Can Saudi Arabia develop a major domestic arms industry by 2030?

[merzifonlu]

so turkey will not buy anything from other countries?

Turkey's main goal is not to produce all the weapons it needs domestically. Turkey's main goal is to have the means to
ability of produce domestically when necessary. In addition, it is to make money by selling in areas where it can compete.

After reaching this goal, it also imports weapons or makes joint production depending on foreign relations. Among the countries that Turkey can joint prodiction or import weapons from is Israel. It has also imported weapons from Israel in the past.

It all depends on the current foreign policy environment.

 

[MMM-E]

so turkey will not buy anything from other countries?

is Russia buying anything from other countries ? almost nothing


after 2030 Turkey will not buy anything from other countries .. ( except some components )
but American-German-Russian Weapons will remain in service

-- F-16 Fighter Jet
-- Sikorsky Blackhawk and Seahawk Helicopters
-- CH-47F Chinook Helicopter
-- Boeing E7-T AEWC
-- Airbus A400M strategic transport Helicopter
-- MEKO-200 class Frigate
-- Type-214 class Submarine
-- S400 Air Defense System



Turkey produce almost all weapons for Turkish Army .. ( no need to buy anything from other countries after 2030 )

-- ALTAY Tank
-- T-155 STORM Howitzer
-- YAVUZ truck mounted HOWITZER
-- TRG-122 guided MLRS
-- TRG-300 guided MLRS
-- TRLG-230 guided MLRS
-- BORA Ballistic Missile Family
-- ATMACA-K land based Cruise Missile
-- GEZGIN land based strategic Cruise Missile
-- APCs , AFVs , IFVs
-- MPT55 and MPT76 Rifles
-- JNG-90 Sniper Rifle
-- MFY-71 fully automatic Machine Gun
-- CIRIT laser guided Rocket for Attack Helicopters
-- MIZRAK-U Anti Tank Missile for Attack Helicopters
-- OMTAS , MIZRAK , KARAOK anti-Tank Missiles
-- SUNGUR MANPADS
-- FNSS SAMUR Amphibious Assault Bridge
-- KAPLAN Explosive Ordnance Disposal Robot
-- TAMKAR Mine Clearing System
-- High enery LASER Weapons and hypersonic Electromagnetic Rail Guns
-- KORKUT 35mm SPAAG ( Airbust ammunition )
-- HISAR-A low altitude Air Defense Missile
-- 100 km Aselsan STR Weapon Locating Long Range Radar
-- 120 km KALKAN II Air search Radar

-- Bayraktar TB-2 UCAV
-- KARGI anti-radiation Drone
-- T-129 , T-629 and T-929 Attack Helicopters
-- T-625 and T-925 Utility Helicopters




as well as Turkey will produce almost all weapons for the Turkish Navy until 2030 .... ( no need to buy anything from other countries after 2030 )


-- ADA class stealth Corvette
-- ISTIF class stealth Frigate
-- TF-2000 class Destroyer
-- New type FAC
-- TUZLA class Patrol Boat
-- NB57 Autonomous and herd capable armed unmanned surface warfare vehicle
-- RD09 Autonomous and swarm-capable unmanned anti-submarine warfare vehicle
-- MILDEN class AIP Submarine
-- ALEMDAR class Submarine Rescue Mother Ship (MOSHIP)
-- Electronic Warfare Ship
-- LCT , LST , LHD
-- Super Tanker
-- Aircraft Carrier

-- Havelsan Network Enabled Data Integrated (GENESIS ADVENT) Combat Management System
-- Aselsan TAKS Fire Control System
-- Aselsan MAR-D 3B AESA Radar
-- Aselsan AKR-D X and Ka-Band fire control Radars
-- 66 km Aselsan ALPER Naval LPI Radar
-- 89 km Aselsan SERDAR Coastal Surveillance LPI Radar
-- 450km CAFRAD GaN based AESA Naval Radar
-- HIZIR Torpedo Countermeasure System for Surface Ships
-- HIZIR-LFAS Low Frequency Towed Active Sonar
-- ZOKA Acoustic Torpedo Countermeasure Decoy
-- ZARGANA Submarine Torpedo Counter Measure System
-- TORK Hard-Kill Torpedo Countermeasure System
-- ARES2SC Submarine Radar ESM System
-- ARES-2N Frigate Electronic Warfare System
-- SeaEye-AHTAPOT EO Reconnaisance and Survellience System
-- Aselsan PIRI Panoramic Infrared Imaging System
-- KATS Infrared Search and Track system
-- Aselsan FERSAH Carina Mounted Sonar System

-- ATMACA anti-ship Missile
-- MRASHM anti-ship Missile
-- GEZGIN strategic naval Cruise Missile
-- SAPAN Rolling Airframe Missile
-- G-40 Air Defense Missile
-- ORKA lightweight Torpedo
-- AKYA heavyweight Torpedo
-- 76 mm naval Gun
-- GOKDENIZ 35mm CIWS for Naval Platforms
-- STOP 25mm Remote Controlled Stabilized Cannon System
-- MDAS and EDAS Verticle Launch Systems



Turkey will produce almost all weapons for the Turkish Airforce until 2030 .... ( no need to buy anything from other countries after 2030 )

-- TFX 5th gen Fighter Jet
-- MIUS unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
-- AKSUNGUR and AKINCI UCAVs
-- ANKA-S UCAV
-- HURKUS training and light attack Aircraft
-- HURJET nex gen Jet for training and CAS mission

-- KORAL and REDET Radar Electronic Warfare System
-- SANCAK New Generation Combat Electronic Attack System
-- HAVASOJ airborne stand off Jammer
-- GaN based Airborne AESA Radar
-- 600 and 1.500 km km EIRS early warning AESA Radars
-- MEHPOD and EHPOD Jamming Pods
-- ASELPOD Targeting Pod
-- SPEWSII Self protection Electronic Warfare System
-- Satellites

-- SOM air launched Cruise Missile
-- MRASHM anti-ship Missile
-- AKBABA anti-radiation Missile
-- KUZGUN joint strike Missile
-- BOZDOGAN WVR air to air Missile
-- GOKDOGAN BVR air to air Missile
-- GOKHAN ramjet engined long range air to air missile
-- NEB Penetrator Bomb
-- 12 km LGK Laser guided Bomb
-- 28 km HGK and TEBER INS/GPS guided Smart Bombs
-- 110 km KGK guided Smart Bomb
-- 110 km Small Diameter Bomb
-- 150 km KGK-LR IIR guided glide Bomb

-- Networked medium/ long range air defense system .... similar to NASAMS
-- HISAR-O medium altitude Air Defense System
-- SIPER high altitude Air Defense System
-- GUMS Ballistic Missile Defense System



also Engines

-- PD-170 and PD-222 turboprob Engines for UCAVs
-- TJ-300 and KTJ-3200 turbojet Engines for Cruise Missiles
-- RAMJET and SCRAMJET for supersonic - hypersonic Missiles
-- TS-1400 and TS-3000 turboshaft Engines for Helicopters
-- TR-MOTOR and TF-6000 turbofan Engines for Fighter Jets
-- BMC 450-600 hp Engines for AFVs-IFVs
-- BMC UTKU 1000hp Engine for Howitzers
-- BMC BATU 1500hpEngine for Tanks
-- Engines up to 5.000 hp for Naval Platforms
-- Hybrid Rocket Engine and liquid-propellant Rocket Engine technologies






btw if CHP-HDP-IP-FETO win 2023 election
then they will stop national military projects and they will make Turkiye as a slave to The US again

 

[dani191]

is Russia buying anything from other countries ? almost nothing


after 2030 Turkey will not buy anything from other countries .. ( except some components )
but American-German-Russian Weapons will remain in service

-- F-16 Fighter Jet
-- Sikorsky Blackhawk and Seahawk Helicopters
-- CH-47F Chinook Helicopter
-- Boeing E7-T AEWC
-- Airbus A400M strategic transport Helicopter
-- MEKO-200 class Frigate
-- Type-214 class Submarine
-- S400 Air Defense System



Turkey produce almost all weapons for Turkish Army .. ( no need to buy anything from other countries after 2030 )

-- ALTAY Tank
-- T-155 STORM Howitzer
-- YAVUZ truck mounted HOWITZER
-- TRG-122 guided MLRS
-- TRG-300 guided MLRS
-- TRLG-230 guided MLRS
-- BORA Ballistic Missile Family
-- ATMACA-K land based Cruise Missile
-- GEZGIN land based strategic Cruise Missile
-- APCs , AFVs , IFVs
-- MPT55 and MPT76 Rifles
-- JNG-90 Sniper Rifle
-- MFY-71 fully automatic Machine Gun
-- CIRIT laser guided Rocket for Attack Helicopters
-- MIZRAK-U Anti Tank Missile for Attack Helicopters
-- OMTAS , MIZRAK , KARAOK anti-Tank Missiles
-- SUNGUR MANPADS
-- FNSS SAMUR Amphibious Assault Bridge
-- KAPLAN Explosive Ordnance Disposal Robot
-- TAMKAR Mine Clearing System
-- High enery LASER Weapons and hypersonic Electromagnetic Rail Guns
-- KORKUT 35mm SPAAG ( Airbust ammunition )
-- HISAR-A low altitude Air Defense Missile
-- 100 km Aselsan STR Weapon Locating Long Range Radar
-- 120 km KALKAN II Air search Radar

-- Bayraktar TB-2 UCAV
-- KARGI anti-radiation Drone
-- T-129 , T-629 and T-929 Attack Helicopters
-- T-625 and T-925 Utility Helicopters




as well as Turkey will produce almost all weapons for the Turkish Navy until 2030 .... ( no need to buy anything from other countries after 2030 )


-- ADA class stealth Corvette
-- ISTIF class stealth Frigate
-- TF-2000 class Destroyer
-- New type FAC
-- TUZLA class Patrol Boat
-- NB57 Autonomous and herd capable armed unmanned surface warfare vehicle
-- RD09 Autonomous and swarm-capable unmanned anti-submarine warfare vehicle
-- MILDEN class AIP Submarine
-- ALEMDAR class Submarine Rescue Mother Ship (MOSHIP)
-- Electronic Warfare Ship
-- LCT , LST , LHD
-- Super Tanker
-- Aircraft Carrier

-- Havelsan Network Enabled Data Integrated (GENESIS ADVENT) Combat Management System
-- Aselsan TAKS Fire Control System
-- Aselsan MAR-D 3B AESA Radar
-- Aselsan AKR-D X and Ka-Band fire control Radars
-- 66 km Aselsan ALPER Naval LPI Radar
-- 89 km Aselsan SERDAR Coastal Surveillance LPI Radar
-- 450km CAFRAD GaN based AESA Naval Radar
-- HIZIR Torpedo Countermeasure System for Surface Ships
-- HIZIR-LFAS Low Frequency Towed Active Sonar
-- ZOKA Acoustic Torpedo Countermeasure Decoy
-- ZARGANA Submarine Torpedo Counter Measure System
-- TORK Hard-Kill Torpedo Countermeasure System
-- ARES2SC Submarine Radar ESM System
-- ARES-2N Frigate Electronic Warfare System
-- SeaEye-AHTAPOT EO Reconnaisance and Survellience System
-- Aselsan PIRI Panoramic Infrared Imaging System
-- KATS Infrared Search and Track system
-- Aselsan FERSAH Carina Mounted Sonar System

-- ATMACA anti-ship Missile
-- MRASHM anti-ship Missile
-- GEZGIN strategic naval Cruise Missile
-- SAPAN Rolling Airframe Missile
-- G-40 Air Defense Missile
-- ORKA lightweight Torpedo
-- AKYA heavyweight Torpedo
-- 76 mm naval Gun
-- GOKDENIZ 35mm CIWS for Naval Platforms
-- STOP 25mm Remote Controlled Stabilized Cannon System
-- MDAS and EDAS Verticle Launch Systems



Turkey will produce almost all weapons for the Turkish Airforce until 2030 .... ( no need to buy anything from other countries after 2030 )

-- TFX 5th gen Fighter Jet
-- MIUS unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
-- AKSUNGUR and AKINCI UCAVs
-- ANKA-S UCAV
-- HURKUS training and light attack Aircraft
-- HURJET nex gen Jet for training and CAS mission

-- KORAL and REDET Radar Electronic Warfare System
-- SANCAK New Generation Combat Electronic Attack System
-- HAVASOJ airborne stand off Jammer
-- GaN based Airborne AESA Radar
-- 600 and 1.500 km km EIRS early warning AESA Radars
-- MEHPOD and EHPOD Jamming Pods
-- ASELPOD Targeting Pod
-- SPEWSII Self protection Electronic Warfare System
-- Satellites

-- SOM air launched Cruise Missile
-- MRASHM anti-ship Missile
-- AKBABA anti-radiation Missile
-- KUZGUN joint strike Missile
-- BOZDOGAN WVR air to air Missile
-- GOKDOGAN BVR air to air Missile
-- GOKHAN ramjet engined long range air to air missile
-- NEB Penetrator Bomb
-- 12 km LGK Laser guided Bomb
-- 28 km HGK and TEBER INS/GPS guided Smart Bombs
-- 110 km KGK guided Smart Bomb
-- 110 km Small Diameter Bomb
-- 150 km KGK-LR IIR guided glide Bomb

-- Networked medium/ long range air defense system .... similar to NASAMS
-- HISAR-O medium altitude Air Defense System
-- SIPER high altitude Air Defense System
-- GUMS Ballistic Missile Defense System



also Engines

-- PD-170 and PD-222 turboprob Engines for UCAVs
-- TJ-300 and KTJ-3200 turbojet Engines for Cruise Missiles
-- RAMJET and SCRAMJET for supersonic - hypersonic Missiles
-- TS-1400 and TS-3000 turboshaft Engines for Helicopters
-- TR-MOTOR and TF-6000 turbofan Engines for Fighter Jets
-- BMC 450-600 hp Engines for AFVs-IFVs
-- BMC UTKU 1000hp Engine for Howitzers
-- BMC BATU 1500hpEngine for Tanks
-- Engines up to 5.000 hp for Naval Platforms
-- Hybrid Rocket Engine and liquid-propellant Rocket Engine technologies






btw if CHP-HDP-IP-FETO win 2023 election
then they will stop national military projects and they will make Turkiye as a slave to The US again

no one sell russia and china russia isnt good at most of the thing only in hypersonic missles

 

[MMM-E]

no one sell russia and china russia isnt good at most of the thing only in hypersonic missles

Russia is major military power in the world to defend itself from any country including USA
Russia doesnt need weapons from other countries

Russia has its own Ballistic Missiles , long range Cruise Missiles , Fighter Jets , Strategic Bombers , supersonic-hypersonic Missiles , Air Defense Systems , Destroyers , Nuclear Submarines , etc to harm enemies

even Russian Army has enough power to crush Europe combined ( Tanks,Howitzers, MLRS, Cruise Missiles and Tactic Ballistic Missiles , ) Europe is so weak


Russians have great technology knowledge to develop high quality weapons
but Problem is money ... every year give $700 billion to Russia and see what will happen
USA is so lucky with huge economic power ( $700 billion - defense budget )


Turkey also has its own agenda to develop national defense Industry until 2030
and Turkish weapons have high quality NATO standard

 

[HalfMoon]

Need culture change, need merit in millitary

Arabs and Hindus are slaves of the west. They will never be able to develop anything.

Only Turkiye, Pakistan and Iran are capable of developing products as these countries are independent Islamic nations.

 

[Deltadart]

Saudis have a better chance of pulling a rabbit from under their thobe /kandurah than ever producing any arms.

 

[Titanium100]

Saudis have a better chance of pulling a rabbit from under their thobe /kandurah than ever producing any arms.

This is local productions and there is many more.. this AV is highly advanced and durable in desert terrain

AL DAHNA

Small/Medium size 4×4 vehicle providing high modularity and various protection levels, depending on the mission definition. The overall designis suitable for various roles and is highly flexible with respect to mission requirements. GVW of 9 tons makes it a very suitable and universal vehicle for almost all required roles in the current asymmetric warefare. Strong 160kw, 4-cylinder militarized engine, providing ample torque of 810Nm, coupled with Allison automatic transmission, lockable differentials driveline, independent suspension and durable military specs tires which provide great mobility of this vehicle over various terrains. Featuring CTIS in its basic version, this vehicle is a prerequisite for the successful mission completion.

The basic vehicle comes in ballistic protection of level 1 as per STANG 4569, upgradeable to Level 1 as per STANG 4569, upgradeable to Level 2, or FB 7 of CEN 1522, with corresponding floor protection against small antipersonnel grenades. In addition, the light version of this vehicle (without the armored protection) is also available for liaison role within the secure areas. The vehicles design reflects harsh climatic conditions on the Arabian peninsula and provides the space for high level of the customization.

Saqr1
Saqr2
Saqr3
Saqr4

Belongs to one drone family of 4

Tuwaiq 2

Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicle
TUWAIQ 2 is an armored Saudi vehicle manufactured by the AVF, constructed on a V – Shape hull to provide crew protection against landmines, explosives and potential ballistic threats. The vehicle is mounted on a military chassis from Mercedes- Benz (Unimog 5000) which provides high performance, flexibility & outstanding off- road mobility and different operational capabilities.
The vehicle is fitted with mine- proof seats against landmines & (NBC) filtration system as well multi weapon station (caliber 7.62mm, 50 mm , MK 19 ). The vehicle has a modular flexible configuration that offers other integral systems and broad range of equipment options such as internal & external communication systems, day & night vision & sighting system, external anti- (RPG) net.
Another configuration of the vehicle’s family includes ( RCWS) caliber 50 mm vehicle, command & control vehicle, ambulance recovery vehicle, CBRN vehicle, reconnaissance vehicle, thermal camera vehicle, corps of engineers vehicle, missile launcher vehicle & LTV as well as other versions according to customer’s requirements.

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Saudi Al Shibl 4x4 light armored vehicles in service in Turkmenistan
The Turkmen army has put a Saudi-made light armored vehicle 4x4 into service: the Al Shibl.

Al Shibl light armored vehicle, made in Saudi Arabia (Picture source: Army Recognition)

Pictures and videos recently released showed that, at a recent military parade, Turkmenistan revealed its purchase of Al Shibl armored vehicles from Saudi Arabia. Eight vehicles were seen in the parade. The total number of units actually bought from Saudi Arabia is unknown. Turkmen President Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedov traveled to Saudi Arabia in 2016 and met with King Salman bin Abdulaziz al Saud to discuss a range of bilateral issues, including defense cooperation.

Built on a commercial chassis, the Al Shibl has a steel body offering a level 1 of the STANAG 4569 standard. With its combat weight of 4,600 kg (payload: 1 tonne), it is reported to be able to travel up to 120 km/h on road conditions thanks to its 228 hp engine (torque: 367 nM). The power/weight ratio is 49 hp/tonne. The vehicle has a crew of two, with room for seven passengers. The vehicles in Turkmen service have manned turrets with machine guns on the roof. Different variants are available, fitted with the appropriate equipment and/or armament.

Turkmenistan has stepped up its procurement of armored vehicles in recent years, buying hardware from the Gulf states as well as from Turkey.

 

[IblinI]

it will still never come close to a rising superpower like Turkey.

Treatment is needed for both of you, a Psychiatrist is on his way.

 

[IblinI]

leave them... no point in talking

These ancient Turkic peoples, throughout the last 40000 years, had migrated further into Euroasian steppes, Europe, America, China, India as well as Mesopotomia while bringing their highly intelligent civilizations to the indigenous populations and These ancient Turkic / Turanians also founded the civilizations of ancient Sumer, early Egypt, China, Indus Valley/India(Harappa) and furthermore influenced on every other early civilizations Sumerians , early Egyptians, Hittites/Hattians, Trojans, Lydians, Etruscans, Pelasgians, Basques and Celts/Picts, Indus civilizations of Harappa and Mohenjo-Dara, Incas, Aztecs, Mayans, and the builders of all ancient worlwide cities including South American cities of Tihuanaco and Karal

Read his essay, we are all human but the differences, just amazing.

 

[Jobless Jack]

Never. Not in a billion years.

If anything saudi and the other skeikh emirates are well on its way to economic and social collapse.

Israel is the only future power in the ME.

The rest middle east countries are chumps.

 

[Titanium100]

Never. Not in a billion years.

If anything saudi and the other skeikh emirates are well on its way to economic and social collapse.

Israel is the only future power in the ME.

The rest middle east countries are chumps.

With what? Only 200.000 capable people of fighting and 8m civilians Stragetically nobody even views Israel as a security issue in the middle east this is hard facts on the ground.. It is just an outpost even the American experts refere it as to such..