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Caste Discrimination Rampant Among Silicon Valley Indian-Americans

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Over two-thirds of low caste Indian-Americans are discriminated against by upper caste Indian-Americans in Silicon Valley, according to a report by Equality Labs, an organization of Dalits in America. Dalits also report hearing derogatory comments about Muslim job applicants at tech companies. These revelations have recently surfaced in a California state lawsuit against Silicon Valley tech giant Cisco Systems.


Religious Discrimination:

Both caste and religious discrimination are rampant among Indian-Americans in Silicon Valley. Back in 2009, there was a religious discrimination lawsuit filed against Vigai, a South Indian restaurant in Silicon Valley. In the lawsuit filed in Santa Clara County Superior Court, Abdul Rahuman, 44, and Nowsath Malik Shaw, 39, both of San Jose, alleged they were harassed for being Muslim by Vaigai's two owners, a manager and a top chef — a violation of the Fair Employment and Housing Act, according to a report in the San Jose Mercury News.

According to the complaint, restaurant personnel regularly used ethnic slurs such as "Thulakkan," a pejorative term for Muslims in Sri Lankan Tamil dialect, to harass the two Muslim cooks. Also according to the complaint, restaurant staff were encouraged to call the plaintiffs by names such as "Rajan" or "Nagraj" under the pretext of not wanting to upset customers who might stop patronizing the restaurant if they heard the men referred to by their Muslim names.

Modi in Silicon Valley

The complaint also stated that the plaintiffs were forced to participate in a religious ceremony despite telling the owners it was against their Islamic beliefs. The complaint alleged that the restaurant owners insisted on their participation and proceeded to smear a powder on their foreheads, making the religious marking known as a "tilak."

Upper Caste Silicon Valley

"Dominant castes who pride themselves as being only of merit have just converted their caste capital into positions of power throughout the Silicon Valley," says Thenmozhi Soundarajan of Equality Labs. Vast majority of Indian-Americans in Silicon Valley support India's Islamophobic Prime MInister Narendra Modi. Modi held a huge rally at a large venue in Silicon Valley where he received a rousing welcome in 2015.

Caste vs Race in America:

Contrary to The International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (ICERD) that includes discrimination based on caste, most Indian-Americans argue that race is not caste . Dating back to 1969, the ICERD convention has been ratified by 173 countries, including India. California’s lawsuit reinforces that caste is race. It will now make it harder for companies to ignore caste discrimination. While the US has no specific law against the Indian caste system, the California Department of Fair Employment and Housing has filed the lawsuit against Cisco using a section of America’s historic Civil Rights Act which bars race-based discrimination. Here is an excerpt of an article published in TheWire.in on the lawsuit recently:

"In October 2016, two colleagues informed John Doe, a principal engineer at Cisco, that his supervisor, Sundar Iyer, had told them that he (Doe) was from the “Scheduled Castes” and had made it to the Indian Institute of Technology via affirmative action. “Iyer was aware of Doe’s caste because they attended IIT at the same time,” said the case. The suit says that, when confronted by Doe, Iyer denied having disclosed his caste. In November 2016, Doe contacted Cisco’s HR over the matter. Within a week of doing so, Iyer reportedly informed Doe he was taking away Doe’s role as lead on two technologies. Iyer also removed team members from a third technology that Doe was working on and reduced his role to that of an independent contributor and he was isolated from his colleagues, the lawsuit says. In December 2016, Doe filed a written complaint with HR on the matter."

Summary:

Caste discrimination is rampant among Indian-Americans and NRIs (Non-resident Indians) in Silicon Valley with 67% of low caste Indians reporting being victims of such discrimination in workplace. Muslims also face employment discrimination in some of the workplaces dominated by Indian managers. California state has filed a lawsuit against Silicon Valley tech giant Cisco Systems alleging caste discrimination.

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Many indians get a leg up automatically by virtue of caste, all over the world. In a way, it is akin to the "boys club" recruitment policy whispered about in the h.r. offices of many professional institutions. The problem for brahminists is that it is stark raving obvious that it happens and when it happens.
 
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A few years ago we had a project with Indian developers. We sent our requirements via email to the team lead and expected results two weeks later. After two weeks no requirement was implemented and we had to explain it again and again. After talking directly with a developer we found out the high caste team lead didn’t forward emails to his low caste team members. Because he didn’t want to speak with them. And this was an international company with many big customers! Fortunately this guy was immediately fired after that!

The caste system is real and widespread no need to sugarcoat the situation dear Indians!
 
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A few years ago we had a project with Indian developers. We sent our requirements via email to the team lead and expected results two weeks later. After two weeks no requirement was implemented and we had to explain it again and again. After talking directly with a developer we found out the high caste team lead didn’t forward emails to his low caste team members. Because he didn’t want to speak with them. And this was an international company with many big customers! Fortunately this guy was immediately fired after that!

The caste system is real and widespread no need to sugarcoat the situation dear Indians!
yeah but they'll have you believe it doesn't exist... my acquaintance seem to believe this issue isn;t prevelant and would ignore the evidence that says otherwise
 
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Is caste system this widespread? The only Indians I’ve known closely had their parents actually come from East Africa so they are not quite Indian so I don’t know how authentic Indians view caste system. IMO this sounds like an archaic *** backward system that belongs in dark ages. It’s unbelievable when I hear middle class affluent Indians practicing it.
 
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There is some form of discrimination everywhere and in many forms. Worked a little in punjab and i could clearly see how graeen was always preferred over a Pathan. Within that they would like the same caste guy. In UK ive witnessed how whites were preferred. It seems humans are all generally biased to some degrees.
Having said that, indian caste system is the worst. It should be declared human rights violation by UN. Here is why Islam clearly negates any form or shape of superiority of one over the other in any form, the only one better is the one who is more pious and that too will only be judged by Allah. One of the main reason of success of Islam and muslims was the message of equality for all and brothers. As iqbal said
Ek hi saf mein khare ho gaye Mahmood-o-Ayaz
Na koi banda raha aur na koi banda-nawaz
 
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Is caste system this widespread? The only Indians I’ve known closely had their parents actually come from East Africa so they are not quite Indian so I don’t know how authentic Indians view caste system. IMO this sounds like an archaic *** backward system that belongs in dark ages. It’s unbelievable when I hear middle class affluent Indians practicing it.
Do lankans also have this high caste v untouchable thing?
 
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Do lankans also have this high caste v untouchable thing?
Nope. Never heard but saw in marriage advertisements which was thing when i was a kid but there every has the same caste - “farmer” so i never took it seriously. Concepts like untouchable are totally out of the world in sri lanka.
 
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Indians being indians even in foreign countries. No shocker that they are bunch of racist turds.
 
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Nope. Never heard but saw in marriage advertisements which was thing when i was a kid but there every has the same caste - “farmer” so i never took it seriously. Concepts like untouchable are totally out of the world in sri lanka.
Probably due to buddhism.
 
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Is caste system this widespread? The only Indians I’ve known closely had their parents actually come from East Africa so they are not quite Indian so I don’t know how authentic Indians view caste system. IMO this sounds like an archaic *** backward system that belongs in dark ages. It’s unbelievable when I hear middle class affluent Indians practicing it.
Caste system, dowry system and even arranged marriage are very much alive in Malaysia. It's not obvious but you cannot hide it.

An Indian engineer I know always drives an old car to work for years. Just before he got married he showed me his new Honda Civic dual cam. Even let me test drive it. He denied it was the dowry when I asked.
An Indian manager got a bungalow house just before he married. It was an open secret.
I have been to a lower caste Indian marriage. A worker from my father's business. I went to represent my father.
I could see the anguish in the bride eyes and body language. The groom did not show any emotion. Like he was entitled.
I knew another Indian manager. His wife openly says theirs was an arranged marriage but it turn out to be a good marriage. They had 3 daughters but he moved overseas so I guess he save a bunch on dowries. :-)
 
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Caste system, dowry system and even arranged marriage are very much alive in Malaysia. It's not obvious but you cannot hide it.

An Indian engineer I know always drives an old car to work for years. Just before he got married he showed me his new Honda Civic dual cam. Even let me test drive it. He denied it was the dowry when I asked.
An Indian manager got a bungalow house just before he married. It was an open secret.
I have been to a lower caste Indian marriage. A worker from my father's business. I went to represent my father.
I could see the anguish in the bride eyes and body language. The groom did not show any emotion. Like he was entitled.
I knew another Indian manager. His wife openly says theirs was an arranged marriage but it turn out to be a good marriage. They had 3 daughters but he moved overseas so I guess he save a bunch on dowries. :-)
wow, I've never come across any experience with castes so it's hard to imagine for me, especially people practicing this outside India. The only discrimination I've known come from ethnicity and socioeconomic position. The problem with caste system as with ethnicity is that these are based on lineage. Once you are born into it, you have no choice other than to live with it. That's why I find it particularly disgusting.
 
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