Biden says he will accept no “red lines” from Moscow - I don't accept anybody's red lines

[Battlion25]

Okay in defense of Biden that title may come off little strange but let me explain the context and how it all hangs together. Moscow claims NATO eastward expansion in Ukraine, Poland, Finland and Baltic states etc etc is Moscow redlines as in them expanding eastwards but that expansion happened few years ago and NATO can't sede an inch to Russia by withdrawing from these areas hence it is non-negotiable stance for them and Putin's redlines in East Europe and Ukraine is unrecognized by the US and allies hence his redlines overlap into their own redlines.

Biden comments on Russia’s ‘red lines’

4 Dec, 2021 03:19 / Updated 2 hours ago

S President Joe Biden has vowed to hold a lengthy talk with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin on the issue of Ukraine, while insisting he will accept no “red lines” from Moscow.
“We've been aware of Russia's actions [concerning Ukraine] for a long time and my expectation is we're going to have a long discussion with Putin,” Biden said Friday night as he left for a trip to Camp David.
“I don't accept anybody's red lines,” the president added in apparent reference to “red lines” Moscow had outlined earlier this week as several Western publicans suggested that a military showdown in Ukraine is imminent.


On Thursday, the country’s foreign ministry claimed that the military bloc had assured Russia it would not move “an inch” further east at the end of the Cold War. Despite that pledge, NATO has continued to grow since, encompassing new member states ever-closer to Russia’s borders, with Ukraine repeatedly expressing interest in joining up in recent years.

The ministry stressed that “the only option for resolving the current situation” would be for NATO to rule out any further expansion towards Russia’s borders as well as for it to stop its ongoing military build-up at Moscow's doorstep.

Last month, the Biden administration warned European officials that Russia could be mulling an “invasion” of eastern Ukraine, with Secretary of State Antony Blinken threatening “serious consequences” in the event of any “aggression” there.

Moscow has rejected those predictions as groundless, but has voiced some concern about a possible internal conflict breaking out in Ukraine's war-torn Donbass. Russia has accused the West of “encouraging” Ukraine to start an armed conflict by moving NATO military gear closer to the border.

Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov also claimed Ukrainian forces have been using US-made rockets as they battle separatists in the east of the country, arguing that the alleged US assistance increases chances of a full-blown civil war.

Biden dismisses Russia’s ‘red lines’

US President Joe Biden has vowed to hold lengthy talks with his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, on the issue of Ukraine, but insists he will accept no warnings about “red lines” from Moscow.

www.rt.com

 

[REhorror]

Dangerous.

 

[tower9]

Go ahead and keep living in La La land where you think your actions have no consequences.

 

[Khan vilatey]

muhahahahaha

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[vi-va]

muhahahahaha

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What a crap from Obama.

Ukrainian crisis has little to do with Ukrainians. It's all about NATO and Russia.

Ukraine was sandwiched by NATO and Russia, that's the reality of great power politics, and the tragedy of Ukraine.

 

[Titanium100]

Where are the British, French, Germans etc etc they were making noise in the beginning but once Russia start threatening big bro US has been called in and they faded into the background remember if Ukraine is invaded the EU could collapse as consequence in cascade domino effect.

Russia wants to reconstruct the western civilization by building an Eastern Civilization replacing the western one ruled by Moscow instead of Bruxelles the stakes are high in Ukraine for the EU as an organization and it's future is on the line here

 

[Battlion25]

The US will intervene militarily in Ukraine

https://twitter.com/x/status/1466891242172735490

 

[northeast]

Biden is trying to use old cold war tricks to united his allies to take on china and russia in the same time. But so far it is only in his cheap words,no real actions except militaty drills after drills. USA is also trying to drag its all allies to decoupling from the rest of the world,otherwise there is no way to stop the rise of China. It is going to fail badly.

 

[tower9]

Biden is trying to use old cold war tricks to united his allies to take on china and russia in the same time. But so far it is only in his cheap words,no real actions except militaty drills after drills. USA is also trying to drag its all allies to decoupling from the rest of the world,otherwise there is no way to stop the rise of China. It is going to fail badly.

The reality is that regardless of what he does, the result will be the same. China will rise. That’s the most unsettling part for the American elite and a fact they can’t come to grips with.

 

[Titanium100]

What a crap from Obama.

Ukrainian crisis has little to do with Ukrainians. It's all about NATO and Russia.

Ukraine was sandwiched by NATO and Russia, that's the reality of great power politics, and the tragedy of Ukraine.

Obama was strange compared to Trump

 

[Battlion25]

The reality is that regardless of what he does, the result will be the same. China will rise. That’s the most unsettling part for the American elite and a fact they can’t come to grips with.

True the rise of china is natural and can't be reserved

 

[zectech]

Go ahead and keep living in La La land where you think your actions have no consequences.

Ever heard of Project Hammer. Not only was this the looting of Russia, this was the coup on top of the "fall of the Soviet Union" cia coup to have the cia firmly take over the Kremlin and the Russian economy.

You only come across the real details of Project Hammer, George HW Bush and cia secret scheme in obscure videos and articles.

Info on Project hammer is very censored on the cia/nsa WWW, known as the internet - because the promoted cia idea among the uniformed masses is that Russia is some land of Freedom from the cia. When in fact, the Kremlin is owned by the cia and the Russian economy is owned by the Bushes and other cia allies.

The same is true of the Democratic Party. The old Democratic Party of decades ago was filled with those who were opposed to cia wars (ie: the Vietnam War, etc). Especially with Obama, there was a cia coup in the Democratic Party to make the Dems a cia asset. The Republican Party is the cia party of warmongers and cia stooges. Biden is also (same as Obama) a cia puppet. The cia controls the Republicans, their first-born offspring and favourite means for total control. Look at the far Reichers in Latin America, that is the flavour that the cia promotes - Republicanism of Washington and other brands of nazism in Latin America. The Democratic Party went neo-liberal, and that is the wall street and banker brand - the other option of the cia and in Europe - the Rothschilds who run Macron and Draghi - two bankers.

So in dealing with Biden vs Russia, you are dealing with two who you should not care about - Yeltsin's/cia's appointee in the Kremlin vs biden - a cia stooge.

putin even has a khazar jewish grandmother, what a cohencidence.

And I am not saying there won't be a war, there has been wars between banksters vs nazis, where the Oligarchs own both sides and the new order out of it is worse than before and the Oligarchs make billions from war profit.

The cia is the biggest racket on the planet. Controls both political parties in Washington and London. Owns the Kremlin, and if the former SSRs get afraid of putin, cia attempts to rescue the former SSRs. And if Europe is afraid of cia Russia in the threat to the Baltic States, the cia is there to save Europe from Russia. Each side you pick in Dem vs Republican, putin vs biden, banksters of Europe vs Russia - the cia is not only the ally, the cia runs the show. The biggest racketeering on the planet.

Obama let Russia have the Crimea, because both Russia and Obama were cia assets. So the false claim that Taiwan is like the Crimea is for those who have no comprehension of how deep the cia control of things really is. Hillary Clinton is a Rothschild girl, and it would have been interesting to find out what would Hillary have done (which is an academic question), would she have fought cia Putin, Rothschild and the cia are on the same Oligarch team, however there is turf fighting between these two rival mafias. The Rockefellers have their mafia allied with Kissinger (Both are big into Big Pharma and promoting the clot shot). Netanyahu and the jewish far Reichers have their own mafia (bennett,etc; and are closely allied with the cia projects). The British "Royals" are another big faction of Oligarch mafias. And the Clintons are under the Rothschilds and have their own sub-mafia - the Clinton Mafia. These mafias are battling it out in a friendly match of who controls the globe.

Promoting cia putinism in Europe, the Baltic, and the Caucasus is not much different than promoting trump cia-ism in China. In fact because there are no real powerful defenders of the Europe from putin, except maybe the Rothschilds (on some good day) or another other old group like the European Monarchies, thus promoting putinism in Europe (ie:Ukraine, Baltic, Eastern Europe, and Caucasus) is worse than promoting trumpism in China. China can atleast defend themselves. The common people of the former SSRs are nearly defenseless against the cia.

Releasing cia putin onto Europe for China's interest, then complaining about cia trump is not a good look for China.

update: cia has things where each nation falls in line with cia policy based on bribes, threats, blackmails, shakedowns, lootings, coups, propaganda, etc. For instance if China were to break off Japan from Rockefeller control, which controls Tokyo through the Trilaterial Commission and CFR... then the cia would use Russia to threaten Japan back into supporting the cia/Washington/Rockfeller side. I am guessing that Japan wants to be free, yet does not know how to be free. This is the reality across the globe, nations trying to be free from the evils of the cia, yet stuck in these diabolical catch 22s. So the "a strong putin is best for China" is the conning of the public. A weak Russia would be better. At the capitols of Europe, fear of putin is being used to make them compliant with Washington. The same with the Patriot Act and other fearmongering "laws", the cia gains from division. And what is the best division - controlling both sides, so the cia presses division and fear at the wrong times to get you ensnared into cia plans.

 

[Titanium100]

Ever heard of Project Hammer. Not only was this the looting of Russia, this was the coup on top of the "fall of the Soviet Union cia coup" to have the cia firmly take over the Kremlin and the Russian economy.

You only come across the real details of Project Hammer, George HW Bush and cia secret scheme in obscure videos and articles.

(youtube even censors part of the video in the final part of the first minute because the video would make you guess that putin is a cia stooge)

Info on Project hammer is very censored on the cia/nsa WWW, known as the internet - because the promoted cia idea among the uniformed masses is that Russia is some land of Freedom from the cia. When in fact, the Kremlin is owned by the cia and the Russian economy is owned by the Bushes and other cia allies.

The same is true of the Democratic Party. The old Democratic Party of decades ago was filled with those who were opposed to cia wars (ie: the Vietnam War, etc). Especially with Obama, there was a cia coup in the Democratic Party to make the Dems a cia asset. The Republican Party is the cia party of warmongers and cia stooges. Biden is also (same as Obama) a cia puppet. The cia controls the Republicans, their first-born offspring and favourite means for total control. Look at the far Reichers in Latin America, that is the flavour that the cia promotes - Republicanism of Washington and other brands of nazism in Latin America. The Democratic Party went neo-liberal, and that is the wall street and banker brand - the other option of the cia and in Europe - the Rothschilds who run Macron and Draghi - two bankers.

So in dealing with Biden vs Russia, you are dealing with two who you should not care about - Yeltsin's/cia's appointee in the Kremlin vs biden - a cia stooge.

putin even has a khazar jewish grandmother, what a cohencidence.

And I am not saying there won't be a war, there has been wars between banksters vs nazis, where the Oligarchs own both sides and the new order out of it is worse than before and the Oligarchs make billions from war profit.

The cia is the biggest racket on the planet. Controls both political parties in Washington and London. Owns the Kremlin, and if the former SSRs get afraid of putin, cia attempts to rescue the former SSRs. And if Europe is afraid of cia Russia in the threat to the Baltic States, the cia is there to save Europe from Russia. Each side you pick in Dem vs Republican, putin vs biden, banksters of Europe vs Russia - the cia is not only the ally, the cia runs the show. The biggest racketeering on the planet.

Obama let Russia have the Crimea, because both Russia and Obama were cia assets. So the false claim that Taiwan is like the Crimea is for those who have no comprehension of how deep the cia control of things really is. Hillary Clinton is a Rothschild girl, and it would have been interesting to find out what would Hillary have done (which is an academic question), would she have fought cia Putin, Rothschild and the cia are on the same Oligarch team, however there is turf fighting between these two rival mafias. The Rockefellers have their mafia allied with Kissinger (Both are big into Big Pharma and promoting the clot shot). Netanyahu and the jewish far Reichers have their own mafia (bennett,etc; and are closely allied with the cia projects). These are battling it out in a friendly match of who controls the globe.

Promoting cia putinism in Europe, the Baltic, and the Caucasus is not much different than promoting trump cia-ism in China. In fact because there are no real powerful defenders of the Europe from putin, except maybe the Rothschilds (on some good day) or another other old group like the European Monarchies, thus promoting putinism in Europe (ie:Ukraine, Baltic, Eastern Europe, and Caucasus) is worse than promoting trumpism in China. China can atleast defend themselves. The common people of the former SSRs are nearly defenseless against the cia.

Releasing cia putin onto Europe for China's interest, then complaining about cia trump is not a good look for China.

Europe is weak against Putinism that I agree with and their civilization is in geninue danger from an eventual Putinism if he breaks their Resolve in Ukraine it is allover imho

 

[Battlion25]

Europe is weak against Putinism that I agree with and their civilization is in geninue danger from an eventual Putinism if he breaks their Resolve in Ukraine it is allover imho

Putin needs that ground in Ukraine to use it as intimidation tactics where all the neighbouring countries and the smaller fiefdoms will all eventually be forced to break ranks and submit to putin or face the same music because majority of them will assume this if Ukraine gets dispatched right in front of their eyes everyone will question his own security

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

Biden - Won't accept any Red lines

Putin - Ok. now I give Green light to my troops