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Best fighter jet in the future?

Best fighter jet in the future

  • f-22 Raptor (USA)

    Votes: 59 34.9%
  • f-35 II (USA)

    Votes: 15 8.9%
  • Sukhoi su-35BM (Russia)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Saab jas 39 Gripen (Sweden)

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • F-16E/F (USA)

    Votes: 4 2.4%
  • Dassault Rafale (France)

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • F/A 18 E/F Super Hornet (USA)

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Mig-35 (Russia)

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Sukhoi T-50 PAK FA (Russia)

    Votes: 83 49.1%
  • Eurofighter Typhoon (UK,Germany,Italy)

    Votes: 3 1.8%

  • Total voters
    169
  • Poll closed .
You are talking about the AL 41 Engines which has the said thurst and is on the PAK-FA prototype and Su 35BM, both, Su 35BM and PAK-FA will have Saturn 117S engines which will have a thurst of 175kN with afterburners. This is currently under development...
Here official Sukhoi brochure:

117c.jpg


117S engine:

dry thrust - 8,800 kg (86.2 kN)
afterburner thrust - 14,000 kg (137.2 kN)
special mode thrust - 14,500 kg (142.1 kN)
 
Here official Sukhoi brochure:

117c.jpg


117S engine:

dry thrust - 8,800 kg (86.2 kN)
afterburner thrust - 14,000 kg (137.2 kN)
special mode thrust - 14,500 kg (142.1 kN)

My mistake, as I got mixed up bad with the names, It seems that the PAK-FA is current undergoing flight trials with the said engines but the original operational rather, will have the extended version of the same engine with min of 175 kN of thurst which is a greatly modified version of the 117S engines.. As of now you are correct about the engines.. :hang2:
 
Here official Sukhoi brochure:

117c.jpg


117S engine:

dry thrust - 8,800 kg (86.2 kN)
afterburner thrust - 14,000 kg (137.2 kN)
special mode thrust - 14,500 kg (142.1 kN)

PAK FA is flying with a derivate of a engine not the originally planned one.. as per there specs they need 170+ Kn for super cruise and they will install that engine..
 
PAK FA is flying with a derivate of a engine not the originally planned one.. as per there specs they need 170+ Kn for super cruise and they will install that engine..

It's not yet been listed out as to what would be the super cruise capability of the engine but just the imormation about the total afterburning thurst.... And that is what they claim of it being upto 175 kN..
 
you might wanna tell this to all the dead soldiers in Vietnam that were lost because their M16 jammed !!!!!

or perhaps all the F4 pilots that died because their phantom had no gun !!!

:coffee:
Even without gun F-4 was best fighter in the world. By the way first MiG-21 models also had not gun.
 
Shouldn't UCAV's be a contender too. But clearly here PAK-FA wins, even before its inducted, that sums it up.
 
How is PAK FA ahead of f-22 Raptor? Really? USA produces the best hardware in the world!

PAK-FA is not ahead of F 22 Raptor as of now but in future when it's fully developed and is incorporated with all the avionics then it would be... F22 Raptor without any doubts is the best so far in the present world but it's superiority will be questionable once PAK-FA rolls out... It's still unclear as all the data about it's capability is held secret and is not out publicly but so far whatever is known points at the said way.... At least FGFA for sure will match and beat Raptor's capabilities by then as the Indian FGFA would be of a different configuration than that of the PAK-FA and will be a 2 pilot jet with multinational avionics package in it.... fingers crossed... Im not against the Raptor rather Im just supporting the reality which is not a myth and is soon going to be revealed....
 
Even without gun F-4 was best fighter in the world. By the way first MiG-21 models also had not gun.

I don't want to go to the past, but even with F4s US couldn't win the war and had to withdraw shamefully from Vietnam.. It's not the weapons always that decides the fate of war, but the tactics play a major role.... It's not about who makes the best but what is the best out here..... So let's stick to that.... Raptor is unmatched now but it's fate is doubtful in future... As the technology is no more with one nation and everybody is thriving to make their own.... Russia and India are upto PAK-FA (for Russia) and FGFA (for India)... More nations to follow...
 
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Shouldn't UCAV's be a contender too. But clearly here PAK-FA wins, even before its inducted, that sums it up.

Well, the future of war is UCAVs itself but it's not advisable to add that as a contender in this thread as still the world needs a lot to attain the superiority over the technology in making UCAVs the prime combatant... Still that's the future without any doubts... Manned jets are going to be there for another 2 dacads or more...
 
what is the logical difference between
F/A 18 E/F Super Hornet & Sukhoi T-50 PAK FA ...
 
what is the logical difference between
F/A 18 E/F Super Hornet & Sukhoi T-50 PAK FA ...

There are only two major differences between the said two jets that is, The element of Stealth and the ability to Supercruise and both these features are going to be present in PAK-FA.... The speed is also a matter of concern.....
 
why is everyone forgetting Slient Eagle and FA-XX?????
 

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