Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

[shanixee]

I haven't been following the news lately. Can someone tell me when is PAF getting the J-10s. (specially J10 B).

No Pakistan is not getting J10B......

 

[Introvert]

No Pakistan is not getting J10B......

Can you provide the link for your claim.

 

[jack_zx]

" A few weeks ago, I showed the leaked pics to some PAF personal and they agreed that top brass of PAF has always known of this project and the pictures are indeed the J-20 . However, like all Pakistani acquisations, we are NOT interested in J-20 as it is. China is where the Stealth 5th generation MRCA will be bought from but that wont exactly be J-20.
The way PAF deals with and has always delath with Chinese manufacturers (JF-17s are exception) is that we let them present what they have.
Eaxmples: F-7MG --> F-7PG (Chinese couldnt come up with avionics so we bought it from theird party back when sun used to shine well in west for PAF)
For many reasons, including sales of J-10. Any plane operating with PAF is a free marketing for Chinese companies (I was so proud of it when an AVIC personal said it to me in the presence of PAF personal that the world trusts PAFs standards).
Chinese want to see J-10B in considerable number before even offering J-20. The money + interest of Chinese companies is in NOT offering Pakistan J-20 unless J-10B is flying with PAF in number.
My info on this is, Chinese clearly denied to do anything with J-10 unless the orders of F-16s are cut down. PAF did burn their boats after agreeing to it (I am glad they did. Thanks Allah for that) and sent thier team for a long tern partnership with China (Currently located in Chingdu). It was only after then that the Chinese let in PAF/PAC engineers tweak with J-10s and we saw the J-10B.
Time line for J-20 in small batch can easily be after 2016 and only then PAF might be invited to jump in.

 

[jack_zx]

Pakistan has been rumored ready to buy Chinese 36 J-10, arrival time is about 2014. According to the arrival time, the real model should be J-10B.

 

[jupiter2007]

Photoshop

 

[sancho]

Weight ratio1.024

The TWR is far lower, especially with the AL31 and is actually even below Gripen Cs and far from a comparable F16B52. For the J10 improvement of not only thrust but also weight will be important, but so far not much reliable specs seems to be available.

 

[kbd-raaf]

Does anybody here have more information on the PAC developed attitude control system for the JF-17? I can't quite remember what it's called. I'm doing a project on gyroscopes right now and want to find out more about the capabilities of such across the world.

@Oscar @Jungibaaz

 

[SQ8]

Does anybody here have more information on the PAC developed attitude control system for the JF-17? I can't quite remember what it's called. I'm doing a project on gyroscopes right now and want to find out more about the capabilities of such across the world.

@Oscar @Jungibaaz

PAKISTAN AERONAUTICAL COMPLEX KAMRA

 

[kbd-raaf]

PAKISTAN AERONAUTICAL COMPLEX KAMRA

Do the PAC file patents with the US patent office or the Pakistani equivalent?

 

[BATMAN]

Do the PAC file patents with the US patent office or the Pakistani equivalent?

Look dear... our military do not research for rape proof underwear or mosquito spray...... that it goes to US office for patent.

Why would Pakistan go to US`or any patenting body, to patent its military related development?

 

[kbd-raaf]

Look dear... our military do not research for rape proof underwear or mosquito spray...... that it goes to US office for patent.

Why would Pakistan go to US`or any patenting body, to patent its military related development?

PAC is a part of the military? I thought it was a standalone body?

Most companies like to protect their IP, I'm sure PAC does too. Anyhow I don't think there's a online Pakistani patents body, looks like it's going to be the end of my search. I've hit similar roadblocks for India too. My research is being restricted to US, British and French aerospace gyroscopes.

 

[Kompromat]

PAC is a part of the military? I thought it was a standalone body?

Most companies like to protect their IP, I'm sure PAC does too. Anyhow I don't think there's a online Pakistani patents body, looks like it's going to be the end of my search. I've hit similar roadblocks for India too. My research is being restricted to US, British and French aerospace gyroscopes.

PAC is run by PAF.

 

[BATMAN]

PAC belongs to PAF

PAC is run by PAF.

Any one will come to know, when they put PAC on google.

Why member of IT specialist nation failed?

 

[kbd-raaf]

PAC belongs to PAF


Any one will come to know, when they put PAC on google.

Why member of IT specialist nation failed?

My Googling skills are clearly not up to par. I'm going to have to work on it.

 

[HRK]

J-10 in live-fire training, all 28 rocket projectiles hit targets - People's Daily Online