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Changing Contours of the Japan-India Defense Relations



The history of India-Japan cooperation is relatively short. The defence cooperation between the two states was basically initiated by Japanese Prime Minister Yoshiro Mori. During his August 2000 visit to India, Mori and counterpart Atal Bihari Vajpayee signed a bilateral agreement entitled ‘Global partnership between Japan and India in the 21st Century’. Japan hoped to build a multifaceted cooperative relationship with India in a wide range of fields. At that time, both sides talked about institutionalizing a dialogue between the ministries of defence and foreign affairs for coordinated actions on security and foreign policy related issues, such as the security of sea-lanes, joint naval exercises to combat piracy and disaster management. This outlined the level of Indo-Japanese security engagement. In 2000 itself, the Indian Navy sent warships, tankers and submarines to Japan, along with South Korea, Indonesia and Vietnam for bilateral exercises and as gestures of goodwill.

India’s Defence Minister George Fernandes’s January 2001 Tokyo visit helped in strengthening the bilateral cooperation further, as it was the first time for both sides to hold formal talks at the defence ministerial level. In July 2001, the first meetings of the Japan-India Security Dialogue and the Japan-India Military-Military Consultation were held. In the following December, Prime Ministers Junichiro Koizumi and Vajpayee signed the India-Japan Joint Declaration, in which both sides pledged to cooperate in supporting the war on terror, countering the proliferation of WMD and their means of delivery, ensuring the safety and security of maritime traffic, and reaffirmed their intention to foster defence exchange. In April 2005, a subsequent meeting between Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and his Japanese counterpart Koizumi produced the joint statement “Japan-India Partnership in a New Asian Era: Strategic Orientation of Japan-India Global Partnership”, as well as an Action Plan called the “Eight-fold Initiative for Strengthening Japan-India Global Partnership”. The action plan gave particular emphasis on the enhancement of bilateral security dialogue and cooperation by a) further developing dialogues and exchanges, including through full utilization of existing consultation forums; b) strengthening service-to-service exchanges between defence establishments of the two countries; c) working to ensure the safety and security of maritime traffic through joint exercises against piracy and the annual Japan Coast Guard-Indian Coast Guard talks; and d) building up cooperation between the Maritime Self Defence Force (MSDF) and the Indian Navy in recognition of the importance of maritime security.

The prospect of bilateral security cooperation was enhanced further in May 2006 with the announcement of a joint statement by Indian Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee and Japanese Minister of State for Defence Fukushiro Nukaga. The new statement once again underlined the necessity of bilateral defence cooperation, even in areas like disaster relief, international terrorism, technical cooperation, and peace keeping operations. The ‘Joint Statement Towards Japan-India Strategic and Global Partnership’ issued following December 2006 meeting between Prime Ministers Manmohan Singh and Shinzo Abe, reiterated the two states’ firm commitment to strengthen defence cooperation as part of their overall endeavours towards political, defence and security cooperation.

During the meeting of both the Prime Ministers in August 2007, the Joint Statement on the Roadmap for New Dimensions to the Strategic and Global Partnership between India and Japan was adopted. This agreement confirmed that both sides shared ‘common interests in such fields as maintaining the safety and security of sea lanes in the Asia-Pacific and the Indian Ocean regions and fighting against transnational crimes, terrorism, piracy and proliferation of the WMD,” and stated that they would study the future course of their security cooperation and seek to deepen and broaden strategic dialogue through various channels, including at the foreign ministerial level of the strategic dialogue. The statement further indicated that both the states would steadily and qualitatively improve their security cooperation, including through vice ministerial level defence policy dialogue and the sharing of experience in international peace cooperation activities and counterterrorism, and promote cooperation between their Coast Guards.

Thus, India and Japan built up security cooperation efforts at the political level, forming the groundwork for dramatic advances in cooperative activities in the defence sector. Japan’s security cooperation with India made considerable headway in 2007, with the inaugural Japan-India Defence Policy Dialogue at the vice-ministerial level (April 11), the first Japan-India-US maritime exercise off the Boso Peninsula of Japan (April 16), a meeting between Indian Defence Minister A.K. Antony and his Japanese counterpart Yuriko Koike. Then during September 4 to 9, 2007, for the first time, the Japanese MSDF participated in the multilateral maritime exercise ‘Malabar 07-2’, conducted in the Bay of Bengal.

In October 2008, while bringing bilateral relationship to a new height, India and Japan inked a unique declaration on security cooperation that involves joint defence exercises, policing of the Indian Ocean and military-to-military exchanges on counter-terrorism. This agreement came close in the heels of the civilian nuclear deal that India and the US signed sparking talks of a new security order in the region with Australia joining in to complete quadrilateral framework.

In the Joint Statement issued on November 10, 2009, following Defence Minister A.K. Antony’s Tokyo visit, both the states reiterated their commitment towards strengthening their joint anti-piracy cooperation in the Gulf of Aden. They decided to extend cooperation in the fields of maritime security as well as in combating terrorism. The idea of negotiating on a Defence Action Plan (DAP) was also conceived during that time.

During Indian Defence Minister A.K. Antony’s November 2009 visit to Tokyo, both the states agreed to strengthen the relationship in areas like joint military exercises, bilateral and regional cooperation in peacekeeping, disaster relief and the ASEAN Regional Forum (ARF). Both Antony and his Japanese counterpart Toshimi Kitazawa reviewed the existing bilateral defence interactions and explored ways to enhance them further. Antony also emphasized on the necessity of conducting joint exercises between the two armed forces and exchange of students in their respective defence training institutions. During the meeting, issues like bilateral Defence Policy Dialogue, comprehensive security dialogue (CSD), military-to-military talks too were discussed. All these measures supposedly gave a ‘facelift to the existing bilateral defence cooperation’. Recently, the visits of Indian Chief of Naval staff and the Chief of Army staff visits to Japan (in August 2008 and August 2009 respectively), conducting of joint ‘Malabar 09’ exercises in the eastern side of Okinawa (April 2009), the inauguration of the India-Japan Maritime Security Dialogue (October 2009), the holding of the Second Navy-to-Navy Staff talks (October 2009) have clearly demonstrated the mutual commitment between India and Japan in strengthening their cooperation in the defence field.

Amidst a lot of apprehensions over Indo-Japan relations under the newly elected government led by opposition Democratic Party Japan (DPJ), Japanese Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama visited India from December 27-29, 2009. During his visit, both the states unveiled a joint action plan on advanced security cooperation. The goal of this plan is to advance security cooperation, based on a declaration signed in October 2008. It includes a newly established ‘2 plus 2’ dialogue framework at the senior official level of external affairs and defence ministries; an annual strategic dialogue at the foreign minister level; regular consultations among security advisers; etc. Overall, this visit seemed to be aimed at providing a political reaffirmation to the Indo-Japan strategic partnership.

Some analysts argue that Hatoyama’s eagerness to mend fence with China and downplaying bilateral security alliance with the US might adversely affect Japan’s relationship with India. There are other hawkish elements in either country who perceive this policy stance as a hedging strategy to contain China’s rise. Strong ties between Japan and China, India and Japan and India and China will be in tune with Hatoyama’s Asia oriented foreign policy and in the interest of establishing a peaceful Asian order. The East Asian Community (EAC) initiative floated by Hatoyama may be seen from this perspective. His proposal for the establishment of an EAC and his desire to work with China can actually provide both India and Japan an opportunity to strengthen their bilateral relationship on much firmer grounds rather than on the mere pretext of ‘balance of power’ equation. If Japanese Foreign Minister Katsuta Okada’s envision of opening up of the EAC membership to India along with China, South Korea, ASEAN, Australia, New Zealand and Japan itself becomes a reality, it will provide further impetus to India-Japan relations as well. In the years ahead, it will be imperative for both the states to continue pursuing cooperation regarding their common strategic interests-counterterrorism, maritime security, disaster relief, etc., in a manner that is to their mutual benefit, while taking into account India’s need to follow its own national strategies.

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I am a strong supporter of India-Japan defence block. Until now both countries were little interested in that way of thinking but I guess future scenario will bring them close. Same thing happened with countries in history. There are two main things have to be done by both sides....

India: Get rid of NAM BS.

Japan: Get rid of US.
 
India and Japan will find it hard to come together primarily because they share little in common.

Culturally, they don't identify with India. They embrace neither the Western political philosophies or South Asian moral philosophies as Indians readily do. Economically, India is a very minor partner to them and geo-politically, they do not share the same concerns or even the same common environment. History has also not been particularly too kind in bringing India and Japan together.

The only thing that Japan and India do share is a distrust of the Chinese. However, the new Hatoyama government seems to be trying to do away with that while moving away from the US politically. While India seems to be doing the exact opposite.
 
India and Japan will find it hard to come together primarily because they share little in common.

Culturally, they don't identify with India. They embrace neither the Western political philosophies or South Asian moral philosophies as Indians readily do. Economically, India is a very minor partner to them and geo-politically, they do not share the same concerns or even the same common environment. History has also not been particularly too kind in bringing India and Japan together.

The only thing that Japan and India do share is a distrust of the Chinese. However, the new Hatoyama government seems to be trying to do away with that while moving away from the US politically. While India seems to be doing the exact opposite.

You are so wrong on so many fronts -

Quote from Wiki -


Throughout history, Indo-Japanese relations have always been strong. For centuries, India and Japan have engaged in cultural exchanges, primarily as a result of Buddhism which spread from India to Japan. During the Indian Independence Movement, the Japanese Imperial Army helped Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose's Indian National Army in battles against British forces. India is the largest recipient of Japanese ODA. India–Japan have stood by each other at critical moments in their history.
Political relations between the two nations have remained warm since India's independence. Japanese companies, such as Sony, Toyota, and Honda, have manufacturing facilities in India, and with the growth of the Indian economy, India is a big market for Japanese firms. Japanese firms were, in fact, some of the first firms to invest in India. The most prominent Japanese company to have an investment in India is automobiles giant Suzuki, which is in partnership with Indian automobiles company Maruti Suzuki, the largest car manufacturer in India.
In December 2006, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's visit to Japan culminated in the signing of the "Joint Statement Towards Japan-India Strategic and Global Partnership". Japan has funded many infrastructure projects in India, most notably the Delhi Metro subway system. Indian applicants were welcomed in 2006 to the JET Program, starting with just one slot available in 2006 and 41 in 2007. Also, in the year 2007, the Japanese Self Defence Forces took part in a naval exercise in the Indian Ocean, known as Malabar 2007, which also involved the naval forces of India, Australia, Singapore and the United States. The year 2007 was also declared "India-Japan Friendship Year.
 
India and Japan will find it hard to come together primarily because they share little in common.

Culturally, they don't identify with India. They embrace neither the Western political philosophies or South Asian moral philosophies as Indians readily do. Economically, India is a very minor partner to them and geo-politically, they do not share the same concerns or even the same common environment. History has also not been particularly too kind in bringing India and Japan together.

The only thing that Japan and India do share is a distrust of the Chinese. However, the new Hatoyama government seems to be trying to do away with that while moving away from the US politically. While India seems to be doing the exact opposite.

You are 180 degree opposite the truth!

Japan was one of the few countries that supported Indian National Army led war against the British in India. It was one of the main base of Indian independence movements.

The cultural link is more wide. There are more Japanese comes for pilgrimage in India than other countries except Muslims. We have more pagodas built by the Japanese than any other country.

Japanese monks in India....



Economically and geo-politically India and Japan neglected each other for decades but that story has ended with new era of both defence and economic relations have started. Its just beginning though... I guess in coming decades India and Japan have to go for a military block due to geo-political and strategic isues.
 
I thought that topic was INDIA-JAPAn defence ties.
But looks like a CULTURAL Discussion now

Regarding defence ties - Yes we do , Our main threat & danger is same .
Our security interests will never clash with each other - In contrast with respect to PAK/CHINA/ are
i see great future for our defence ties- Infact
You guys must remember our look east policy - Focussing on ASEAN
Skorea,Singapore,Japan,Malaysia etc have been quite fruitful in last 5 years - it took us five decades to undrstand it but its never too late


Most imp aspect tying us is our G5 group i forgot name(Help plz)
Japan
Germany
Brazil
India
South Africa

All due for UN seat council and cooperating with each other .
While CHINA and US have been opposing UN expansion.
 
I thought that topic was INDIA-JAPAn defence ties.
But looks like a CULTURAL Discussion now

Regarding defence ties - Yes we do , Our main threat & danger is same .
Our security interests will never clash with each other - In contrast with respect to PAK/CHINA/ are
i see great future for our defence ties- Infact
You guys must remember our look east policy - Focussing on ASEAN
Skorea,Singapore,Japan,Malaysia etc have been quite fruitful in last 5 years - it took us five decades to undrstand it but its never too late


Most imp aspect tying us is our G5 group i forgot name(Help plz)
Japan
Germany
Brazil
India
South Africa

All due for UN seat council and cooperating with each other .
While CHINA and US have been opposing UN expansion.


Japan PM may visit China in early May - media

Japan PM may visit China in early May - media | World | Reuters

Sino-Japan relations face great development potential, opportunity: Chinese FM

Sino-Japan relations face great development potential, opportunity: Chinese FM

Asian blood brotherhood.

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India and Japan will find it hard to come together primarily because they share little in common.

Culturally, they don't identify with India. They embrace neither the Western political philosophies or South Asian moral philosophies as Indians readily do. Economically, India is a very minor partner to them and geo-politically, they do not share the same concerns or even the same common environment. History has also not been particularly too kind in bringing India and Japan together.

The only thing that Japan and India do share is a distrust of the Chinese. However, the new Hatoyama government seems to be trying to do away with that while moving away from the US politically. While India seems to be doing the exact opposite.

You are missing a lot Gideon. Lemme ask you, what does US and KSA have in common?out of a zillion things that I can try to draw a comparison map, oil and regional influence are the only two hardcore binding factors between them. Infact, they both are standing on the opposite side when it comes to the factors u just mentioned like political philosophies, moral philosophies and even social philosophies. yet, they are like husband and wife, aint it? . I bet India and Japan have more in common than a silly chinese issue.
 
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India and Japan will find it hard to come together primarily because they share little in common.

Culturally, they don't identify with India. They embrace neither the Western political philosophies or South Asian moral philosophies as Indians readily do. Economically, India is a very minor partner to them and geo-politically, they do not share the same concerns or even the same common environment. History has also not been particularly too kind in bringing India and Japan together.

The only thing that Japan and India do share is a distrust of the Chinese. However, the new Hatoyama government seems to be trying to do away with that while moving away from the US politically. While India seems to be doing the exact opposite.

Gideon, About Japanese and India, I have different thoughts though I understand where you are coming from. I have had first hand experience working with the Japanese and they are different to Indians for sure.

To quote an example, we were supplying some equipment in an un-assembled state. The general practice is to provide a sufficient number of fasteners just to ensure that a missing fastener will not delay assembly. But we found that the Japanese were not happy with the additional fasteners we had given as they were constantly wondering if they had missed fastening something. They think differently to Indians but once we work with them they are warm and friendly.

In fact the Japanese have a large amount of investment in terms of R&D plants in India and trust our ability to innovate. The people to people contact between Japan and India is working wonders to the political equations. A good relationship between two countries does not have to have the pre conditions that you have enumerated. Differences in culture and ways of life creates interest in knowing each other better and at times this is better that having similarities but fight over trivialities.
 
You are missing a lot Gideon. Lemme ask you, what does US and KSA have in common? yet they are like husband and wife, aint it? out of a zillion things that I can try to draw a comparison map, oil and regional influence are the only two hardcore binding factors between them. I bet India and Japan have more in common than a silly chinese issue.

Do indyians look like Japanese? Plus... Japanese people know how indians use racist words to describe the Asian people to which both Chinese and Japanese belong. I have many Japanese friends and I can tell that they know the condition of the Asians living in the North Eastern regions which are now under indian occupation, Manipur, Nagaland, Mizoram, Meghalay, Assam, South Tibet etc. :whistle:
 
to communist
You really hurt my feelings for my countrymen

I work in Armed forces as a doctor and i have many people from north east in my friends list,
the respect which i got from civilian population - will always be precious to me.
Even though what i did for them was just a std treatment practice.
My first posting was command hospital Jorhat Assam - There is nothing like Racial abuse in india
Some incidence here and there which happen in every country get highlighted even though they are not intentional.
And people who have not even seen the place start making decision of themselves.

And for god sake dont bring the issue of Manipur,ULFA,NAXALITES.
Whatever happened in Manipur is not isolated- With such a big country of poor people social unrest is certain
It happens in north east, Andhra , Jharkhand , Jammu everywhere.
Gov of india neglected the region for long but not any more - plz dont raise the wound again
 
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Japan PM may visit China in early May - media

Japan PM may visit China in early May - media | World | Reuters

Sino-Japan relations face great development potential, opportunity: Chinese FM

Sino-Japan relations face great development potential, opportunity: Chinese FM

Asian blood brotherhood.

923917aa1559cdb22a695ae108149501.jpg



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Bro we have this type of meet going on even between China-India.
I dont want to google it.
I just dont buy the reason that defence & security interest should be merged with business.
See apart from being threat to each other INDIA & China , similarly China & JAPAN are also top 5 economies of world . They drive 50% of ASIAN boom in currency.
They need to have a minimal agreement for business to flurish
Similar is the case with US & Brazil.
India & China
Apoio de Lula ao Irã Faz Obama Cancelar Visita ao Brasil em 2010 @ Blog Defesa BR

Hilary Back in US after Failed Brazil visit- Obama to miss Visit
Hillary back in the U.S. without being able to circumvent trade disputes with Brazil and Obama cancels visit to Lula
Claudio Dantas Sequeira
The "positive agenda" that the U.S. Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, wanted to open on his visit to Brasilia on Wednesday 3, should be forgotten in the bottom drawer. At least until the end of President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva.

Despite filing facilities, reception to Hillary at the Foreign Ministry has not been very diplomatic. Both Lula and Foreign Minister Celso Amorim preferred to use the meeting to mark positions in support of negotiations with Oirã address and, frankly, the trade disputes involving tariff barriers to ethanol and retaliation authorized by OrganizaçãoMundial Trade Organization (WTO) in the case of cotton.

Clinton, who expected a friendly contact in which convince the Brazilian government to purchase F-18 Super Hornet, went away disappointed. "The Brazilians say they lack confidence in the relationship with the U.S.," she lamented with his aides.

The worst for Secretary of State were the statements about the Amorim da Silva's support on Iran "We can not bend. We think with our own head, "cried Amorim. Lula, in turn, said that one can not "wall in Iran."

The most immediate consequence of the position of Brazil, according determine this, the suspension will be "sine die" of President Barack Obama, which should occur in the first half.

"The trip was put aside," says a diplomat who attended the meeting between Amorim and Hillary. A last attempt to approach will be made on Tuesday 9, with the arrival of U.S. Secretary of Commerce, Gary Locke.

But it should not bear fruit because Amorim said that the list of American products subject to retaliation authorized by the WTO against U.S. subsidies for cotton will be announced the day before.

The WTO authorized Brazil to retaliate up to $ 830 million annual U.S. products and the government is working on a list of up to 120 items that will suffer the import surcharge.

On the possibility of an American contrarretaliação, Amorim abused irony: "In this scare I do not die. I can not imagine that the U.S., which promoted the creation of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade, WTO, will use an instrument outside of international rules, "he said. Hillary has shown good will: "We have time to try to resolve this peacefully and productively."

According to the professor of economics at the Trevisan Business School, Alcides Milk, "the businessmen of both countries have most to gain from the expansion of the staff than with the sanctions that tend to feed a negative cycle." He points out that decision favorable to the WTO may be a "bargaining chip" in other negotiations.

Hence the U.S. effort in a positive agenda that helps to open the market for U.S. exports. With the recent approval of the Board of an agreement to exchange tax information are expected to progress negotiations on the end of double taxation. But none of this will advance while the diplomatic wrangling continues over the Iranian nuclear issue.

Our Review:

Lula's support to Iran Cancel Obama Makes Visit to Brazil in 2010

For the first time in recent history, Brazil can distance themselves from the addiction that kept the United States. This should not only be a policy of the Lula government, but a policy of the Brazilian state.

No matter if the attitude of administration is for or against Iran, but it is certainly against the interests of American domination of the Middle East, initiated by Iraq, and then extended to Afghanistan, through other subjects.

Moreover, in the case of the cotton dispute, Brazil, today announced an unprecedented list of American products to be overcharged with an increase in import tariff, which is a retaliation for and legally authorized by the WTO.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton took too long to decide to visit Brazil. Arrived late and returned early. If she expected a friendly contact, was disappointed to hear the Brazilians who lack confidence in the relationship with the U.S..

But what she wanted? Wonder: who's to blame? Well, read this link and reflect quite calm about how and where we came painfully in the process of geopolitical independence.

Brazil is seeking its place in the world and now freed from the shackles and whip of the U.S..


WTO , Kyoto etc etc are some of things keeping us all wired
 
Do indyians look like Japanese? Plus... Japanese people know how indians use racist words to describe the Asian people to which both Chinese and Japanese belong. I have many Japanese friends and I can tell that they know the condition of the Asians living in the North Eastern regions which are now under indian occupation, Manipur, Nagaland, Mizoram, Meghalay, Assam, South Tibet etc. :whistle:

Dude, If u got problem with Indians regarding our NorthEastern states, then talk to us face to face; no need to drag the Japanese between us. Now, just like u do, may be more than u do, I too have Japanese, phillipines, Thai and Vietnamese friends here in US, and I dont see them or they dont see me as the way u mentioned. So dont even think about manipulate their views about Indians by some propaganda.

Ohh btw, its "Indians" NOT "Indyians"; guess who is describing the asian people in a wrong way.:rolleyes:
 
A good relationship between two countries does not have to have the pre conditions that you have enumerated. Differences in culture and ways of life creates interest in knowing each other better and at times this is better that having similarities but fight over trivialities.

True. Well said. In fact, that has been constant motto in Indian foreign policy. But this language of respect is misjudged as weakness by many. I don't blame them.

There is very old Japanese proverb: Those who are self-confident and brave show respect to others. Cowards can't show respect as they are simply too-scared to share with others and they simply try to create misunderstandings between others, as they see every friendship as threat to them. So, beware of such hate-spreading types.

India and Japan has more in common due to shared history.
 
Dude, If u got problem with Indians regarding our NorthEastern states, then talk to us face to face; no need to drag the Japanese between us. Now, just like u do, may be more than u do, I too have Japanese, phillipines, Thai and Vietnamese friends here in US, and I dont see them or they dont see me as the way u mentioned. So dont even think about manipulate their views about Indians by some propaganda.

Ohh btw, its "Indians" NOT "Indyians"; guess who is describing the asian people in a wrong way.:rolleyes:


Thanks mate - This guy[communist] just made me in tears with his post. how can he say abt those things when he hasnt senn the place or worked there.
 

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