Chairman PTI Imran Khan asks 6 Simple Questions to the Establishment

[Maula Jatt]

Well Imran Khan should not be opening the East Pakistan pandora box.

@SaadH Yes, the census done in Karachi is dubious at best. A more accurate census would mean more electoral seats for Karachi and alot of feathers will be ruffled as a result. Especially for the hegemony of Punjab and establishment.

Not delving into provincialism but it’s the truth.

Punjabis are 38% of Pakistan, it'll always be an important part of Pakistan and by 2030, 40 will go down further in #s, unless you suppress it like it happened in the late 40s and 50s, which Ayub Khan changed - it'll be that way

But how exactly zardari a bonofied Sindhi nationalists son, help hegammony of Punjab, help me understand the logic, his whole shtick is support me or I'll release Sindhi nationalists, I am the man that keeps it at bay
Karachi or Sindh has very little to do with Punjab , even if karachi became the majority of Sindh - what exactly would change for punjab - nothing really, politically, economically, socially nothing would change

If census is not correct than it's probably to appease the Sindhi people who feel Thier land is being taken over - that's the only reason I can think of , that they don't want insurgency in Sindh

Other than that, you logically explain what would change for us if karachi becomes majority of Sindh- when Pakistan was booming including Karachi majority of richest 22 famlies were Punjabis but it didn't hinder growth of anyone in Pakistan

 

[ziaulislam]

Army votes for zardari or the people?

Zardari

Punjabis are 38% of Pakistan, it'll always be an important part of Pakistan and by 2030, 40 will go down further in #s, unless you suppress it like it happened in the late 40s and 50s, which Ayub Khan changed - it'll be that way

But how exactly zardari a bonofied Sindhi nationalists son, help hegammony of Punjab, help me understand the logic, his whole shtick is support me or I'll release Sindhi nationalists, I am the man that keeps it at bay
Karachi or Sindh has very little to do with Punjab , even if karachi became the majority of Sindh - what exactly would change for punjab - nothing really, politically, economically, socially nothing would change

If census is not correct than it's probably to appease the Sindhi people who feel Thier land is being taken over - that's the only reason I can think of , that they don't want insurgency in Sindh

Other than that, you logically explain what would change for us if karachi becomes majority of Sindh

It's 52% not 38%

 

[Maula Jatt]

Zardari


It's 52% not 38%

Going by Pakistans census , Saraikis are culturally thier own thing and influenced a by western pakistan and Sindh more than us, with different clans, and not exactly like north, Central people although linguistically similar to rest of Punjab but culturally different

 

[Olympus81]

Accurate census of Sindh.

Karachi will get more electoral seats within Sindh.

Sindh would get more electoral seats within the federal government.

Also impact division of revenue (NFC award).

The best option is to divide Pakistan into 10-15 provinces.

 

[PakFactor]

IK shouldn't have stirred Bangladesh issue. It is far more complex than as he is presenting. Other questions are valid. Perhaps many more would come with time.

It's a legitimate issue.
The commission report after the 1971 War shows the military in a much worse light than the redacted excerpt version released by Mushraff. The blunders they are making now were made at that time.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Accurate census of Sindh.

Karachi will get more electoral seats within Sindh.

Sindh would get more electoral seats within the federal government.

Also impact division of revenue (NFC award).

The best option is to divide Pakistan into 10-15 provinces.

So you're saying NFC and seats is the issue - 5 more seats max, yeah won't fundamentally change everything in our national politics atleast and it keeps happening too - NA seats have been changing after every few years, NFC I guess but not really...

I have said of 8-9 provinces and electrol system where each province gets same voting power, so I don't disagree but no one's willing to do it

 

[ziaulislam]

So you're saying NFC and seats is the issue - 5 more seats max, yeah won't fundamentally change everything in our national politics atleast and it keeps happening too - NA seats have been changing after every few years, NFC I guess but not really...

I have said of 8-9 provinces and electrol system where each province gets same voting power, so I don't disagree but no one's willing to do it

It will change zardari ability to keep Sindh Karachi in check which is gate way for money laundering and business of army

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

He is going at collision course with the powerful establishment. It will not end up good for everyone. More than him, its establishment who has to be blamed. He waited for 6 months to have reconciliation with them but Bajwa and company seemed to have made up their minds, not to see him in power even though he is sweeping every bi elections. Its more an ego problem for them now. Gen. Asim Muneer, who is set to become new COAS has same anti IK mentality as well. IK perfectly knows combination of Asim Muneer and Naveed Anjum doesn't want to see PTI into power back again.

 

[Goritoes]

IK ko Sawaal kerne ka koi HAQ nai, Woh Fajr ki Namaz nai pardta (Army walo ki Tarah).

 

[ziaulislam]

He is going at collision course with the powerful establishment. It will not end up good for everyone. More than him, its establishment who has to be blamed. He waited for 6 months to have reconciliation with them but Bajwa and company seemed to have made up their minds, not to see him in power even though he is sweeping every bi elections. Its more an ego problem for them now. Gen. Asim Muneer, who is set to become new COAS has same anti IK mentality as well. IK perfectly knows combination of Asim Muneer and Naveed Anjum doesn't want to see PTI into power back again.

This should just impose partial and stop this pretend game.

We can save a lot of money via this approach.


If there is mutiny in the army it will forever destroy the army command.

But point is respect for army is already for ever destroyed no amount of milinaghmay will be able to bring that respect..


Naveed anjum ISI chief has achieved what 5 generations of RAW Couldn't do. He needs to get vir chakra award.

 

[truthseeker2010]

This should just impose partial and stop this pretend game.

We can save a lot of money via this approach.


If there is mutiny in the army it will forever destroy the army command.

But point is respect for army is already for ever destroyed no amount of milinaghmay will be able to bring that respect..


Naveed anjum ISI chief has achieved what 5 generations of RAW Couldn't do. He needs to get vir chakra award.

Some reasons they might not go with martial law. First they have become too controversial by press conferences. Second the anti army sentiments is at all time high. Third the kitty is too low and next year for economy will be too hard for anyone who comes to power. And lastly US has not given nod to GHQ.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Go by the constitution and leash in the deviant kid

 

[villageidiot]

IK shouldn't have stirred Bangladesh issue. It is far more complex than as he is presenting. Other questions are valid. Perhaps many more would come with time.

Yeah, he should steer clear of bangladesh references and praising azaad indian foreign policy for the time being. People are emotional and the dacoits and handlers are willing to stoop to any level.

I, for one, am also concerned about some insaafians newfound love for dissidents like manzoor pashteen just because their views on the establishment resonate with ours. We should not forget that those are NOT all of their views. We seem to be forgetting a pretty significant chunk of their views such as the fact that we are daalkhor punjabis and the Pakistan is heera mandi and that they claim half our country should break off and merge into afghan heaven.

 

[newb3e]

Army votes for zardari or the people?

yes army thappa machine /rts votes for zardari not the people!

 

[villageidiot]

unless you suppress it like it happened in the late 40s and 50s, which Ayub Khan changed

what's that?

Accurate census of Sindh.

Karachi will get more electoral seats within Sindh.

Sindh would get more electoral seats within the federal government.

Also impact division of revenue (NFC award).

The best option is to divide Pakistan into 10-15 provinces.

sir, my single point of contention with the idea of division of provinces is that it will inevitably be done along ethnic lines. While I am no longer a fan of religious identity either, at least it's based on an idealogy and a thought process, rather than the dumb idea that one's identity is the herd belongs to, by virtue of being born into the herd.

So, my question is, Is there a better model, based more on better administration than ethnic and linguistic cohesion?

@Maula Jatt , your comments, plz.