Black people protest against discrimination by police in Guangzhou

[Fattyacids]

Which is why i always tell a lot of people, that there are only two types of immigrants that i would prefer to be allowed into Pakistan: East Asians (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans), and Europeans (particularly the Nordics) because these people are productive, civilized, and innovative.

Lord Vader, if Han Solo brings Chewbacca along, would you allow in?

 

[ephone]

China has been quite tolerant. If they do not understand, they should leave right away. You do not want to see the other side of China for being violent and criminal.

 

[Borr]

Thinking of what happened to the Quanzhou arab/ME traders by the end of the Tang and Song dynasties, things can go very ugly. When the alien population remained alien and wanted to embrace the new political force, they became traitors to the local natives and got a tragic end.

Tolerance only goes up to the level the economy allows. But they did enjoy a century or so of a good life. Same to Aisans in the US.

 

[TheJewverine]

Do you lack a brain or what?? Everything in my post which you quoted is self explanatory. If i have to explain it to you then truly you are a pathetic retard alongside a hypocritical Zionist scum.

If you posted explanations half as frequently as you do personal attacks, your posts would be 110% more legible. Why are you always in such a foul mood, constantly mouthing out personal attacks? I feel bad for someone filled with such venom in their daily life.

 

[gambit]

So we must incorporate them into Chinese society, they must share Chinese values, and Chinese goals. Make them Chinese. You stay here, you are Chinese first and foremost, and whatever else second.

We are better suited than the Americans to do this, Africans coming to China is like Chinese going to America. We never enslaved Africans, the African American and African Chinese are fundamentally different in a wide variety of ways, including way of thinking, this seem like a small thing, but this is the key difference between US and China, and this is the key advantage.

Note the highlighted.

If you think that telling modern day Africans that US history includes slaves and that somehow is China is the better because of that history, you are going to fail. African blacks today have no more emotional ties than American blacks to slavery. On the other hand, African blacks already know that the US is an immigrant country and elected a black President while stories will spread on how blacks of all origins are badly treated in China. People all over the world know that it is easier to become a US citizen than a Chinese citizen for the simple reason that to be a Chinese one must first be of Asiatic stock. The allowance is unlikely to happen since it would require all Chinese to reassess what is it like to be Chinese minus the Asian identity, then replace the current identity with the modified formula.

So no, China is not better suited than America in terms of racial integration into society and body politics.

 

[Genesis]

Note the highlighted.

If you think that telling modern day Africans that US history includes slaves and that somehow is China is the better because of that history, you are going to fail. African blacks today have no more emotional ties than American blacks to slavery. On the other hand, African blacks already know that the US is an immigrant country and elected a black President while stories will spread on how blacks of all origins are badly treated in China. People all over the world know that it is easier to become a US citizen than a Chinese citizen for the simple reason that to be a Chinese one must first be of Asiatic stock. The allowance is unlikely to happen since it would require all Chinese to reassess what is it like to be Chinese minus the Asian identity, then replace the current identity with the modified formula.

So no, China is not better suited than America in terms of racial integration into society and body politics.

not what I meant, Americans enslaved Africans, this created a group of dysfunctional people. You think you can just tell a slave that yea you are free and everything's good?

They face the same problem that Native Americans face, vast majorities of them are not functional human beings, they raise dysfunctional children and the cycle continues.


Africans in Africa doesn't have this problem, especially those that choose to go to other nations, they are most likely people with dreams, aspirations, and a work ethic, sometimes they do resort to crimes, but it's because they just want to feed their family, and society didn't do a good job integrating them.


Africans in China right now are not being integrated very well, this needs work, and yes we do need to redefine what it means to be Chinese, we are evolving.

All foreigners have visa issues, this isn't limited to Black people, even Chinese people have Hukou issues when talking social services.

China may look developed, but we are still very much a developing nation, give it time. China is not a finished article, that's why from year to year China is different.


If we are going to talk discrimination, well, you really want to go that route? Cause America is not exactly innocent either. I don't like to do this because nobody is perfect and a lot of times it's not the state, but the individual that's at fault but you seem to love this comparison crap.

 

[Beidou2020]

Why are unskilled immigrants allowed into China?

Where is the border security? airport security?

 

[sincity]

Mainland Chinese poster immigrated to other countries for the chance of a better life but these poster will shut the same opportunity the immigrant seek in the foreign land as they propose China government to deport immigrant back to their home country. Shouldn't Mainland Chinese self deport back to China then demand China government to strictly enforce China immigrantion law.

You can't stay in your hosted nations and advocated your motherland to deport immigrant back to their homeland.

Would be nice people from other nations in the US pointed to Chinese immigrant in the US and tell them to self deport for whatever reason Chinese immigrant hinder the progress of US development.

 

[KAL-EL]

Lord Vader, if Han Solo brings Chewbacca along, would you allow in?

 

[Kyle Sun]

Are you serious?
Canada is a spanking new country. The population is made up of mainly of immigrants, legals and illegals.
We have illegals from every country you can think of. We even have illegals from the USA.

And you are being dramatic. Are you a drama student? You make it sound like China is having a Boxer's rebellion 2.0.
How many blacks are in China now? Somebody here quoted a figure of 330K. And out of these 330K, how many are without a job or a business? How many are turning your country into a 3rd world country?

With China's Hukou system, I doubt the blacks were able to sponge off from the Chinese. So you are talking about people who beg and loiter. Big forking deal!!There are beggars everywhere. There are Chinese beggars too here from the BIG RED CHINA. Did you hear us crying foul?

Tell you what I think about you and people (Chinese) like you.
You are like a man who had been living in poverty most of his life and suddenly hit a jackpot. Now you have a bit of money and think you are better than others.

You still have a long long long way to go.

So , Canada will allow illegal immigrants to stay in your country instead of deporting them ?

And we can go to Canada without VISA?

 

[armchairPrivate]

So , Canada will allow illegal immigrants to stay in your country instead of deporting them ?

And we can go to Canada without VISA?

We have illegals. Some did allow to stay legally after they have gone through the process. Some get deported.
Citizens from some countries can stay in Canada indefinitely such as those from UK without visa. (commonwealth)
My x, a Brit, came to Canada over 40 years ago, got a job, bought a house, got marries, had a family without any paper.
Some can stay for a short time (a year) without visa.
I can go to visit UK without a visa.
I can drive over the bridge to the US without a visa.

It all depends on the agreements and arrangement between countries.

I was not saying it is OK to let illegals stay. What I was saying was there are illegals in every country. Those illegals who made troubles in China are in small number and the troubles are small troubles. It is really not such a big deal.

Heck, as we speak, there are Chinese illegals in the Philippines, in Nigeria, in Brazil.

 

[Kyle Sun]

We have illegals. Some did allow to stay legally after they have gone through the process. Some get deported.
Citizens from some countries can stay in Canada indefinitely such as those from UK without visa. (commonwealth)
My x, a Brit, came to Canada over 40 years ago, got a job, bought a house, got marries, had a family without any paper.
Some can stay for a short time (a year) without visa.
I can go to visit UK without a visa.
I can drive over the bridge to the US without a visa.

It all depends on the agreements and arrangement between countries.

I was not saying it is OK to let illegals stay. What I was saying was there are illegals in every country. Those illegals who made troubles in China are in small number and the troubles are small troubles. It is really not such a big deal.

Heck, as we speak, there are Chinese illegals in the Philippines, in Nigeria, in Brazil.

We do not have such kind of agreements with African countries.

And the key is, not only few of those black people make trouble .

If they do not have IDs , they can not have a legal job in chinese company.

Normally they will run their own small business or work in some African people's company which is legal .

This is the better guys , some guys do drug/rob/steal,and they make the community safety situation worst.

That is why we need to deport those illegal immigrants , yes , the target is illegal immigrants ,not the black people ,but most of the illegal immigrants are black.That is all.

 

[gambit]

not what I meant, Americans enslaved Africans, this created a group of dysfunctional people. You think you can just tell a slave that yea you are free and everything's good?

They face the same problem that Native Americans face, vast majorities of them are not functional human beings, they raise dysfunctional children and the cycle continues.

Right...So mental dysfunctions from ancestors' misery are genetically transferable ?

Africans in China right now are not being integrated very well, this needs work, and yes we do need to redefine what it means to be Chinese, we are evolving.

All foreigners have visa issues, this isn't limited to Black people, even Chinese people have Hukou issues when talking social services.

China may look developed, but we are still very much a developing nation, give it time. China is not a finished article, that's why from year to year China is different.

This is not about accessing social services. Yours is clearly limited thinking.

This is about defining what is it that make up a nation. Here is the definition of 'nation'...

1. a large aggregate of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory.

A 'nation' is not a state, which is a body of people that exercises political leadership over the nation. A 'nation' can be stateless, like the Romanis, aka 'Gypsies', in Europe. They share a history, language, and unique cultural artifacts, but each group lives under the authority of a host government. The Romanis are a stateless nation. Before the establishment of Israel, world Jewry is a stateless nation. Now we have Israel, a country with a government. Do you understand the definition of 'nation' ?

So what is it that make up the Chinese nation ? What are those factors ? They are everything from history, all thousands of yrs of that history, to genetics, to religion, and so on and on.

You really think that your racist society can change enough to allow blacks to adopt Chinese values, history, an assorted unique cultural artifacts ? You think parents with only THE SON will allow him to marry a black girl ?

America can do it because the original people were immigrants in the first place. They have far less psychological baggage than you Chinese do. Yes, they were racists, but their immigrant origins made it difficult for them to reconcile what they are with their racist beliefs and eventually, the US was nearly torn in two via a civil war to settle the matter on the side that the US will not be a 'white European' country.

If we are going to talk discrimination, well, you really want to go that route? Cause America is not exactly innocent either. I don't like to do this because nobody is perfect and a lot of times it's not the state, but the individual that's at fault but you seem to love this comparison crap.

Ready whenever you are. I never said the US is perfect and as an immigrant I can outdo you in pointing out the flaws of the US and its people. But I can also point out there are plenty of immigrants who are patriotic to the US based upon values that the US believes to be universal. What values can your China tell an African black or a Japanese or a French or even an American to be attractive enough for any of them to psychologically enjoin him/her-self to the Chinese people ?

 

[Airboss786]

We are all racists! But Chinese or far east Asians are really the most tolerant in the world to strangers.

No I would have to disagree with you in regards to what you stated!
I believe Western Europeans & North Americans are the most tolerant to strangers in this world.

 

[ViXuyen]

East Asian racism is an oxymoron