-crash-china.html

Oof thats gotta hurt Boeing

 

[GumNaam]

Wow, not a good sign for Boeing...

 

[Imran Khan]

Why its happen must be know now

 

[khansaheeb]

Scary stuff:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Boeing_737_MAX_orders_and_deliveries

 

[Mughal-Prince]

The cat of Max series outa bag now ... they were having battery issues earlier and their were many different new technologies introduced in it together ...

 

[rambro]

Its the right thing todo.

Boeing better have some concrete answers, instead of building even higher capacity passenger planes.

 

[Sabretooth]

In layman terms, Boeing did the same with 737 as one would do in Pakistan by putting all the accessories of full option corolla in Suzuki Alto.

 

[Enigma SIG]

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/10/africa/ethiopian-airlines-crash-boeing-max-8-intl/index.html

"At the root of October's Lion Air crash was a new safety system installed in the MAX 8 plane, known as the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS), that automatically pulls the plane's nose down if data suggests it is at risk.
In that flight, the system was responding to faulty data that suggested the nose was tilted at a higher angle than it was, indicating the plane was at risk of stalling. "

Why does the MCAS engage at take-off or landing automatically? Seems to me like shoddy engineering. Engineers should be fired. This should have been fixed after the first crash

2nd crash of the same model in a year. Do any of our airlines operate this model?

 

[gambit]

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/10/africa/ethiopian-airlines-crash-boeing-max-8-intl/index.html

Why does the MCAS engage at take-off or landing automatically? Seems to me like shoddy engineering. Engineers should be fired. This should have been fixed after the first crash

2nd crash of the same model in a year. Do any of our airlines operate this model?

I take it you speak from extensive personal experience in aviation, particularly avionics design?

 

[Enigma SIG]

I take it you speak from extensive personal experience in aviation, particularly avionics design?

Ad hominem? I'm entitled to my opinion. Plus if the engineers did indeed find that the MCAS was at fault for the crash and sent out a bulletin for training the crew on new procedures; the appropriate action was "in my opinion" to shut the system for all take-off and landing segments of the flight; unless they had other "major" cascading failures to deal with if the MCAS was shut off.

 

[Beast]

Made in USA crap.