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China’s Defiance of International Court Has Precedent—U.S. Defiance
By
JEREMY PAGE
Updated July 7, 2016 7:51 p.m. ET


BEIJING—Beijing’s determination to reject an international tribunal’s ruling next weekon its South China Sea claims is unusual but not unprecedented. There is one especially notable case of a powerful nation ignoring an international court’s verdict: the U.S.

In 1986, the International Court of Justice in The Hague ruled in favor of Nicaragua in a case the Central American nation brought against the U.S. for aiding Nicaraguan Contra rebels and mining the country’s ports in a bid to undermine its socialist government.

The U.S. boycotted most of the proceedings, saying the court had no jurisdiction, and refused to observe its verdict, which granted Nicaragua an initial award of $370 million. The U.S. then used its permanent seat on the United Nations Security Council to veto resolutions demanding it observe the Nicaragua ruling, ignored another passed by the U.N. General Assembly, and only stopped aiding the Contras when blocked by the U.S. Congress in 1988.

China’s case at the Permanent Court of Arbitration, also in The Hague, was similarly brought by a small country against its giant neighbor. The Philippines argues that China’s claims over a vast expanse of the South China Sea, which Beijing has delineated with a “nine-dash line,” violate international law.

China also disputed the court’s jurisdiction and refused to take part in the proceedings. And if, as expected, the tribunal rules against China on several counts, Beijing is expected to adopt an approach similar to that of the U.S. 30 years ago: Ignore the ruling and muscle through.

That, however, is “not the end of the story,” said Paul Reichler, the lead lawyer for the Philippines, who also represented Nicaragua against the U.S.

He described the earlier case as a “blemish on the U.S. moral posture and its ability to project itself as a promoter of a rules-based international order.” China would face similar reputational damage, he said, as well as further legal challenges, if it disregarded the ruling.

As with many cases involving international law, the verdict, while legally binding, can only be enforced through international pressure—and the U.S. and its allies are sure to continue pressing Beijing to comply.

To counter that, Beijing has been trying to line up dozens of mostly small, developing nations to support its position in recent weeks. And China can use its own permanent seat on the Security Council to veto any enforcement effort there, as the U.S. did.

“If the tribunal insisted on its way and produced an ‘award,’ no one and no country should implement the award in any form, much less to force China into implementation,” said Dai Bingguo, China’s top foreign-affairs official from 2008 to 2013, in a speech in Washington on Tuesday.

In Beijing’s view, Washington’s position is undermined by the Nicaragua case and U.S. failure to ratify the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea, or Unclos, on which the ruling will be based.

U.S. officials say Washington abides by the terms of Unclos and the comparison with the Nicaragua case is inapt because the U.S. participated in the case at the initial stage, to determine jurisdiction, and ultimately resolved the dispute with Nicaragua in 1991. A new government there dropped the case that year in exchange for U.S. aid.

Still, Chinese officials have been studying the Nicaragua case as a precedent for disputing the tribunal’s jurisdiction, and for dealing with the international fallout, according to people involved in those efforts.

They said Chinese government lawyers have examined other examples of countries that bucked rulings from The Hague, including Russia in a case brought by the Netherlands over Moscow’s seizure of a Greenpeace ship in 2013.

China may be borrowing another page from the U.S. playbook in trying to negotiate a deal to shelve the issue with the Philippines’ new president, Rodrigo Duterte, possibly in exchange for Chinese aid or investment, according to foreign-policy analysts and diplomats.

Even so, China may find that ignoring the judgment makes life difficult in other ways, offering a pressure point to those seeking to stem its maritime ambitions.

The U.S. and its allies could step up their efforts to challenge China’s claims through “freedom of navigation” operations. The U.S. and China both moved naval ships into the South China Sea this week for what they call routine drills but which many interpreted as a sign of heightened tension.

China may also expose itself to further legal challenges from other claimants—particularly Vietnam, which has also aggressively challenged Beijing’s position and backed the arbitration.

A further risk is that China, after decades of presenting itself as a champion of small and developing nations, is seen by them as acting like a superpower that regards itself as exempt from international law.

Daniel Fung, a Hong Kong-based lawyer who co-wrote a submission to the tribunal arguing that it lacked jurisdiction, said ignoring the ruling could cut both ways.

On the one hand, it would show China acting like a traditional superpower, capable of resisting international pressure and criticism, as the U.S. was in 1986, he said. But it could be viewed negatively for the same reasons.

Ultimately, predicted Mr. Reichler, the lawyer for the Philippines, Beijing will reach an accommodation with its neighbors that reflects the ruling, or risk portraying itself as an outlaw state.

“It may take six months, it may take a year, it may take two years, it may take more, but I think it’s inevitable,” he said.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/chinas-...al-court-has-precedentu-s-defiance-1467919982
 
So China is sure that the judgement will go against it. Interesting.
 
China’s Defiance of International Court Has Precedent—U.S. Defiance
By
JEREMY PAGE
Updated July 7, 2016 7:51 p.m. ET


BEIJING—Beijing’s determination to reject an international tribunal’s ruling next weekon its South China Sea claims is unusual but not unprecedented. There is one especially notable case of a powerful nation ignoring an international court’s verdict: the U.S.

In 1986, the International Court of Justice in The Hague ruled in favor of Nicaragua in a case the Central American nation brought against the U.S. for aiding Nicaraguan Contra rebels and mining the country’s ports in a bid to undermine its socialist government.

The U.S. boycotted most of the proceedings, saying the court had no jurisdiction, and refused to observe its verdict, which granted Nicaragua an initial award of $370 million. The U.S. then used its permanent seat on the United Nations Security Council to veto resolutions demanding it observe the Nicaragua ruling, ignored another passed by the U.N. General Assembly, and only stopped aiding the Contras when blocked by the U.S. Congress in 1988.

China’s case at the Permanent Court of Arbitration, also in The Hague, was similarly brought by a small country against its giant neighbor. The Philippines argues that China’s claims over a vast expanse of the South China Sea, which Beijing has delineated with a “nine-dash line,” violate international law.

China also disputed the court’s jurisdiction and refused to take part in the proceedings. And if, as expected, the tribunal rules against China on several counts, Beijing is expected to adopt an approach similar to that of the U.S. 30 years ago: Ignore the ruling and muscle through.

That, however, is “not the end of the story,” said Paul Reichler, the lead lawyer for the Philippines, who also represented Nicaragua against the U.S.

He described the earlier case as a “blemish on the U.S. moral posture and its ability to project itself as a promoter of a rules-based international order.” China would face similar reputational damage, he said, as well as further legal challenges, if it disregarded the ruling.

As with many cases involving international law, the verdict, while legally binding, can only be enforced through international pressure—and the U.S. and its allies are sure to continue pressing Beijing to comply.

To counter that, Beijing has been trying to line up dozens of mostly small, developing nations to support its position in recent weeks. And China can use its own permanent seat on the Security Council to veto any enforcement effort there, as the U.S. did.

“If the tribunal insisted on its way and produced an ‘award,’ no one and no country should implement the award in any form, much less to force China into implementation,” said Dai Bingguo, China’s top foreign-affairs official from 2008 to 2013, in a speech in Washington on Tuesday.

In Beijing’s view, Washington’s position is undermined by the Nicaragua case and U.S. failure to ratify the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea, or Unclos, on which the ruling will be based.

U.S. officials say Washington abides by the terms of Unclos and the comparison with the Nicaragua case is inapt because the U.S. participated in the case at the initial stage, to determine jurisdiction, and ultimately resolved the dispute with Nicaragua in 1991. A new government there dropped the case that year in exchange for U.S. aid.

Still, Chinese officials have been studying the Nicaragua case as a precedent for disputing the tribunal’s jurisdiction, and for dealing with the international fallout, according to people involved in those efforts.

They said Chinese government lawyers have examined other examples of countries that bucked rulings from The Hague, including Russia in a case brought by the Netherlands over Moscow’s seizure of a Greenpeace ship in 2013.

China may be borrowing another page from the U.S. playbook in trying to negotiate a deal to shelve the issue with the Philippines’ new president, Rodrigo Duterte, possibly in exchange for Chinese aid or investment, according to foreign-policy analysts and diplomats.

Even so, China may find that ignoring the judgment makes life difficult in other ways, offering a pressure point to those seeking to stem its maritime ambitions.

The U.S. and its allies could step up their efforts to challenge China’s claims through “freedom of navigation” operations. The U.S. and China both moved naval ships into the South China Sea this week for what they call routine drills but which many interpreted as a sign of heightened tension.

China may also expose itself to further legal challenges from other claimants—particularly Vietnam, which has also aggressively challenged Beijing’s position and backed the arbitration.

A further risk is that China, after decades of presenting itself as a champion of small and developing nations, is seen by them as acting like a superpower that regards itself as exempt from international law.

Daniel Fung, a Hong Kong-based lawyer who co-wrote a submission to the tribunal arguing that it lacked jurisdiction, said ignoring the ruling could cut both ways.

On the one hand, it would show China acting like a traditional superpower, capable of resisting international pressure and criticism, as the U.S. was in 1986, he said. But it could be viewed negatively for the same reasons.

Ultimately, predicted Mr. Reichler, the lawyer for the Philippines, Beijing will reach an accommodation with its neighbors that reflects the ruling, or risk portraying itself as an outlaw state.

“It may take six months, it may take a year, it may take two years, it may take more, but I think it’s inevitable,” he said.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/chinas-...al-court-has-precedentu-s-defiance-1467919982

PCA's ruling is not binding i.e. it is not forcable. Short of WW3... how can someone force China?

Lawyer's point of view is predictable. China has always accomodated its neighbours. Sometimes too much. Becuase of Chinese over cautious approach.

But then again if now China retreats there is more to loose. ECS, SCS and much more.

Hopefully, an inter-ASEAN approach will solve this non issue. Nine dashline was historically belongs to China. There was a great article at Forbes about this written by an American.
 
S.China sea dispute: China does not want India to toe US line

China expects India to react cautiously to the outcome of the international arbitration on the South China Sea dispute, without being influenced by the United States.

Beijing has conveyed to New Delhi that it would expect India to maintain that bilateral and friendly dialogue between China and its neighbours was the only way to resolve the South China Sea dispute, sources told DH.

China reached out to India as the Permanent Court of Arbitration based in The Hague is set to issue its award on the dispute on July 12.

Beijing has already made it clear that China would neither accept nor recognise the ruling because the arbitration process was unilaterally initiated by Philippines and had been “illegal, null and void” right from the beginning.

It conveyed that Beijing would expect New Delhi’s reaction to the award of the arbitral tribunal to be consistent to the position of Russia, India and China as enunciated in the joint statement issued after the meeting of the foreign ministers of the three nations in Moscow on April 18, sources said.

The RIC (Russia-India-China) foreign ministers had agreed that all maritime disputes, including the South China Sea controversy, should be addressed “through negotiations and agreements between the parties concerned”.

Foreign Minister Sushma Swaraj had attended the meeting along with her Russian and Chinese counterparts Sergey Lavrov and Wang Yi.

Race for seas

Russia-India-China foreign ministers had a meeting in Moscow on April 18

They agreed that all maritime disputes be addressed “through negotiations and agreements between the parties concerned”

Permanent Court of Arbitration based in The Hague is set to issue its award on the South China Sea dispute on July 12

The joint statement issued after the meeting noted that Russia, India and China were committed to maintaining a legal order for the seas and oceans based on the principles of international law, as reflected notably in the UN Convention on the Law of Sea (UNCLOS). The ministers also called for full respect of all provisions of UNCLOS, as well as the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea (DOC) and the Guidelines for the implementation of the DOC.

India had earlier raised its pitch over the South China Sea dispute, joining US and Japan to call for “peaceful settlement” of maritime disputes in accordance with international laws and maintenance of “freedom of navigation and over-flight and unimpeded lawful commerce” through sea-lanes in the disputed waters. India had also urged all States to avoid unilateral actions that could lead to tensions in the South China Sea – apparently making a call to China to refrain from building new islands and air-strips in the disputed waters.

The reference to the dispute in the past in the India-US and India-Japan joint statements has irked China. The latest India-US joint statement issued after Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s meeting with US president Barack Obama in Washington DC early last month, however, had no mention of the dispute.


P5 don't, but others have to.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

P5 is a joke.
 
True, but India is dying to be part of it.

Cause that's the foundation of UN, UN would be a joke in your theory, which I kind of agree.

Whether India wants to part of it or not, is a different story.
But the fact remains P5 and UN are the biggest jokes in this world.

I wonder why Iraq and some many other sovereign countries didn't bring US to the tribunal when US invaded them?
Same happenned when you occupied India terittory Akshai Chin, and Tibet.
 
Same happenned when you occupied India terittory Akshai Chin, and Tibet.

Since when Tibet becomes a sovereign country? Tibet is never a disputed land in UN, India controlled Kashmir is.

Whether India wants to part of it or not, is a different story.
But the fact remains P5 and UN are the biggest jokes in this world.
.
Thank you for supporting us ignoring this joke.
 
The difference is that the US v. Nicaragua was a case of US supporting yet another petty dictator that happened to be bloodthirsty.

The SCS is a sovereignty dispute. No court in this world can decide on sovereignty unless all directly related parties agreed to do so.

Sovereignty issues are often solved through use of or threat of use of military power.
 

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