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China and Pakistan’s Budding Alliance Just Got Awkward

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Xi jinping still has a better record with Muslims than a murderer Modi
Xi jinping greeting muslims during this Ramazan

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This is hilarious statement.

Xi Ping greeted the muslims with a flamethower.

Actually the exact opposite, language courses in Chinese and Urdu, being learned in both the PLA, PA and other armed forces.
Good thing. People to people contact is always good.

Burnol please!

Pakistan is the second most populous Muslim country in the world. Not easy to ignore.
Neither is headache then what? Is there a point

PS. You dont need burnol for that or do you.
 
There are always some external forces trying to divide China into chaos and to stop the pace of China's development. These schemes will not succeed.

The constitution of the people's Republic of China stipulates: "citizens of the people's Republic of China have freedom of religious belief." "No state organ, social organization or individual may compel citizens to believe in or not to believe in religion, or to discriminate against citizens who believe in religion or who do not believe in religion." "The state protects normal religious activities." It also stipulates: "no one shall use religion to disrupt social order, impair the health of citizens and interfere with the activities of the state education system", "religious bodies and religious affairs are not subject to foreign forces."

There are different religions in China, such as Buddhism, Taoism, Islam, Christianity and other religions, but there has never been a bloody conflict.


 
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On the surface, it’d be easy to view Pakistan and China as two close, emerging friends with mutual distrust of India — while hedging against a U.S. government that is increasingly wary of Pakistan and assertive in the Pacific.

Beijing provides Pakistan with a wide range of advisers and equipment — including warplanes — for conventional military operations, and assists Islamabad’s nuclear program. Meanwhile, Pakistan gives China a platform to engage with the Muslim world, including backdoor talks with the Taliban.

However, not everyone in Pakistan is totally on board. In May, controversial Islamist hardliner Hafiz Sayeed of the Pakistani group Jaamat ud Dawa condemned Beijing’s policies toward Muslim Uighurs in China’s western Xinjiang region — which borders Pakistan.

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The speech came shortly after China hosted the Second National Conference on Religion in Beijing. During the event, Chinese Pres. Xi Jinping urged citizens to shun religion in favor of the state policy of “Marxist Atheism.” In particular, he urged people to be suspicious of Islamic customs such as halal foods.

“By uttering such statements, China is hurting its time-tested relations with the people of Pakistan,” Sayeed said. Speaking to his congregation in Lahore, Sayeed said that while China is Pakistan’s ally, “any comment that hurts our religion, Islam, is not acceptable and we urge the Chinese leadership to take it back.”

Many Uighurs in Xinjiang have become members of a protest movement opposing the Chinese government. It’s a fractured movement of disparate groups and individuals variously motivated by political activism, ethnic nationalism and religious grievances.

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An Uighur rights protest outside the White House in 2009. Malcolm Brown/Flickr photo
Last year, the Chinese military reported it killed 28 members of an Uighur group that reportedly carried out a deadly attack at a coal mine. During the battle, Chinese troops used flamethrowers to kill Uighurs hiding in caves. However, Dilxat Raxit, a spokesman for the World Uyghur Congress claimed those killed weren’t militants and weren’t even armed.

“The Paris attacks gave China a political excuse to brazenly use flamethrowers to clamp down on unarmed Uighurs who have no just legal protection and who seek to avoid arrest,” Raxit told Reuters.

But some Uighurs have taken up arms. And not just in Xinjiang. More than 100 Chinese Muslims are fighting with the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. And some militant Uighurs have taken to hiding in nearby Pakistan and Afghanistan. China has urged Islamabad to root out these militants and stamp down on Islamist propaganda possibly flowing into Xinjiang from Pakistan.

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The July 2016 issue of U.S. Army Foreign Military Studies Office’s magazine O.E. Watch noted that while the Sino-Pakistani alliance probably won’t be seriously threatened by Sayeed or other religious figures, the dispute does have the potential to complicate relations.

“There are sympathizers and followers of Sayeed in the Pakistani military and political institutions who could be influenced by his rhetoric,” analyst Jacob Zenn wrote. “Ill will towards China could also embolden and bolster support for militant groups in Pakistan, including both religious and secular ethno-nationalist groups that target overseas Chinese workers.”

Recently, the two countries have experienced drama over delays in the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor. The project would be a boost to Pakistan’s crumbling infrastructure and energy sector, while Beijing will get a free trade zone in Pakistan’s Gwadar port along with direct access to the Arabian Sea. The corridor would connect with landlocked Xinjiang.

But slow progress on roads and other projects has prompted Chinese officials to suggest that the Pakistani military take a larger role in the project. Currently the Pakistani military is providing security for the corridor.

While some Pakistani officials noted that the military could provide logistical aid to the endeavor, others have suggested that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif of the ruling Pakistan Muslim League party wants to maintain as much control of the project as possible so that his party can tout the corridor as a major accomplishment in the next election.

Whoever has the seat of power in Islamabad must ultimately maintain a healthy relationship with Beijing. Even if Pakistan’s Islamists are wary of their neighbors in China, military and trade ties between the two will likely bind both nations for years to come.

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Indian wishful thinking, keep hoping
 

my basic take on China-Pakistan relationship
short to intermediate term it is a hedge against India for both of them
long term from Pakistan's perspective China is a big market to pursue

Otherwise there are no cultural, religious, economic or political reasons for this friendship to continue. If you do not believe look no further than India-Russia relationship.

Pakistan has two real choices
economic common market with Iran, Turkey with Afghanistan/some Central Asian Republics
some kind of economic arrangement with India
 
when india cant make good relationship with China they start weeping... you want china solve your disputes other wise you have to cry for NSG for rest of your life... making this useless effort wont get u anywhere...
world knows how india create issues out of non issue.. :)
CPEC hurts right!
 
when india cant make good relationship with China they start weeping... you want china solve your disputes other wise you have to cry for NSG for rest of your life... making this useless effort wont get u anywhere...
world knows how india create issues out of non issue.. :)
CPEC hurts right!

India and China have a working relationship
they will be rivals and competitors. but they are plenty of common interests

India will be a NSG member without Pakistan joining. the world needs India to cut Co2 emissions to combat global warming. it is that simple.
 
India and China have a working relationship
they will be rivals and competitors. but they are plenty of common interests

India will be a NSG member without Pakistan joining. the world needs India to cut Co2 emissions to combat global warming. it is that simple.
Relationship wont last long if you have disputes .. if China Pak can solve border issues China Russia solves it why cant india having problem with Pak and china.
they want you to combat with CO2 cuz you have been the most polluted and highly under developed..
 
Relationship wont last long if you have disputes .. if China Pak can solve border issues China Russia solves it why cant india having problem with Pak and china.
they want you to combat with CO2 cuz you have been the most polluted and highly under developed..

China has not solved border disputes with Japan and South China Sea.

India and China have not fought a war in 54 years. it will stay that way.

India has 1.1 billion people. Even with 1/10th the emissions of developed country we will be 3rd or 4th most largest producer of greenhouse gases
 
If china has leftist interests in pakistan, that would have been good news for all of asia, as that would have countered the extreme religious cool aid pakistanis drink without a viable alternative.

Unfortunately like with other foreign powers that have used pakistan to do their dirty work, chinas interest in pakistan is capitalistic. So their interests lie in pakistan remaining a religious hotbed and ready supplier of land, merceneries and consessions of sovereignty as and when needed. All this while china urges own people to become rational and guards own sovereignty with an iron fist. Same story, different buyer.
 
dispute in water is not as big as it looks but india fought war with Pak and China created issues with Bangladesh and Srilanka.
developed countries produce more emission but they still want india to fight for it.. cuz they know this way they wont get any result india is champion of lingering.
 
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