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Caliph Donald Trump and the Rise of the Christian Taliban

democracy is slowly dying with death of the the west, turkey already voted their dictator, neo nazis rising in europe more to follow.

india alone in now hope for democracy which itself is far from being an ideal one. and now turning slowly into hinducracy itself
 
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How many Christians have been killed since WW2 by the Muslims? You got your Darfur and East Timor. What else do you want? Why do you want us to condemn this or that?







Any civilized person would condemn all acts of violence, but the truth is thousands of Christians are murdered every year in Iraq, Syria, Egypt and throughout Africa, even in Turkey and Europe priests have been beheaded inside churches. (Conveniently many Christians murdered in those countries becasuse of war are bunched up as Muslims) then radicals make false claims claiming x amounts of Muslims were killed in Iraq when terrorists blow up Christians in the country. Thousand of churches around the world have been destroyed or shut down over the years and many countries such as Saudi Arabia outlaw churches.

And what about hundreds of years ago? Should we ignore the killings that occurred in the Middle East and Europe? The problem is people attacking me and calling me names when I condemn them for their remarks about Christians, Jews, whites and women, so far no one has condemned those people for saying those things but everyone instead is attacking me.

I view discussions on this forum as sharing ideas and learning, some ideas may not be popular with some but it’s an open platform. With that said others here blindly throw out hate and make nonsense claims, when that failes my religion, ethnicity, country of origin, country of residence, ect get attacked and questioned.



How many Christians have been killed since WW2? Now compare that figure with the number of Muslims killed from Algeria to Bosnia to Palestine to Kashmir to Chechnya to Myanmar at the hands of Non-Muslims.




Both Muslims and many Christians were killed over the years. There is a distinct difference though. Inoccent Christians are often targeted only because they are Christians, often they are massacred in Churches. Where as Muslims that are killed are killed due to wars not necessarily because of their faith and many times killed by other Muslsims. Many Muslim countries joined the war against Iraq for Iraq invading Kuwait. Same thing in Yemen and Syria. Same during the Iran Iraq war.


You also going to blame Christians for Chechnya when Chechnya was Russian territory that tried to break away with the help of many foreign fighters? Chechen warlords also mistreated ethic Russians before the war, regrettably many people died. Iraq was because of bad politicians, Afghanistan started because Bin Laden decided to bomb the world trade centers and Pentagon. It was never Christians vs Muslims, it was terrorists waging ‘holly wars against infidels’. Either way all wars and killing should be condemned regardless of who is the victims.



Why do you expect any mercy from us when you never showed us any mercy yourself?




Excuse me, if we talk purely from historical perspectives Muslims occupied pillaged and raped Europe for over 800 years. They committed mass genocide in India and ruled for hundreds of years there, they committed genocide of the Armannians and Genocide in Africa in recent times. They colonized and waged wars all over the Middle East including the conquer of Persia, North Africa and Asia. Many Christians and Hindu towns and their holly cities Churches and temples were looted and turned into Mosques and in these day now we have mass terrorist attacks (thousands) all over the world.

Many jihadists have the mentality that Muslims are always the victims when history disprove this idea. Many Muslims today die at the hand of other Muslims and white Christians get the blame. Yes countries such as the US and Soviet Union are not innocent either when it comes to wars but people are not actually looking at facts when they make claims.

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They didn’t conquer all that land by giving out flowers.



MJews who died in WW2 are still worthy of tears, a million Iraqis and half a million Afghans who died recently aren't?




Most people including Christians, Jews and atheists have condemned the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Bin Laden should have not decided to attack the World Trade Centers and the average people condemn all wars.



What if 1.5 million white Christians died in Iraq and Afghanistan




Many of the people massacred and killed in Iraq were Christians and most were killed by fellow Muslims or criminals detonating explosives in markets and blowing up churches and mosques.

....and Bin Laden started the war. Millions of Christianity, Muslims and Hindus have been killed by Muslims. Forgetting Armania and Africa again?




then I would have loved to see your reaction--- I would have loved to see your reaction had 10,000 white christian women been raped by the Indian army in Kashmir--- or if it were Christians being burned alive, raped and kicked out of their homes in Mynamar--- or if the Chinese were putting Christians in concentration camps.




Christians have suffered all that you mentioned
and the Chinese did put Christians in concentration camps, the Soviet Union did the same thing. My dad was locked up for being a Christian.




It's ironic coming from a Russian whose country colonized central Asian Muslims, carried out genocides in Chechnya Daghestan and Ingushetia.




What ironic is that Muslims colonized and took more land then Russia and they did it more brutally too.




Invaded Afghanistan and killed countless innocent Afghans and is now supporting a butcher sitting in Syria in the name of fighting against terror by starving out civilian populations and blowing them to smithereens. Now Putin wants to arm genocidal Serbs against the Bosnians as well.




Who is bombing Yemen? Who invaded Kuwait? Who gassed the Kurds? Who’s fault was it Iran and Iraq had a war? Who supplies terrorists in Syria? Who massacred the Armanians? Who massacred Africans, who massacred Hindus, who stole land all over the world? Who blows up markets, churches, mosques, weddings and schools?



And you want us peasants to condemn fictional gas chambers and the so called persecution of white Christians.



Fictional gas chambers? You mean like the ones that have been photographed? The ones that the Germans kept records of? The ones where remains were found? The ones that thousands of American and Soviet soldiers uncovered after they liberated death camps?

All a big conspiracies except there is physical evidence, tens of thousands of eye witnesses, photos, videos, records and admission from German guards.




Countless Muslims being slaughtered like cattle, you could care less but harmless slurs and jokes about jews make you triggered.




More Christians have been killed then vs versa, and It’s not so much slurs I care about rather I care about false claims, re-written history and a hypocrite mentality and lack of any knowledge about history.






How are they treated in Muslim countries? Now I'm sure you get your dose of information from propaganda outlets on youtube or TV. Or maybe from Tommy Robinson types.





Christians are treated like second class citizens in some Muslim countries. All I have to do is look at the laws in some countries in the region, there is also no propaganda when we have news coming from Egypt or some other part of the Middle East covering how Churches are burned or bombed. It’s hard to hid these things. Oh yea and did I tell you I know, Arab Christians?

How many Christians flock to fundamentalist Islamic countries compared to tens of millions of Muslims that flock to predominantly white Christian countries? Who treats who better? This is a serious and honest question.




Muslims haven't killed Jews, Christians, and women in millions in their countries since WW2 regardless of how they treat them, they still treat them a lot better then how the non-Muslims have treated the Muslims.






This is a joke right? Again why have millions of Muslims floated across the ocean to illegally cross into white Christians countries? Broke down border walls? Applied for political asylum because of persecution in their lovely countries? The only Christians coming to predominantly Muslim countries come in small numbers and they do so because they are either getting offered a very high paying job in the gulf or they are poor Christians from the Philippines. Either way none ever want to stay and end up leaving.



Muslims have been suffering occupations, invasions on false accusations and massacres at the hands of Non-Muslims.




Learn your history. Muslims have done much more occupations and have done it in the name of Islam. The majority of wars the infidels wage is based on the fact that we infidels either intervene to stop invasion or massacre (Kuwait) or we fight back after we have been attackeded examples include Crusades, 911, Armanians genocides, ect.

The funny thing about him is that he worships west while the west considers Russia uncivilised and barbaric nation while he lives in a Muslim country... I mean...what to make from his opinion...except it is just false and there are some christians who always had this hatred in them ...the same who supported crusades and committed shameless crimes against humanity...the worst beasts and still their crusades are continuing and christian USA and West have killed millions of people in the middle east


Firstly the Crusades were fought to expel brutal Muslim armies that occupied Europe for 800 years.

Secondly you keep attacking me on a personal level. It’s just a signe you lost your argument and are out of your league.

Thirdly I don’t live in a Muslim country. I explained it many times as to why I haven’t changed my Jordanian flag.

Fourthly I could care less what some westerners think of Russia. Russia created much of the great inventions of the past several hundred years and is world renowned for literature, arts, philosophy, music, ect. It is the ‘west’ that benifited from Russia and the ‘west’ that ripped off much of Russian cultural and inventions, so I could care less what some misguided people think.
 
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democracy is slowly dying with death of the the west, turkey already voted their dictator, neo nazis rising in europe more to follow.

india alone in now hope for democracy which itself is far from being an ideal one. and now turning slowly into hinducracy itself

India was never a democracy. But please by all means keep your hope in the ‘last bastion of democracy’....:sarcastic::sarcastic:
 
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But what makes you think women need more rights than that?

What has Western freedoms turned Western women AND men into? Feminists (even though they already have excessive freedom as it is) that had turned them into monsters? Lesbians? Dykes? Terrible parodies of men? Literal sluts when the average American woman by the age of 24 will have already had more than 19 sexual partners? Children out of wedlock from different men? More than 75% divorce initiated by the women? How is that good for society?

Granted, women in Muslim countries are not treated the best and are lacking in basic rights that Islam grants them but which Muslims have failed to deliver, but women aren't the only one who suffer. But under no circumstance is the Western system an ideal to pursue for Muslims. And those Muslims who trash Christianity/Christians for openly professing their faith in Western countries while they themselves would never tolerate secularism within their own "Islamic" countries are, frankly speaking, hypocrites who don't practice what they preach and this is why Muslim countries are a mess.

There is no "Islamic" country today because Islam is about justice which does not exist in most Muslim countries.


Equal rights should be afforded to all regardless of gender, race or religion. Women deserve everything men deserve after all we all have mothers and sisters, we want them to succeed, get educations, get good jobs, make good money and live comfortably.


Feminism and women’s rights are oddly not the same. Luckily there are not as many feminists as you may think and most feminists are brainwashed men hatting liberals. There are plenty of countries that have just as much women’s rights as the women in the US or Canada but hardcore liberal feminism is almost none existent in those places. Places in Eastern Europe have equal rights for women but the societies are much more conservative then in other places like the US. Liberals, including feminists, in general love to complain about being victims however they project racists and sexism an example would be all the ‘white guilt’ liberals project onto other people. Liberals are often blamiming innocent white people for their lack money, good jobs, and in general miserable lives yet whites face the same struggles and in many cases get dealt institutional descimination due to affirmative action. Many times white students are turned down from universities because less qualified minorities take their place. In some cases the white students had a harder upbringing then the minorities that took their place. In many cases qualified job applicants are turned down because companies feel they need to be more diverse.

The point is liberals socialists are dangerous. This includes the hardcore feminists. Think about this, many liberal outlets in media are blasting white people on a daily basis. It’s all over television, news, entertainment and universities (all dominated by liberals). They call for whites to give up houses or belongings, they call whites to give money to minorities, they call on whites to pay more taxes on behalf of minorities. They call for whites to be expelled. Hitler did the same with Jews, he demonized them in media, he blamed them for being privileged, he blamed them for controlling everything, and at the end he he doported them, took their belongings and killed many.

Socialist=Nazi idiology.
 
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Nazis were White Nationalist Fascists, not socialists despite the name. They came to power on the basis of hate against Communists.

Trump’s support base are also White Nationalist Fascists who are striving to make America Great Again (meaning White again.) For them liberal democrat means the same thing as socialist, which is a misnomer.

Both ideologies rely on liberal/minority scapegoats and news/historical/political disinformation/revisionism to build a support base and to sustain said support base.
 
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Excuse me, if we talk purely from historical perspectives Muslims occupied pillaged and raped Europe for over 800 years. They committed mass genocide in India and ruled for hundreds of years there, they committed genocide of the Armannians and Genocide in Africa in recent times. They colonized and waged wars all over the Middle East including the conquer of Persia, North Africa and Asia. Many Christians and Hindu towns and their holly cities Churches and temples were looted and turned into Mosques and in these day now we have mass terrorist attacks (thousands) all over the world.

Many jihadists have the mentality that Muslims are always the victims when history disprove this idea. Many Muslims today die at the hand of other Muslims and white Christians get the blame. Yes countries such as the US and Soviet Union are not innocent either when it comes to wars but people are not actually looking at facts when they make claims.
Most of your claims which I quoted and which I didn't quote are simply not the truth. For example;
" Firstly the Crusades were fought to expel brutal Muslim armies that occupied Europe for 800 years."
[so the holy land is in Europe] And what's brutal about Muslim conquest of those lands? People convert when they want to, most of Europe was pagan itself. Doesn't mean that sword converted them.

Go ahead and fight wars, no ones stopping you from doing so, just don't justify war crimes---just because the ancestors of the other side allegedly did something similar five hundred years ago. Because at that time, everyone (including the Christians) was in the killing or empire building mode.

There wouldn't be that many Hindus in India had Muslims been committing genocides, forcibly converting and destroying temples as per your false claims. Stop getting your dose from pdf Indians since most of them want to carry out a genocide and mass rape in Kashmir today and as a justification they peddle the myth that the Muslim kings did the same (see their twitter and FB accounts)---Christians in India live no better than Muslims or Dalits.

Forced conversions my @ss, we didn't forcibly converted the Jews who were the most vulnerable, did we? who's forcibly converting white European Christians now?


Learn your history. Muslims have done much more occupations and have done it in the name of Islam. The majority of wars the infidels wage is based on the fact that we infidels either intervene to stop invasion or massacre (Kuwait) or we fight back after we have been attackeded examples include Crusades, 911, Armanians genocides, ect.
We are in 21st century where there are international regulations on warfare---not in the medieval times.
What's the result of today's USA's wars of aggression? A few industrialists get rich at the expense of millions of people, increased insecurity in the world and increased demand of security equipment. See the difference.

Go ahead and fight wars, no ones stopping you from doing so, just don't justify war crimes---just because the ancestors of the other side allegedly did something similar five hundred years ago. Because at that time, everyone (including the Christians) was in the killing or empire building mode.

Crusades, since you brought that up. We know which side committed war crimes during the crusades and it was your side (not exactly your side because the orthodox Christians condemned participation in those wars which you proudly mention with the phrase "fighting back").

911, firstly the whole story about 911 is fishy, secondly, who gives anyone a right to carpet bomb civilian villages in a revenge attack? Bombing civilians is a war crime regardless if it's been carried out in the name of "fighting back".
You wouldn't know that entire villages full of civilians were bombed by B-52s in the name of fighting terror since the mainstream media doesn't report anything which shows the West in a bad light.
How many Christians flock to fundamentalist Islamic countries compared to tens of millions of Muslims that flock to predominantly white Christian countries? Who treats who better? This is a serious and honest question.

That's because Muslim countries are piss poor with nothing to offer. And that's because the so called Christian countries are secular. [which is changing with the increase in Islamophobia and the passing of anti-Muslim bills in several countries]

Christians are treated like second class citizens in some Muslim countries.
Banning veil, mosques, minarets, call for prayers, pulling hijab off, stalking and harassing Muslims count as being treated as second class citizens?

And what's your point regarding attacks on Churches? Those Muslim countries also face attacks on mosques and their Muslim armies are fighting against those people. All of which is the result of illegal and brutal Western invasions and interventions.

many times killed by other Muslsims.
And we pdf Muslims have been condemning our own Muslim brothers for doing that in case you have been living under a rock all those years. We condemned Paris attacks if you were logged off during that time. [In the French revenge attack though 300 Syrian civilians died and Christians celebrated that attack].

We have been condemning ISIS ever since, in fact it is the Muslims who are fighting them all over the world. We condemn what our own Muslim brothers do in the name of Islam or not in the name of Islam, the problem is that our Christian counterparts are not doing the same.

Hordes of Pakistani special forces were whipped out by 19 year old Soviet paratroops in Afghanistan
At the peak of the war, there were 18 Pakistani soldiers inside Afghanistan. 9 teams, different sectors, two soldiers in each team who acted as advisors. There were never hoards of soldiers sent in. Stop reading fiction in the name of history.

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Nazis were White Nationalist Fascists, not socialists despite the name. They came to power on the basis of hate against Communists.



It’s sad how ignorant and uneducated people are. Weren’t you the one that accused me of being a Nazi? Despite the fact that I’m Jewish and had much of my family fight the Nazis? It’s the same pathetic tactic lol liberals use, anyone that disagrees with them is labeled a Nazi. Patheti. Study history, I was born in the Soviet Union, I had family that lived under both communism and Facism (Nazis).

Communism and Nazism is like Shia vs Suni or Protestant vs Catholics. All 3 groups share very similar beliefs but hate each other for disagreements on topics such as successors. Hitler signed a nine aggression pact with the Soviet Union and both worked together to carve up Poland. Hitler then attacked the Soviet Union for land.


Nazis and Communists literally had the same idiology. Both socialists, both authoritarian, both disarmed the population, both targeted ethic groups. Both hated and deported Jews. I challenge you to find 1 major difference between the two ideologies.

Communists killed millions of Ukrainians and Russians because they were successful or deemed a threat to the state—Hitler killed millions of Jews because they were successful and he deemed them a threat to the state.


Trump’s support base are also White Nationalist Fascists who are striving to make America Great Again (meaning White again.) For them liberal democrat means the same thing as socialist, which is a misnomer.




You’re a real piece of work. Been drinking the liberal propaganda Kool Aid? Liberals spreading fake propaganda as usual after they lost.


Only 58% of whites voted for Trump. :lol:
29% Asians voted Trump
29% Hispanics voted Trump
47% Native American Indians voted Trump
37% other or mixed race voted Trump
8% black voted for Trump

http://college.usatoday.com/2016/11/09/how-we-voted-by-age-education-race-and-sexual-orientation/



Also by the way, Trump has Jewish family and appointmented many Jews.

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Look at those black, Jewish, Asian and Native America Nazis appointee by Trump :lol:

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Both ideologies rely on liberal/minority scapegoats and news/historical/political disinformation/revisionism to build a support base and to sustain said support base.


I suggest you stop talking. You’re using random opinions and retarded leftist conspiracy theories which have been debunked with hard evidence as facts.

Everything you claimed has been wrong except that liberals exploit minorities for votes.
 
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Equal rights should be afforded to all regardless of gender, race or religion.
But that's Liberalism/socialism.

Why should "rights" just be handed out purely on the basis of ones gender, race or religion?

Why can't rights be handed out on the basis of responsibility according to merit?
Women deserve everything men deserve
On what basis?

Do women and men think(reason) alike? Do they approach certain issues alike?

I don't think so. This is why there are no women Generals even in lands of "equality", or if there are any they are in non-critical roles and most likely put in that position due to affirmative action (like you pointed out).
after all we all have mothers and sisters, we want them to succeed, get educations, get good jobs, make good money and live comfortably.
Of course, but by virtue of their merit and not their gender.

Most women will always prefer professions that are more attuned to their femininity but Liberalism is what tells them the lie that they can be just like men and vice versa.


Feminism and women’s rights are oddly not the same.
True. Islam gives women their due rights and obligations, just as it does for men.
Places in Eastern Europe have equal rights for women but the societies are much more conservative then in other places like the US.
Maybe comparitively Eastern Europe is maybe 20 years behind the West in this regard, but slowly it is headed in the same direction.

Secondly Eastern European women behave no differently from Western women once they land on Western soil. But this is the case with other women too but Eastern European women moreso than others.
Liberals, including feminists, in general love to complain about being victims however they project racists and sexism an example would be all the ‘white guilt’ liberals project onto other people. Liberals are often blamiming innocent white people for their lack money, good jobs, and in general miserable lives yet whites face the same struggles and in many cases get dealt institutional descimination due to affirmative action. Many times white students are turned down from universities because less qualified minorities take their place. In some cases the white students had a harder upbringing then the minorities that took their place. In many cases qualified job applicants are turned down because companies feel they need to be more diverse

The point is liberals socialists are dangerous. This includes the hardcore feminists. Think about this, many liberal outlets in media are blasting white people on a daily basis. It’s all over television, news, entertainment and universities (all dominated by liberals). They call for whites to give up houses or belongings, they call whites to give money to minorities, they call on whites to pay more taxes on behalf of minorities. They call for whites to be expelled.
True, but this contradicts your previous statement about giving equal rights to everyone regardless of race, religion or gender which is impossible due to the inherent biological differences in performance capabilities of the different groups which is why you then need socialist government policies to artificially prop up these other groups to maintain an illusion of "equality".

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Hitler did the same with Jews, he demonized them in media, he blamed them for being privileged, he blamed them for controlling everything, and at the end he he doported them, took their belongings and killed many.
This is historically false. Jews were working to the detriment of the German nation (not all German Jews, of course, but the ones in influential positions were).

All four leaders of the German Communist movement, that agitated for a "Red Revolution" while German soldiers were fighting at the front, were Jews:

Rosa Luxemburg (Communist revolutionary and leader of leftist terror group "Sparticist League")

Karl Liebnecht (co-founder of Sparticist League)

Eugene Levine (leader of Bavarian Red Army)

Kurt Eisner (founder of Bavarian Soviet Republic)

Communism/Socialism are creation of Jewish intellectuals (Marx).


Also Leftist & Jewish dominated Social Democratic government of Weimar Republic enacted gun control regulations which Hitler removed when he came into power.

Socialist=Nazi idiology.
No, it does not.

There were some tendencies that might be considered "socialistic" but these were due to the dire circumstances that required a strong leader to intervene in an emergency basis and then of course the war prolonged this. By no means would the Third Reich have maintained these tendencies after the resolution of these issues.
 
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