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Battling the monster of sectarianism

By Editorial
Published: May 20, 2012

The Council of Islamic Ideology (CII), the constitutional body on the Islamic status of the country’s laws, seeks to organise a movement against the sweeping threat of sectarian violence in the country. This follows the blowback to the killings of Shias in Karachi and elsewhere which have of late been followed by targeted killings of prominent Deobandi clerics. Since the CII is being chaired by a well-known Deobandi leader of the JUI-F, a wide spectrum of religio-political parties have agreed to attend the meeting devoted to roll back sectarianism and, in particular, the tit-for-tat killings that one has seen in recent years.

According to Qazi Hussain Ahmed, former chief of the Jamaat-e-Islami, nearly 40 religious leaders will attend the conference. He has made it clear that there is no target entity in front of the session: it will not be opposed to the Defence of Pakistan Council headed by the Jamaatud Dawa and the foremost self-declared sectarian “tanzeem”, Sipah-e-Sahaba with a merely changed name, Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat. It will be titled ‘Ummah Unity and Islamic Solidarity’ and it will address concerns arising out of the incidence of sectarian killings in Balochistan, Gilgit-Baltistan, Karachi and some tribal agencies. According to the former JI chief, “religious scholars will try to extinguish the fire of sectarianism and save innocent lives”. :blah::blah:

Welcome as the conference is in this environment of helplessness, the dice are loaded against it if you look at the record of past such efforts. Every year, clerics of all denominations get together before the onset of Muharram to vow peace within Pakistan, but usually to little avail. In fact, the last time such a meeting was held in Lahore it ended with more conflict; and the convening authority, the well-meaning PML-N government, became the target of vituperative attacks from both the brawling sides. Will the clerics succeed this time? When the CII was headed by a non-clerical scholar, it made no headway. Perhaps, this time the more powerful elements from the JUI-F and the grand Deobandi consensus will achieve something.

A fact recognised by all in Pakistan is that the people of the country are not sectarian-minded. Before jihad took hold of Pakistan and extremist clerics became threatening, there was considerable harmony between the sects. Muharram was not the season of sectarian violence and mayhem. Today, the world understands that the intensification of the sectarian feeling among the clerics is actually a result of a war relocated from Pakistan’s neighbourhood in the Gulf. And the wheels of this evil war are anointed with generous funding which goes into seminaries that teach hatred rather than peace. :devil: Will the Ummah conference succeed in persuading the various clerical formations to give up violence against one another? We hope that it will not end routinely by calling on the government to take steps that we all know it has lost the capacity to take.

Terrorist organisations, like the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, will take a lot of persuasion by the elders who will gather in Islamabad under the aegis of the CII. The killers have been at it for the past several decades; and Qazi Hussain Ahmad knows it better than anyone else. His efforts to prevent violence against the diplomats of Iran in the 1990s had borne no fruit. His successor, Dr Munawar Hasan, is also wedded to the anti-sectarian creed of the founder of the Jamaat and should be seen, in this context, as a positive force for the achievement of the group’s objective. We know that the JUI chief, Maulana Fazlur Rehman, too, holds moderate views and has not paid heed to the viciously sectarian groups that arose in Jhang and nearby districts of Punjab in the mid-1980s, not a little encouraged by then military ruler General Ziaul Haq.

The truth is that the genie of sectarianism got out of its bottle in the Middle East and hopefully will be bottled there in some future time and at the risk of some states disappearing from the scene. But in Pakistan, the genie is out and wreaking havoc because of the declining writ of the state which started declining over a quarter century ago when Pakistan embraced proxy jihad and used religious fanatics as cannon fodder. :angry:

Published in The Express Tribune, May 20th, 2012.
 
Ban Jamat e Non-Islami and some Iran_B's and we wont have any more sectarianism!

Take a lesson from Bangladesh!
I have seen Sunni seminaries teacher hate..
But nothing beats Iran funded Ayatollahs!

The fruits have already been tasted in Iraq and now Iran want to repeat the Iraq experiment in Pakistan.
 
so many forces are behind this genie. These pressure groups are behind the fanatic, and have receiving billion petro riyal for their loyality. They use to go to KING to get directions.
ISI is 200% involve in sectarianism in Pakistan since zia period
 
sectarianism is because of the misrule of majority Sunnis. Slowly the religious zealots from majority community is elbowing every other out, starting with minority religion (hindu, christian) and then smaller sects in their own religion (ahmadi) and then larger sects within their own religino (shia). Slowly these people are spreading like a cancer which will devour pakistan soon.
 
sectarianism is because of the misrule of majority Sunnis. Slowly the religious zealots from majority community is elbowing every other out, starting with minority religion (hindu, christian) and then smaller sects in their own religion (ahmadi) and then larger sects within their own religino (shia). Slowly these people are spreading like a cancer which will devour pakistan soon.

Pakistan is ruled a good deal time by shias and the current president is also shia.
 
Pakistan is ruled a good deal time by shias and the current president is also shia.
doesnt matter, tamil nadu is ruled by a brahmin, but she follows anti brahmin plicies.
but if you look at it any pm/prez will be unable to stop the tide of islamic rebellion done by mullah as shown by shia killing of GB, killing of taseer and the other guy for blas, forced marriage, ahmadi muslim mosque bombing etc.

Pakistan is ruled a good deal time by shias and the current president is also shia.


Don bhaiyya, aap mere hi peeche kyon kar rahe hain
 
doesnt matter, tamil nadu is ruled by a brahmin, but she follows anti brahmin plicies.

How is it possoble? she must not be a brahmin.

but if you look at it any pm/prez will be unable to stop the tide of islamic rebellion done by mullah as shown by shia killing of GB, killing of taseer and the other guy for blas, forced marriage, ahmadi muslim mosque bombing etc.

Then don't blame general sunnis and also keep in mind if shias are killed then sunnis are also killed in bomb blasts.


Don bhaiyya, aap mere hi peeche kyon kar rahe hain

Want to complete my 2000 posts today, you are easy target. :D
 
How is it possoble? she must not be a brahmin.



Then don't blame general sunnis and also keep in mind if shias are killed then sunnis are also killed in bomb blasts.




Want to complete my 2000 posts today, you are easy target. :D
1. PLease read about J Jayalalithaa
2. sunnis being killed by their own people (terrorists) is different from sunnis(majority) targetting shias (minority)
3. glad i can be of help.
 
Ban Jamat e Non-Islami and some Iran_B's and we wont have any more sectarianism!

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I am a Sunni origins from Pakistan living in UK. I have openly stated I do not approve of a theocratic state nor a monarchy as in Iran or Saudi. I do not believe in being pro Shia or pro Sunni but I am pro Muslim and pro Pakistan.

However I have learned that I can disagree with Iranians without them getting personal but unfortunately the Arabs, a few Parabians and confused individuals like you seem to think that being anti American and being critical of corrupt leaders who are pro American whether they be Arab or Pakistan means that I am somehow pro Iranian shows more about your intellectual prowess and educational attainment than any judgement that you may make of me
 
sectarianism is because of the misrule of majority Sunnis. Slowly the religious zealots from majority community is elbowing every other out, starting with minority religion (hindu, christian) and then smaller sects in their own religion (ahmadi) and then larger sects within their own religino (shia). Slowly these people are spreading like a cancer which will devour pakistan soon.

If you have bothered reading the article Pakistan is a country where people dont have sectarian mind set , we really dont give a crap who is shia or sunni ... its extremists from both sects trying to recruit people , there are countries supporting and encouriging this hatred.

=Aryan_B;2948748]I am pro Muslim and pro Pakistan.

Only if we can place pakistan in the first place instead of religion that will literally change the country and this will push these conspirators to pack and relocate to another region like somalia or may be timbaktu
 
I hope we can get something good out of it. Islamic Ideology Council should be headed by a neutral guy, and it should be given some authority, like in the blasphemy law issue, its recommendations were not acted upon by the government.
 
I am a Sunni origins from Pakistan living in UK. I have openly stated I do not approve of a theocratic state nor a monarchy as in Iran or Saudi. I do not believe in being pro Shia or pro Sunni but I am pro Muslim and pro Pakistan.
You're going to have to choose what you value most, Aryan_B. Both the Taliban and the best Western analysts agree: sharia law and democracy which holds power within constitutional limits are incompatible.
 
Take all the Shia and Sunni belligerent extremist and put them in a Gladiator Pit and let them kill each other. Would be fun to watch the show. These extremist are most dishonourable people because they do not do the fighting themselves but use other peoples children like cowards and brainwash the most vulnerable youth.

You're going to have to choose what you value most, Aryan_B. Both the Taliban and the best Western analysts agree: sharia law and democracy which holds power within constitutional limits are incompatible.


Your idea of Democracy is flawed and look what is it doing to the Western World. The US and Europe are going broke thanks to your version of Democracy. So spare Pakistan your concept of Democracy. We are better off without it. Give me a good honest benign Dictator any day than a democratically elected corrupt politician like Zardari.
 
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